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  zomard100

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Joined: 11/16/11
Posts: 232

11/15/12 4:24:51 AM#21
I saw today cartel market, it is great for us subscribers and for f2p players i don't really care.  Servers are merged and  full and i hope we don't  get with f2p option troll invasion on general chat. SWTOR is best mmo on the market and with new patch it will shine for another year. I have blast in this game like never before and EU comunity is awesome and always ready to help. Tried on US server but there is a different story, it looks that game is much more popular in Europe and players are much more polite
  Elminster

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Joined: 6/19/04
Posts: 24

11/15/12 4:29:37 AM#22

Basically what they have done here, is what what companies like Turbine have done, and that is to take a franchise like Star Wars, make it a f2p game and added a cash store, i.e. the cartel shop, and added a reward system for those who remain subscribers, i.e. te mothly alottment of cartel coins. Turbine has a couple of games, DDO and LOTRO that are fairly successful and they follow this model.

Personally, I believe, and correctly so, that it was only going to be a matter of time before SWTOR went f2p. This is going to be a good thing for SWTOR, because it will allow people who wanted to play initially to experiance what the game has to offer, without the pressure of making a commitment. 

  ImperialSun

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Joined: 9/05/12
Posts: 70

11/15/12 7:47:50 AM#23
Originally posted by Elminster

Basically what they have done here, is what what companies like Turbine have done, and that is to take a franchise like Star Wars, make it a f2p game and added a cash store, i.e. the cartel shop, and added a reward system for those who remain subscribers, i.e. te mothly alottment of cartel coins. Turbine has a couple of games, DDO and LOTRO that are fairly successful and they follow this model.

Personally, I believe, and correctly so, that it was only going to be a matter of time before SWTOR went f2p. This is going to be a good thing for SWTOR, because it will allow people who wanted to play initially to experiance what the game has to offer, without the pressure of making a commitment. 

I concur.

Driz

  erictlewis

Hard Core Member

Joined: 11/08/08
Posts: 2943

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results.

11/15/12 7:50:44 AM#24
I look at the current freemium model, as I will not call it free to play, and I have to wonder if sto lost a ferengi some where as this sure looks like a ferengi running a business as it sure applies to the ferengi rules of business.
  erictlewis

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Joined: 11/08/08
Posts: 2943

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results.

11/15/12 7:53:59 AM#25
Originally posted by Elminster

Basically what they have done here, is what what companies like Turbine have done, and that is to take a franchise like Star Wars, make it a f2p game and added a cash store, i.e. the cartel shop, and added a reward system for those who remain subscribers, i.e. te mothly alottment of cartel coins. Turbine has a couple of games, DDO and LOTRO that are fairly successful and they follow this model.

Personally, I believe, and correctly so, that it was only going to be a matter of time before SWTOR went f2p. This is going to be a good thing for SWTOR, because it will allow people who wanted to play initially to experiance what the game has to offer, without the pressure of making a commitment. 

What they have done is put a bunch of limitations on the game with hopes that folks will sub up,as the cost of free to play is to hight.

Sure folks stayed with lotro, I gave up on the game after it went free to play.  Somewhere on brandywine server in the town of Bree is my lore master sitting there begging for alms.

I would be tome folks will play it and not pay a dime, but for those who really want to play the game they will be forced to sub, or pay a ton in unlocks.

 

  Sigilaea

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/19/07
Posts: 302

11/15/12 7:57:54 AM#26
The problem with all of the "f2p" threads is that the subscription model they use doesn't matter. The game is bad, and the game needs to be fixed, not how people pay for it.
  Ahnog

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/18/05
Posts: 178

11/15/12 8:01:04 AM#27

Many of you are woefully ignorant of how SWTOR's f2p will work. I don't think some of you have heard of preferred status and how that removes many of the limitations you are complaining about. How does one get preferred status. Simple, be a former subscriber, or buy any amount of cartel coins.

In spite of the haters, SWTOR is a great game, and  F2P is going to be good for it.

Ahnog

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  mikahr

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/30/07
Posts: 1110

11/15/12 8:10:35 AM#28
Originally posted by Sigilaea
The problem with all of the "f2p" threads is that the subscription model they use doesn't matter. The game is bad, and the game needs to be fixed, not how people pay for it.

Thats what amuses many people.

Even Hickman (whatever) admitted game is not worth the money - they didnt change anything but HOW are people supposed to give them money - how did they conclude people will give them money now since reasons people voted with their wallets are still there, getting even worse.

That kind of things happen when you are grasping for straws or have some agenda.

  rwyan

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/24/03
Posts: 347

11/15/12 8:38:44 AM#29

Any game making the F2P switch... its only a temporary solution.  If players aren't sticking around paying $15/month, then whose to say they'll spend money on a cash shop.  Yeah, you may enforce restrictions or design UI elements/gameplay mechanics to encourage transactions... but if I am not having fun, why would I even bother playing your game to begin with?

 

The sick thing is, is that I've read articles where developers have admitted the success of their F2P models rely on people who spend hundreds of dollars on their game a month.... not the players who spend nothing or just a few dollars here and there (because only a very small percentage of active players actually buy anything!) 

 

Create a game that is fun, engaging, and very enjoyable.... then I will play (I will probably even sub!)

Sell additional content that will further improve my enjoyment.... then I will buy stuff from the cash shop.

 

 

  Zinzan

Elite Member

Joined: 3/03/06
Posts: 1227

11/15/12 8:48:49 AM#30
Originally posted by Elminster

Basically what they have done here, is what what companies like Turbine have done, and that is to take a franchise like Star Wars, make it a f2p game and added a cash store, i.e. the cartel shop, and added a reward system for those who remain subscribers, i.e. te mothly alottment of cartel coins. Turbine has a couple of games, DDO and LOTRO that are fairly successful and they follow this model.

Personally, I believe, and correctly so, that it was only going to be a matter of time before SWTOR went f2p. This is going to be a good thing for SWTOR, because it will allow people who wanted to play initially to experiance what the game has to offer, without the pressure of making a commitment. 

I agree completely, but what irks me is they are essentially marketting an unlimited free trial as something it's not.

It's simply not F2P as most of the content is extremely limited or locked out completely. Thing is, they are not alone in this approach (most of the big boys are doing it now) and it bugs me as it taints true F2P games and might make players think twice before trying those (often indie) games.

  Nonderyon

Advanced Member

Joined: 11/30/07
Posts: 73

11/15/12 8:56:20 AM#31
SWTOR has to take sample from STO (Star Trek online), its a good f2p model.
  Deewe

Novice Member

Joined: 5/02/08
Posts: 1973

 
11/15/12 4:57:20 PM#32
Originally posted by Nonderyon
SWTOR has to take sample from STO (Star Trek online), its a good f2p model.

Not sure about that.

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