Originally posted by vonryan123

Bill Love most of what you write and MMORPGFTW. BUT! after reading that I'm kinda lost on what game your playing.

 

It's not written by Bill, it's written by Mike.  I have no idea why they make it confusing by never letting the authors post their own articles.

Originally posted by MMOGamer71

To celebrate F2P EA is having 12 hours of downtime on the F2P release date.

 

http://www.swtor.com/blog/scheduled-maintenance-game-update-1.5-november-15th-2012

The common thing in every swtor thread is there is a bunch of complaints and humor to make fun of the game. Look at the MMO fanbase :).

Originally posted by protodoxa
Uhm I read this article expecting to roll my eyes, but I am pleased to learn the Cartel Market is tied to the ingame economy. How does this work exactly? I am not sure I could stomach the game still with all the "story" but I like it when f2p choses this kind of economic implementation of the cash shop currency, so I'll probably check it out if only to see how it works in SWTOR, while skipping as much of the "story" as possible.

When you purchase anything from the in-game store, be it some sort of item or unlock it actually generates an item for you to consume. This item can be traded amongst other players via person-to-person trades or the auction house. There is a short cooldown before you can trade the item, though. This is implemented as a security measure.

Originally posted by MadDemon64

Originally posted by MMOGamer71

"SWTOR is a Solid Game"

 

What game are you talking about Mike?

It's a solid game.  It just fails as an MMO.

Now, if SWTOR had been released as a single player game, I am pretty sure many of the complaints people have about it would disappear.

Well if it was a single player game and they would have made the companion system better, like it was in Mass Effect 2 or Dragon Age Origins, I think it would have been a really good game.

But as you say, it fails as an MMO. Both because of the solo/instanced feel of it but also because they had to cut corner because it was supposed to be an MMO. So basically it's a lose-lose.

That being said I will not play the game when it goes F2P. There are single player games which are better than it and there are MMORPGs which are better aswell, so there is no real reason for me to play it. And although I like the SW setting I wont play a game just because of it. It has to be worth my time as well and SW:TOR is simply not good enough.

Originally posted by Jonoku

Originally posted by MMOGamer71

To celebrate F2P EA is having 12 hours of downtime on the F2P release date.

 

http://www.swtor.com/blog/scheduled-maintenance-game-update-1.5-november-15th-2012

The common thing in every swtor thread is there is a bunch of complaints and humor to make fun of the game. Look at the MMO fanbase :).

The point is that it makes no sense to push F2P when your servers are going to be down on the F2P release date which is clearly zero insight on the developers part. 

Ironically this is why this game is F2P.

I will check it out on the 16th and pick up my story line again barring the action bar restrictions. My characters are in the 30's and if I can make it work with 2 action bars I will give it a go.  If not I will uninstall and never look back. 

I got to say when I read "a solid game" I just about fell in the floor.  WE obvouly not played the same game.

As far as free story yest, but free to play players only get 2 character slots.  Not to mention all the roadblocks they put in the way.  It is not even worth coming back with my level 50's as they all had purple gear, guessing they will be naked now.

Solid no,  shallow yes.

Originally posted by MMOGamer71

"SWTOR is a Solid Game"

 

What game are you talking about Mike?

It's a solid game. As in when you pick it up and throw it out the window on fire it's pretty solid. But no it's not that great to play.

This F2P model looks like a possibility though. It might almost be as exciting a player-done economy as SWG was. No, actually now that I think about it, it won't be like SWG's economy at all.

Back to Planetside 2 while taking a 'wait-and-see' approach to SWTOR (again).

Originally posted by achesoma
If I hear one more time that the "sub-fee" was the problem players had with SWTOR I'm gonna punch a kitten in the face.  Seriously, that is the biggest bunch of BS.  How about starting with something like game performance?  Is that improved?  I seemed to have an awful lot of lag and drop in fps for game that's so heavily instanced. 

Sub-fee was the problem with SWTOR.  Now....could you PM me photos of the punched kitten..cause I don't believe you. : )

Originally posted by MMOGamer71

Originally posted by Jonoku

Originally posted by MMOGamer71

To celebrate F2P EA is having 12 hours of downtime on the F2P release date.

 

http://www.swtor.com/blog/scheduled-maintenance-game-update-1.5-november-15th-2012

The common thing in every swtor thread is there is a bunch of complaints and humor to make fun of the game. Look at the MMO fanbase :).

The point is that it makes no sense to push F2P when your servers are going to be down on the F2P release date which is clearly zero insight on the developers part. 

Ironically this is why this game is F2P.

While I love the game, their implimentation of FTP is about how they've run the game since it first went live, a running joke.

People will log on, find out they have to play the game with their left nut in a vice, and go back to their OTHER MMO. I mean seriously, you have to PAY for your quick slots? REALLY? When this launch fails, they should fire the guy who stood up at the meeting and laid out this plan, because he has absolutely no clue how to make money. from a paying public.

Maybe they think because their are no other Star Wars games out there that people will play regardless of the restrictions. Obviously they failed to learn the lesson they should have learned which made them HAVE to go to FTP in the first place.

sweet i can finally finish my storyline.

Its a decent game,it was missing soul,  but some fun could be had.

Originally posted by achesoma
If I hear one more time that the "sub-fee" was the problem players had with SWTOR I'm gonna punch a kitten in the face.  Seriously, that is the biggest bunch of BS.  How about starting with something like game performance?  Is that improved?  I seemed to have an awful lot of lag and drop in fps for game that's so heavily instanced. 

yeah but i bet you if they reduced it to $5 a month shitloads of peeps would sub..i know i would..has everyone has said before this game is not worth $15 a month or £8.99 in uk money.its an ok game but its certainly not worth $15.Rift is a way better game than this and if you sub for a yr you get that for £70+ the expnsion for free.works out at about £4 a month for me.

Originally posted by MikeB

Originally posted by protodoxa
Uhm I read this article expecting to roll my eyes, but I am pleased to learn the Cartel Market is tied to the ingame economy. How does this work exactly? I am not sure I could stomach the game still with all the "story" but I like it when f2p choses this kind of economic implementation of the cash shop currency, so I'll probably check it out if only to see how it works in SWTOR, while skipping as much of the "story" as possible.

When you purchase anything from the in-game store, be it some sort of item or unlock it actually generates an item for you to consume. This item can be traded amongst other players via person-to-person trades or the auction house. There is a short cooldown before you can trade the item, though. This is implemented as a security measure.

 

All right; I might give it a spin by the end of the week, although it might have to stand in line behind EQ2 and GW2. I also looked at the website for how this affects the legacy system, and no information was immediately forthcoming. I'll check the f2p matrix now lol...

Final straw for this game. Don´t think it will work, unless they announce some completely NEW game features tomorrow too.

Where are the mini games? Where are planet revamps of these static, lifeless worlds? Where is a real JTL type space sim for god´s sake? What´s with the slow, zero physics speeders? What´s with the 2006 graphics and blurry textures and exhaustion zones?

Now it´s the same ol´ same ol´ things nobody was overly excited in the first place. Plus a cash shop tacked on.

I say "meh". I´ll look again if they announce an expansion, some day, if ever.

Originally posted by Psychow
Is this a first for UI limitations on a F2P MMO?

i think so..that is really poor start for a ftp game..does'nt fill you with confidence

The only good about this failed project is that more people are waking up to what a MMO should be... and shouldn't.

Solid game? C'mon now...