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11/13/12 11:25:21 PM#41
Originally posted by mikuniman
no, not mad very disapointed in this direction though, and apparently so are many others. Last I checked there were over 6k replies and 120+ pages of a viral forum topic going on in the gw2 forums. So much for getting people pumped up for the new patch, way to go Anet.

If a thread pops up that has a whiff of Ascended-armour-gate it gets merged into that one ginormous thread.

  muffins89

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OP  11/13/12 11:28:41 PM#42
Originally posted by NBlitz
Originally posted by mikuniman
no, not mad very disapointed in this direction though, and apparently so are many others. Last I checked there were over 6k replies and 120+ pages of a viral forum topic going on in the gw2 forums. So much for getting people pumped up for the new patch, way to go Anet.

If a thread pops up that has a whiff of Ascended-armour-gate it gets merged into that one ginormous thread.

Rofl.  i got banned for creating 3 or 4 different topics on the subject.  *sadface*.  i kinda deserved it though. 

I think the prostitute mod corrupted your game files man. -elhefen

  Jyiiga

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11/13/12 11:29:58 PM#43
Originally posted by Mavek

Anyone who frequents this site should have known this would hap[pen eventually.  Its what the population wants.  This feature will be what separates GW2 from becoming a niche game in the future to becoming something with a much bigger consistent userbase.

 

You might be unhappy but you represent a small population of the GW2 playerbase and Arenanet knows that.  This is why they are adding a carrot.

 

I'mma call BS on that one. If this were the case that thread on the official forums would't have seen this kinda momentum in a single day. There is more GW1 population in this game thatn WOW population and the GW1 players came from a game with horizonal gear progression. 

  Vannor

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11/13/12 11:32:46 PM#44
Things change. Those who embrace it live happier lives.
  FrodoFragins

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11/13/12 11:33:33 PM#45

This change doesn't sound near close enough to getting me back to grinding dungeons in the game.  Hopefully this change brings people back, but it's not near enough to get me to return.  They need D3 level fixes for me to return for gear. 

  Tiller

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11/13/12 11:34:21 PM#46

I could be mad, but i'm not . I mean I have all exotic armor weapons and jewelry, I got a full wurm set of runes in my transmuted Duelist Berserker gear ect, and plenty of gold. All I've been doing with rares is puling ecto out of them if they were worth less then 20 silver, and selling or forging any exotics I picked up.

Besides farming, and trolling dragons It's gotten stale with nothing else to work for. Sure I can do dungeons, and i do for fun with my guild.  But I already got the gear skin I want, so the tokens are just chilling in my bank. I do WvWvW, but as a thief it' s always the same, catch invader dood try'n to raid our supply camp, kill them/ or follow huge raid zerg around and take out anything red or aquire anything not ours. It's fun as hell, but after a few hours I'm off to find something else to do. I've been slowly picking off the map, at 82% now, but that gets mind numbing after 5 hours.

So, for me obtaining new stuff is in fact a reason for me to play. New areas are cool, but I like new gear and stuff in those areas, so you will hear no real complaints from me.


SWG pre-cu vet, elder Jedi, elder BH -Bloodfin

  Whitebeards

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11/13/12 11:35:12 PM#47
Originally posted by FrodoFragins

This change doesn't sound near close enough to getting me back to grinding dungeons in the game.  Hopefully this change brings people back, but it's not near enough to get me to return.  They need D3 level fixes for me to return for gear. 

It is just a beginning. Better to start small no? i am back playing though as i am excited to see what progression they will add in future. 

  Drakynn

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11/13/12 11:35:45 PM#48

Yes I am angry because no other MMORPG has ever changed course in development to cater to their audience and added different stuff than was in the original design plan before!!!I say hanging is to good for them!!!!

 

But in all sereriousness this change neither excites nor disappoints me.

  Jyiiga

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11/13/12 11:36:48 PM#49
Originally posted by Vannor
Things change. Those who embrace it live happier lives.

I'm pretty sure the bitchers and whiners typically get the most attention. Squeaky wheel gets the grease and all that. If you sit around like sheep then yeah, no ones gonna give two cents what you think. 

Stir up a crap storm, end up on the front page of a bunch of stupid sites on day one.. By the end of the week your in an article on Forbes.com and guess what.. That kinda crap is a PR nightmare. 

They acted pretty quickly to reverse and soothe the issues they had with the Halloween event. The Black Lion Chests fiasco.. That turned into them quickly coding in a way to use the junk items to make more chests with higher drop rates. 

If they get enough pushback from this.. they probably won't stop with this first wave of items, but they might really think hard about the next phase. 

  Betakodo

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11/13/12 11:36:52 PM#50
Lied and hyped. A lot of the hype was lies as well. Hopefully they make a expansion that you have to pay for, by then hopefully even less people be cured of their blindness and justice will be served.
  muffins89

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OP  11/13/12 11:36:53 PM#51
Originally posted by Jyiiga
Originally posted by Mavek

Anyone who frequents this site should have known this would hap[pen eventually.  Its what the population wants.  This feature will be what separates GW2 from becoming a niche game in the future to becoming something with a much bigger consistent userbase.

 

You might be unhappy but you represent a small population of the GW2 playerbase and Arenanet knows that.  This is why they are adding a carrot.

 

I'mma call BS on that one. If this were the case that thread on the official forums would't have seen this kinda momentum in a single day.

 

 

There is more GW1 population in this game thatn WOW population and the GW1 players came from a game with horizonal gear progression. 

wether youre right or wrong.  it certainly seems Anet thinks there is more WoW population that gw1 population.

I think the prostitute mod corrupted your game files man. -elhefen

  Torvaldr

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11/13/12 11:37:44 PM#52
Originally posted by jpnz

Not sure why some posters can't understand that some people get upset if they are lied to.

This isn't rocket science.

I'm not sure why some posters can't understand that gamers get upset when the temperature changes, the sun comes, the sun goes down, it gets cold, it gets hot.

This isn't rocket science.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  SonicTHI

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11/13/12 11:38:57 PM#53


Originally posted by Whitebeards

Originally posted by GeezerGamer

Originally posted by SonicTHI  

Originally posted by saurus123

Originally posted by SonicTHI Deceived, betrayed, sad, angry... Probably my last non f2p MMO and my last MMO that i played "seriously". Fucking WoW threadmills.
yes becouse you must have ring with 5 power more     does this make you stronger in pve? no its like 2 more dmg in actual combat does this make you stronger in WvW? no becouse tactic wins in WvW   food gives you  +200 of stat, gives you 10% more critical dmg so why i see only about 5% of players using it? becouse it doesnt matter, yes you are a bit stronger but anyone can kill you even without it    
  I dont give 2 shits about the stats. Its about the principle. Its about lying to the core playerbase and trying to cater to a wider yet unstable and dumb audience. Gaming nowadays in a nutshell. ANET was one of the last studios that held true to their vision till they sold out.
No, ANET sold out quite some time ago. Who do you think is calling these shots right now? http://www.arena.net/press/ncsoft_acquires_arenanet
I wonder why no one mentiones this when good decisions are made. As if all the bad decision comes only from Ncsoft.

I know the relation and history of NC and ANET thank you very much. But it doesnt matter who s calling the shots. While it probably is NC (or nexon AFAIK now) it really doesnt matter. What matter is that those decisions were made and thus a lot of the core playerbase is now alienated and another game is becoming more like WoW. We all know how that ends.

  Tiller

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11/13/12 11:39:13 PM#54
Originally posted by muffins89
Originally posted by Jyiiga
Originally posted by Mavek

Anyone who frequents this site should have known this would hap[pen eventually.  Its what the population wants.  This feature will be what separates GW2 from becoming a niche game in the future to becoming something with a much bigger consistent userbase.

 

You might be unhappy but you represent a small population of the GW2 playerbase and Arenanet knows that.  This is why they are adding a carrot.

 

I'mma call BS on that one. If this were the case that thread on the official forums would't have seen this kinda momentum in a single day.

 

 

There is more GW1 population in this game thatn WOW population and the GW1 players came from a game with horizonal gear progression. 

wether youre right or wrong.  it certainly seems Anet thinks there is more WoW population that gw1 population.

idk, everyone in my guild all came from gw1 (they all played together) and none are really upset over it, or are gonna wait and see how it all plays out. Maybe only rational folks tend to look on the lighter side of this?


SWG pre-cu vet, elder Jedi, elder BH -Bloodfin

  Whitebeards

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11/13/12 11:39:27 PM#55
Originally posted by muffins89
Originally posted by Jyiiga
Originally posted by Mavek

Anyone who frequents this site should have known this would hap[pen eventually.  Its what the population wants.  This feature will be what separates GW2 from becoming a niche game in the future to becoming something with a much bigger consistent userbase.

 

You might be unhappy but you represent a small population of the GW2 playerbase and Arenanet knows that.  This is why they are adding a carrot.

 

I'mma call BS on that one. If this were the case that thread on the official forums would't have seen this kinda momentum in a single day.

 

 

There is more GW1 population in this game thatn WOW population and the GW1 players came from a game with horizonal gear progression. 

wether youre right or wrong.  it certainly seems Anet thinks there is more WoW population that gw1 population.

I believe that there is this 'silent majority' which people ignore who give their feedback directly to the game devs. These people don't visit forums but yet they have their say.

Anet has the real data and i am sure it has nothing to do with WOW players but on what side majority of feedback lies. I am pretty sure they got overwhelming feedback for adding gear progression and they even mentioned it in their article that they are doing it on basis of what players want.

I was one of those people who gave my feedback directly to Anet and supported gear progression.

  FrodoFragins

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11/13/12 11:40:53 PM#56
Originally posted by Whitebeards
Originally posted by FrodoFragins

This change doesn't sound near close enough to getting me back to grinding dungeons in the game.  Hopefully this change brings people back, but it's not near enough to get me to return.  They need D3 level fixes for me to return for gear. 

It is just a beginning. Better to start small no? i am back playing though as i am excited to see what progression they will add in future. 

It definitely makes sense to start small and I have no problem with it.  But if even this small step causes them to lose more players than return, it will be rough for ANet for a while.

  snapfusion

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11/13/12 11:43:19 PM#57
Originally posted by Jetrpg
Nope the game is very different, too much so. Mand mmo without item progression or support classes is a weak game.

I cant find anything different other then a more simplistic way to play an MMO, Im being honest.  Its really just an incredibly dumbed down version of MMO's which i didnt think was possible in this day and age.

  GeezerGamer

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It's a combination of Nightingale Armor with the Mod Truebound Deadric Armors

11/13/12 11:44:05 PM#58
Originally posted by Whitebeards
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by SonicTHI

 


Originally posted by saurus123

Originally posted by SonicTHI Deceived, betrayed, sad, angry... Probably my last non f2p MMO and my last MMO that i played "seriously". Fucking WoW threadmills.
yes becouse you must have ring with 5 power more

 

 

does this make you stronger in pve? no its like 2 more dmg in actual combat

does this make you stronger in WvW? no becouse tactic wins in WvW

 

food gives you  +200 of stat, gives you 10% more critical dmg so why i see only about 5% of players using it? becouse it doesnt matter, yes you are a bit stronger but anyone can kill you even without it

 

 


 

I dont give 2 shits about the stats. Its about the principle. Its about lying to the core playerbase and trying to cater to a wider yet unstable and dumb audience. Gaming nowadays in a nutshell. ANET was one of the last studios that held true to their vision till they sold out.

No, ANET sold out quite some time ago. Who do you think is calling these shots right now?

http://www.arena.net/press/ncsoft_acquires_arenanet

I wonder why no one mentiones this when good decisions are made. As if all the bad decision comes only from Ncsoft.

I'm just saying. I think ANET was given their autonomy for GW2 but with the stipulation that it turned a certain profit. Now that GW2 may not be bringing in as much bacon as NCSoft had hoped for, they are exerting their authority. Obviously, it's just speculation on my part, But I wouldn't be surprised.

I feel that the state of the genre is such that a total and complete failure is needed so it can be reborn anew.
I'm actually hoping this new generation of 8 button MMOs will make that happen.

  mmoguy43

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11/13/12 11:47:29 PM#59
The developer's vision for a game can be changed and patched just like everything else. That's why I never take what a dev says as complete, unchangeble truth but rather their current path.

Let's build the ultimate MMO 1 feature at a time
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/398555/page/1

  Whitebeards

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11/13/12 11:47:52 PM#60
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Whitebeards
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by SonicTHI

 


Originally posted by saurus123

Originally posted by SonicTHI Deceived, betrayed, sad, angry... Probably my last non f2p MMO and my last MMO that i played "seriously". Fucking WoW threadmills.
yes becouse you must have ring with 5 power more

 

 

does this make you stronger in pve? no its like 2 more dmg in actual combat

does this make you stronger in WvW? no becouse tactic wins in WvW

 

food gives you  +200 of stat, gives you 10% more critical dmg so why i see only about 5% of players using it? becouse it doesnt matter, yes you are a bit stronger but anyone can kill you even without it

 

 


 

I dont give 2 shits about the stats. Its about the principle. Its about lying to the core playerbase and trying to cater to a wider yet unstable and dumb audience. Gaming nowadays in a nutshell. ANET was one of the last studios that held true to their vision till they sold out.

No, ANET sold out quite some time ago. Who do you think is calling these shots right now?

http://www.arena.net/press/ncsoft_acquires_arenanet

I wonder why no one mentiones this when good decisions are made. As if all the bad decision comes only from Ncsoft.

I'm just saying. I think ANET was given their autonomy for GW2 but with the stipulation that it turned a certain profit. Now that GW2 may not be bringing in as much bacon as NCSoft had hoped for, they are exerting their authority. Obviously, it's just speculation on my part, But I wouldn't be surprised.

I understand what you are saying but i think it is unfair to automaticaly assume that if it is  a bad decision it is NCSOFT and when it is good decisions it is 'Anet'. For all we know every decision comes from Ncsoft since they own Anet.

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