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The Pub at MMORPG.COM  » Dragons are overdone. What unique creatures would you use as the "main villain"?

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11/12/12 3:06:58 PM#81

1. Anime girls in a game with otherwise realistic graphics

2. Tax forms that are alive

3. Floor


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11/12/12 3:10:04 PM#82

Interesting topic. I too think that mmos could come up with more than dragons as main villans. Here is a short list for me:

  • Original sins: main villians based on greed, lust, envy, pride, glutton, wrath and sloth
  • Elements: Earth, fire air and water (think giant golem-like)
  • Bible based: Behemoth, Leviathan, Nephilim, Horsemen (conquest, war, famine and death), The First Beast and The Second Beast.
  • Aquatic origins: Kraken, Tiamat (not D&D) or Hydra
  • Final Fantasy summons: Names are fair game since they are not original. Just need to render their own interpretation.
  • Astrology based: Leo, Aquarius, Scorpio, etc.
  • Insect based: scarabs, scorpions, spiders

The base concept for the creatureless suggestions could be anything: birds, lions, apes, serpents, winged demons and such.

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11/12/12 3:20:21 PM#83
Dragons are the biggest, baddest things around... they will always be the end bosses.  Greek mythology could present some unique boss ideas, though.

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11/12/12 3:51:12 PM#84
Originally posted by Ozivois
Dragons are the biggest, baddest things around... they will always be the end bosses.  Greek mythology could present some unique boss ideas, though.

its cliche movie wise but havent seen it done in games too often or even done right, in my last post what i had goin in my head was hades trying to invade the human realm with his undead army, and your character is the "hero' that pushes him back to the underworld, taking down bosses up the army ranks till you take down the generals then cerberus and meet hades. a bit basic but if done right i think it would make a great greek mythology game.


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11/12/12 3:53:36 PM#85
Beholder or the Lesser known Illithid hives or an Aboleth. All are known for their scheming & manipulation.

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11/12/12 3:59:30 PM#86
Demons not a minor or lesser demon though but one of powerful stature

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11/12/12 4:58:21 PM#87
Originally posted by tofke
Originally posted by xAPOCx
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They could be the evil masterminds of the universe and you wouldn't even understand em!


Would they be ill tempered and have laser beams attached to there freakin heads?

Mm lasers makes em even more terifying!! Like dinosaurs with lasers and saddles! :o We're onto something! Let's create a new IP! To the SOE mobile!



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11/15/12 11:08:01 AM#88
Originally posted by Arcondo87
i too am sick of seeing dragons in ever y single mmo as UNBER LEET bosses...WE WANT SUMTHING DIFFRENT!

How about a spelling or grammer test?  That would be the ultimate boss!  99% of players would fail!

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11/15/12 11:18:34 AM#89

Tarrasque.  Kind of dragon like but not quite dragon.  Though it is neither good or evil it is a force of destruction.


I guess the genre of the game really determines the type of end bosses you should/could have.  Super Villians are fine.  They can come in all shapes, sizes and forms.  Pulling from D&D/Fantasy you have Ilitthid, Beholders, Lich's etc.


There are tons of Fantasy artists out there that can draw some crazy looking stuff.  All of it is game if you make your own world.

If you use "plz" because it is shorter than "please" I will use "no" because it is shorter than "yes."


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11/15/12 11:35:30 AM#90
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11/15/12 11:37:10 AM#91
Originally posted by JohnH2005

Tarrasque.  Kind of dragon like but not quite dragon.  Though it is neither good or evil it is a force of destruction.


I guess the genre of the game really determines the type of end bosses you should/could have.  Super Villians are fine.  They can come in all shapes, sizes and forms.  Pulling from D&D/Fantasy you have Ilitthid, Beholders, Lich's etc.


There are tons of Fantasy artists out there that can draw some crazy looking stuff.  All of it is game if you make your own world.


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11/15/12 11:40:10 AM#92
Originally posted by JohnH2005
Originally posted by Arcondo87
i too am sick of seeing dragons in ever y single mmo as UNBER LEET bosses...WE WANT SUMTHING DIFFRENT!

How about a spelling or grammer test?  That would be the ultimate boss!  99% of players would fail!

99%? I guess you're kind of right.


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11/15/12 11:40:35 AM#93
EAzilla. A giant predator that eats up everything and leaves a trail of huge horrible smelly turds along the way.


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11/15/12 11:42:05 AM#94
Originally posted by dreamsofwar
Giants, ogres, vampires, trolls (like the big ones in LOTR), wraiths, undead, chimeras, Medusa.

My thinking as well..   I like to see a better variety of mobs and bosses, instead of just reusing the same model with different colors..


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11/15/12 11:49:06 AM#95

A dragon by any other name is still a large pool of hit points and an apocolyptic attack.  If you want to design a unique main villain, then you need a unique question that is the foundation of your story.  Your villain is the embodiment of the wrong answer to this question.  I find that once I have the question, its answer and why it's the wrong answer, details like what it looks like or how it attacks or what it's fatal weakness is become easy to fill in.

If the central question of your story is "Who thinks they can possibly defeat my awesome might and take my treasure?", then your villain is going to end up behaving ike a dragon no matter what body you want to slap on it.


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11/15/12 11:51:39 AM#96
Dragons are not over-done until a game comes out where you can go out and tame them to fight for you and ride them freely as pets..

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11/23/12 10:11:05 PM#97

Did anyone mention "The Nothing". That's a scary opponent. You can't even hit it between the eyes. Video of reference.


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11/24/12 12:34:02 AM#98

Well, I think dragons still have their place.  An MMO has yet to really do them well, like others have said.


However, I wonder if a .. less high fantasy setting could work in an MMO.  Something like you have in a song of ice and fire.


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11/24/12 12:38:26 AM#99
Originally posted by fenistil
Originally posted by Krematory


I would add venture capitalists and investment bankers also though.


Add central bankers and I think you've got a winner. My genre blog.


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Who did wrong? The advertiser hired to sell the game or the consumer who put faith in advertising?

11/24/12 12:42:47 AM#100

Turns out, it's 'man'.


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