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  Vorthanion

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11/12/12 1:15:13 PM#141
Originally posted by Nitth

 


Originally posted by botrytis

Originally posted by deakon

Originally posted by bcbully Gg. Let the "gear grind" begin muhahahhh lmao.
Its better to have gear to grind for than just having the grind   Now if they could just add some progression to leveling beyond 40 the game might actually manage to keep my interest beyond a couple of hours a month (if that)
Sorry - now GW2 is just like EVERY other game out there. They caved to the hardcore whiners and not worrying about the casual player. That is sad.

 

It's not even that, Its logical sense in an rpg to have continual character progression.

Striving for statistical parity is nonsense in a rpg, May as well play a shooter.

The problem is that if you use ANet's original philosophy, these dungeons wouldn't be the only way to get these new armors and weapons.  So, they are essentially taking on the raid or die mantle if you want top gear.

 

It's not only ironic, but a definite shift in their design philosophy.

  bcbully

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11/12/12 1:17:06 PM#142
I wonder what ilevel Ascended gear is.

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  Deerhunter71

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11/12/12 1:17:20 PM#143
Originally posted by bcbully
Gg. Let the "gear grind" begin muhahahhh lmao.

LOL yup - the holy grail game where there is no gear grind....  Looks like they see how short sighted they were.....

Darkfall's grind is kill 150 mobs for X prowess. in other MMO's we call that themepark and stupid. In Darkfall it is called "sandbox" and a brilliant system. Go figure, lol......

  ShakyMo

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11/12/12 1:19:09 PM#144
I like the idea of a randomly generated dungeon in the vein of Torchlight.

What I think they really need though is.
1 names on in pvp, such a small change that will boost pvp rivalry and longevity a lot.
2 random invasion events, that trigger a server wide alarm. Like tabular rasa / rift but ramped up more with consequences for failure. E.g. one of the dragons sends their army to attack rata sum, if you don't fend them off its inaccessible for a week, or until players clear them out
3 some sort of reward / goal for consistent territory holding in WvW. Ideally some sort if darkness falls set up (which TESO is doing)
4 ways to earn cash in WvW so you're not forced into pve to pay for it.
5 guild housing, with a group crafting system to support it. Team based crafting would be a cool new feature.
6 competative pve leaderboards with titles. Whoever does the fastest run of a dungeon gets unique title and cosmetic gear associated with it. If someone else does it faster they get the title instead.
7 likewise with people with the top spvp rankings, unique cosmetic gear and titles you can wear in pve and WvW.
  bcbully

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11/12/12 1:20:46 PM#145
Originally posted by Deerhunter71
Originally posted by bcbully
Gg. Let the "gear grind" begin muhahahhh lmao.

LOL yup - the holy grail game where there is no gear grind....  Looks like they see how short sighted they were.....

I'm getting interested again. Let's see if we can get a damage meter in the next patch. 

DamonVile- Games built for disposable players are now apparently built by disposable employees.

  stealthbr

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11/12/12 1:24:26 PM#146
ROFL! I knew this would happen
  clumsytoes44

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11/12/12 1:29:27 PM#147
Lmao man I need a huge bag of popcorn for this wonderfull S-storm. I played GW1 for 7 year's with no problem because gear had very little effect imo, it was what skill's you had on your hotbar. And with over 400 skill's per class, there was alot of creativity to be had. Imo A-net's little french poodle isn't walking so strait with the release of GW2.
  nationalcity

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11/12/12 1:33:32 PM#148
 And so it begins, so much for just vanity items at endgame and no gear treadmill lol....
  MMOExposed

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11/12/12 1:37:08 PM#149

Lol sound like Anet want GW2 to be more like Rift. Lol.

notice all this stuff they doing around Rift's new Expansion release date. And Ascendant armor? Come on... Lol. Good job Trion. Hopefully Trion can take WvW idea like in GW2, and GW2 can take Zone Invasions and Raid dungeons like in Rift.

  Rimmersman

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11/12/12 1:42:30 PM#150
Originally posted by MMOExposed

Lol sound like Anet want GW2 to be more like Rift. Lol.

notice all this stuff they doing around Rift's new Expansion release date. And Ascendant armor? Come on... Lol. Good job Trion. Hopefully Trion can take WvW idea like in GW2, and GW2 can take Zone Invasions and Raid dungeons like in Rift.

Problem for ArenaNet is there are other MMO that do the treadmill item grind better.

  botrytis

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11/12/12 1:42:59 PM#151
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Deerhunter71
Originally posted by bcbully
Gg. Let the "gear grind" begin muhahahhh lmao.

LOL yup - the holy grail game where there is no gear grind....  Looks like they see how short sighted they were.....

I'm getting interested again. Let's see if we can get a damage meter in the next patch. 

Who needs a DPS meter - only those who epeen - look I DPS much better than you. Just remember, there is no healer besides you in this game.


"You can fool some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time."
Abraham Lincoln

  ShakyMo

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11/12/12 1:44:34 PM#152
Even if rift put in "wvw" it wouldn't be very good as rifts combat system is just not good for pvp - macroed to hell and back, no collision detection so you get all the fig 8ing numbnuts or you get a who can step inside and aoe duel.
  botrytis

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11/12/12 1:44:41 PM#153
Originally posted by MMOExposed

Lol sound like Anet want GW2 to be more like Rift. Lol.

notice all this stuff they doing around Rift's new Expansion release date. And Ascendant armor? Come on... Lol. Good job Trion. Hopefully Trion can take WvW idea like in GW2, and GW2 can take Zone Invasions and Raid dungeons like in Rift.

Rift more like GW1, you mean. Ascended armor was in GW1 (called Infused armor - you still took damge from the Mursaat just way lower) and it was out WAY before Rift.


"You can fool some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time."
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  Kuppa

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The problem with censorship is ********

11/12/12 1:47:38 PM#154
Its amaizing how much people look into what they want to see instead of what is actually there.


  Foomerang

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A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still

11/12/12 1:47:49 PM#155


Originally posted by RizelStar

Originally posted by Foomerang I dont think the addition of a new tier of gear by itself is the issue. I just think that for some, this is the final straw in a list of letdowns.Lets be honest for a moment, the gw2 that we have in front of us is not quite like the one anet told us about. From an outsiders view, i dont think its a big deal especially since crafting will most likely stay up to date with the new tiers added. But some people seem disillusioned and i cant really blame them. It started with dynamic events being redundant and farmable, then rng cash shop items, and now content patches that add more powerful gear. Its really hard to look past these as anet claimed a changing dynamic world that players could permanently affect, bashed sub fees saying it was basically ripping off customers, and shunning carrot on a stick tactics claiming that "fun" was all you needed.  
For Some and at the end of the day it's a video game, hope to God no one thought otherwise.

Context

Light Blue and the fact of all the previous things stated, however won't fully know till Friday(I'm assuming)

Story Mode from Manifesto

That's subjective because to [me] it does lmao.

So it's really subjective, from what I see it comes from both sides, I really can't blame either side :( 

 

 



I agree. Im just trying to see this from other peoples pov :)

Themepark is not a sub genre, its an excuse.

  fenistil

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11/12/12 1:47:54 PM#156
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Deerhunter71
Originally posted by bcbully
Gg. Let the "gear grind" begin muhahahhh lmao.

LOL yup - the holy grail game where there is no gear grind....  Looks like they see how short sighted they were.....

I'm getting interested again. Let's see if we can get a damage meter in the next patch. 

Who needs a DPS meter - only those who epeen - look I DPS much better than you. Just remember, there is no healer besides you in this game.

I do, so I can know who the bads are. hahah j/k, j/k

 

What's your gear score?

Next patch cross-server automatic auto-teleport LFG, holy trinity and raids :E

  M1sf1t

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11/12/12 1:49:30 PM#157

Well you might as well be playing WOW or RIFT or any other theme park mmo if this is the route they are going with gear. At least then you know what your getting into and their dungeons are 100000% more balanced and fun then the dung heap of dungeons we have in GW2.

In addition I'd much rather have the classical roles of the "holy trinty" given to us in theme park games rather then the half assed roles given to us in GW2 which are vague and meaningless. Also at least in Rift and WoW I can also switch specs on the fly rather then having to visit a trainer to redo my trait points.

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  botrytis

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11/12/12 1:53:26 PM#158
Originally posted by M1sf1t

Well you might as well be playing WOW or RIFT or any other theme park mmo if this is the route they are going with gear. Seriously at then you know what your getting into and their dungeons are 100000% more balanced and fun then the dung heap of dungeons we have in GW2.

I guess you never did the dung heap dungeons in Rift - they are all gimick ones - run left, run right - DPS, kill adds, etc - so dumb. ANd to get to the next Dungeon, you have to be geared up from the dungeon you are currently on.


"You can fool some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time."
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  M1sf1t

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11/12/12 1:56:09 PM#159


Originally posted by botrytis

Originally posted by M1sf1t Well you might as well be playing WOW or RIFT or any other theme park mmo if this is the route they are going with gear. Seriously at then you know what your getting into and their dungeons are 100000% more balanced and fun then the dung heap of dungeons we have in GW2.
I guess you never did the dung heap dungeons in Rift - they are all gimick ones - run left, run right - DPS, kill adds, etc - so dumb. ANd to get to the next Dungeon, you have to be geared up from the dungeon you are currently on.


And those dungeons are still better then the graveyard zerging that happens in GW2 because the bosses and mobs are so horribly balanced that players have no choice but to graveyard zerg, exploit buggy content and/or by-pass it altogether.

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  Serelisk

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11/12/12 1:58:22 PM#160

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