-Never could even get in the game =(

I thought H and H was awesome so I am sure I would like it but the damn installer just doesnt like my PC (and my sys req are far above what this game needs)- Apparently others have had my problem as well and tech support is good but has no fix.

Originally posted by Ichmen
check your anti virus or firewall, both of mine hate salem's installer/patch thing. comodo hates when i try to run it, constant splash fails :/ took me awhile to get salam to even download its patches :/

Yeah- Mu issue is the "verifying application" freeze. They said there isnt anything you can do =(

Thanks though. I really want to play too but after downloading it will not verify. I hit their tech support (no fix- Its on Oracles end) and Oracles (blames them). Quite sad actually.

Originally posted by FromHell
Strangely this sounds fun to me, just got a key and will try it out

If its anything like H and H (which its based on) it will be a BLAST...For certain people.

I agree with the OP 100%

This is some of the worst basic design I've ever seen, they need to redo all the crafting UI, and ingredient and gathering balance. World navigation is a pain too, and the tutorial needs tons of work, got killed by a snake at the start, no indication of what to do, as you couldn't out run it.

I loved earlier Haven and Hearth

Loved Wurm Online

this game....played for an hour, went "WTF" and uninstalled without looking back

unfortunately another hope destroyed by poor development

Originally posted by kb056
I was interested in this game till I read the words Permadeath. "Crafting centric" mmo and Permadeath are total opposites of each other. This game makes no sense.

In that case perhaps you should look into it more, since the permadeath is not as bad as you are assuming.

Thank you, OP. Even though I hate the idea of permadeath, I was curious about this game. Reading your post (and several others), suggests that permadeath isn't the worst issue, it seems. It's becoming very clear that this isn't a game for me.

Doesn't seem like there's a huge interest among others, either. This site now gives away beta keys, and I've never seen the amount of "keys left" tick down as slow as for this game. Still over 5,900 keys left, only around 500 gone since yesterday, even though they advertise it on the front page.

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Originally posted by kb056
I was interested in this game till I read the words Permadeath. "Crafting centric" mmo and Permadeath are total opposites of each other. This game makes no sense.

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How do you figure that? Minecraft is one of the most crafting-centric games there is and features what is essentially permadeath, FFA PvP, and even full loot.

The problem isn't that the game has permadeath and crafting. The problem is the game is nothing but a gargantuan convoluted grind... with permadeath.

Originally posted by Airspell
On paper the game sounded good, but I pretty much hate everything about the game so far. Starting with bad UI. The way you get skills was the wrong choice for a sand box game in my view, inspirationals ? Really ? You somehow get skills from finding a rock and not from actually doing things ?  The way they did combat is pretty funny too at least from the melee I saw.  The graphics are unnceessarily childish, which I find odd since most kids don't play sandbox games.  In all honesty they did pretty much everything wrong as far as feature choices go, or at least in implementing them. I couldn't recommend this game to anyone , especially not any fan of sandbox games.

Pretty much how I feel unfortunately.

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Originally posted by grimgryphon
I really wanted to like this game, but the grind is the worst I've seen in an MMO. Salem is a good example of why you should never try and make a game mechanic too much like its real-world counterpart.

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In this case they actually made it more complicated than it is in real life. If only it was as simple as in the real world.

Originally posted by Arcondo87
i cant even figure out how the hell to get new skills....

click on the iluminati looking eye.