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Originally posted by Xasapis
Personally I'm already tired with fantasy. ESO is entering a market with yet another fantasy themed mmorpg, so part of the appeal is lost right there.

 

As for the WoW clone characterisation, it can't be further from the mmorpg reality. WoW itself is a chameleon, copying throught the years everything their competition was introducing, to the point where there is nothing original in WoW besides phasing and the ability to not feel like playing a frankenstein monster after all this heavy doppleganging .

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yep, battle grounds is a Daoc ripoff and raid/gear progression is an EQ rip off.

who cares? what i don't like is when games directly ripoff wow (like SWTOR)and have the same talent specs mirror wow's for example.

Originally posted by baphamet

 

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Originally posted by Xasapis
Personally I'm already tired with fantasy. ESO is entering a market with yet another fantasy themed mmorpg, so part of the appeal is lost right there.

 

 

As for the WoW clone characterisation, it can't be further from the mmorpg reality. WoW itself is a chameleon, copying throught the years everything their competition was introducing, to the point where there is nothing original in WoW besides phasing and the ability to not feel like playing a frankenstein monster after all this heavy doppleganging .

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yep, battle grounds is a Daoc ripoff and raid/gear progression is an EQ rip off.

who cares? what i don't like is when games directly ripoff wow (like SWTOR)and have the same talent specs mirror wow's for example.

 

no wow battlegrounds share the same name but are entirely different to daoc battlegrounds.

wow battlegrounds are instanced matches between 2 equally matched teams.

daco battlegrounds are not instanced and are not matches, they are continuously playing singular persistent "leveling pvp" areas.  Also once you are leveled in daoc you can no longer go battlegrounds.  The closest modern thing to a daoc battleground would be tsws fusang projects or a singular wvw map from gw2.

wow did steal instanced dungeons from anarchy online and arena from city of heroes though

This poll is missing the option:

No, I like WoW but we already have it, why play another one?

Originally posted by EndDream

This poll is missing the option:

No, I like WoW but we already have it, why play another one?

Agreed, but we also need: "Doesn't matter if it's like WoW, I won't play it if it's not like TES"

If you haven't seen this yet, worth the watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLp0ykvotEI&feature=plcp

:)

Originally posted by ShakyMo

Originally posted by fenistil

Originally posted by korent1991

Also, what exactly is a wow clone?!

Obviously there is no definition of it, but most people that use this phrase agree that it is:  mmorpg that is almost purely combat oriented and which include very fast levelling and offer matchmaking instance-based gameplay as it's main dish.

imo a glorified lobby game. a game where you sit in cities and queue to do small team activites once you hit endgame, also with a heavy gear dependancy, and a strong emphasis on tiered raiding as the "pro game".  Not all post 2004 themeparks are wowclone.

why i think the "GW2 is a wow clone" stuff is nonsense.  Also War and Aion as they are more PVP focused.

but the term is more than apt for SWTOR, thousands of F2P chinese knock offs and to a lesser degree rift, aoc & lotro.

I agre with everything above. Just wanted to see how people really define a wow clone to them selves outside of the "troll infested" subforums :))

Originally posted by MindTrigger

I won't be playing anymore pure themeparks at all, unless I see something extraordinarily outside the current norm.  So far, TESO is showing me nothing at all that seems exciting.  Sounds like more of the same with a few tweaks here and there.

^^^Pretty much this ^^^

I've had my fill of themepark/WoW clones. I'm hopping off the hamster wheel for a while.

As for the poll question. I think the reason most mmo's are failing within the first 6 months of release is BECAUSE they are all poorly made WoW clones. They at least need to be able to compete with the aging WoW game out of the box. They can't expect players to wait 6 mnths to a year for common features that should be in an mmo when it's released. It's almost 2013, they have got to have the basic features for an mmo if they want to compete.

WoW is a EQ clone and still many people play it, i dont see your point.

Originally posted by Tayah

Originally posted by MindTrigger

I won't be playing anymore pure themeparks at all, unless I see something extraordinarily outside the current norm.  So far, TESO is showing me nothing at all that seems exciting.  Sounds like more of the same with a few tweaks here and there.

^^^Pretty much this ^^^

I've had my fill of themepark/WoW clones. I'm hopping off the hamster wheel for a while.

As for the poll question. I think the reason most mmo's are failing within the first 6 months of release is BECAUSE they are all poorly made WoW clones. They at least need to be able to compete with the aging WoW game out of the box. They can't expect players to wait 6 mnths to a year for common features that should be in an mmo when it's released. It's almost 2013, they have got to have the basic features for an mmo if they want to compete.

Eh...

I'd say that it's because the features the new kids on the block have lack longetivity. WoW has the same issue, but it can hold on better because of its heavy entrenchment into the MMO genre, and having such a massive established fanbase helped.

I will play this game no matter what. I love the Elder Scrolls Series. And they said we will be able to explore most of the regions? Sign me in! I don't care if it is what YOU guys call a themepark or not. 

Having a quest system with classes = WoW clone? 

Anyways, I am playing this game no matter what. I know it is not made by Bethesda and I like it this way. I want Bethesda to keep pushing out the TES singleplayer games.