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  Rayshe

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11/09/12 1:44:22 PM#21
Sorry TES games are simply better on PC then console. the Modability of that game has seen to that.

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  baphamet

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11/09/12 6:46:08 PM#22


Originally posted by deakon

Originally posted by baphamet  

Originally posted by deakon I dont believe in the terms console gamer or pc gamer tbh, gamers are gamers and good games are good games, the system theyre run on doesnt matter. Console versions sell well because they will pretty much run well without having to upgrade or fiddle with settings
  its not the games that are so different rather than the way we play them. console gamers are the majority and they are used to playing with controller pads. usually console gamers only game on a console, that is the issue. of course they are not going to want to go out and buy a PC or get a better one that they got just so they can play the online version of ES. most of us game on PC's already so its not an issue there.
Most households have a pc these days, so thats not an issue and like most mmo's it will be made to run on low/mid range machines in order to sell well.

 

PC exclusives can do very well but cross platform titles will always sell more on console because their simpler to set up and play

 

Edit: also with it only having 6 hotbar buttons playing it on an xbox pad should be as easy as plugging in an xbox pad


yes but how many of them actually game on their PC? most console gamers that i know and from what i have read on the forums, they are not interested in PC games unless they already game on their PC.

especially if their PC is not already set up to their entertainment center in their front room hooked up with surround sound and whatnot.

i do agree they could make a controller a viable option since there is only 6 hot buttons but then again you have the issue with running a game on an older console that has only 512 mb of memory that is designed to have 200 players on the screen.

the new consoles that come out will be able to do it but these current ones just don't have the memory to do it.

not a game like TESO at least, they would have to dumb down the graphics tremendously i would think.

  bigron

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Joined: 11/08/12
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11/09/12 8:22:22 PM#23

OP, I tend to agree.

TES was a beardy PC game series. Then came Oblivion. TES is now a very good (but more casual) console RPG series. Just look at the UI, it's designed for consoles. Even using hotbars (like in Morrowind) is difficult. The mods aren't really anything special anymore. These modding communities are nothing like the heyday of NWN or UT or something (which isn't to say modding's dead - look at Minecraft).

Bethesda is pretty solid. I love Morrowind, I liked Oblivion and Fallout 3, and I really liked Skyrim and Fallout New Vegas. Of course, except for Morrowind, I played all of them on consoles.

The Hero engine put me off to this project honestly. I heard they're using the Skyrim engine now. IDK, I think that's probably even worse. I can't see a modern console style single-player RPG engine as the basis for an MMORPG. I don't even like playing Oblivion or SKyrim on my PC, how can I play something like this?

Sure, there are games that have made this work e.g. DCUO, but I see them as more of the exception than the rule. IDK, how do you think combat will play out? Is it 3rd person or FP?

  Amsai

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11/09/12 8:47:54 PM#24

First of all, as an life-long console gamer, I would fucking love to see this game on console. But that being said, I will say that what the OP states does have some merit to it. I am 37 and played almost exclusively on console from age 10. For many of those years I not only despised PC gaming, I also hated PC gamers (different values and attitudes on what made a good game). For instance playing Final Fantasy I was my introduction into RPGs, but when I went to some kids house and was introduced to A Bards Tale, I was disgusted.

Flash forward a few years, and I am intoduced to EQ. This was the crucial point for me where I became very divided and specific with my tastes in games. From that point on I still played everything (even if there was a PC version) on console except for MMOs. However, when EQ Adventures and FFXI came out for console, guess which platform I ignored again? Now here I am waiting on FFXIV:ARR hoping the devs got a clue this time so that I can get back to being addicted to an MMO that I play forever, on console!!!!

These days I dont really care if a person is a console gamer or PC gamer, and I dont care if I play a game on PC or console. Just as long as I can use a gamepad. Now, I'm not sure if that is because I'm the odd console gamer or if its more wide-spread due to the normalization of PCs and fast pace of technology.  But judging by the success of FFXI at least, Id say there are plenty of console gamers that would love to play MMOs on console and would happily pay a sub for it. And I know I would, because I have been and plan to for FFXIV as of now. People will always pay for a quality product PC or console, but it has to be a quality product and not cater too much to things that piss off PC players like crappy console menu UIs. Or things that piss off Console players like not making thier game time feel productive. Even if FFXIV does do well though, I would still love to see other console MMO options available such as TESO (drooling over the Thives Guild and Dark Brotherhood possibilities, especially if they tie them into PvP).

As for what I do in between console MMOs, I use a gamepad on PC MMOs even if I have to xpadder to remap the buttons. I can play well enough with kb and mouse, but its not comfortable or fun for me so I dont. So with the tech for consoles getting better, and with games like GW2 and NWO and TESO using fewer buttons for combat I have faith that soon enough the mmo console market will begin to accelerate (sooner or later). Not that I need fewer buttons, I have played WoW and other games using a gamepad and got 50 plus skills accessible using the shoulder buttons as shift keys.

And no, it usually doesnt hamper me for PvP. Most MMOs I play noone knows that I use a gamepad, the few times I have mentioned it the player is usually suprised that I play so well (LOL?) Its not near the handicap people make it out to be. Now I am not trying to make a which is better argument out of this, cause I dont care. And maybe I have "special" gamepad skill cause I have used it on PC games not designed for it for years (using right analog stick for aiming/mouse). But lets not make gamepad vs kb and mouse an issue of "why it wont work", til less people quit dying from this gamepad user in Aion, Tera, and GW2 PvP >.>

I know I went a bit off target here and there, but I thought maybe some of you would like to hear from an actual hardcore  console gamer (currently replaying Metal Gear Solid 2, Currently playing Assassins Creed III, contemplating Dishonored and looking forward to 3 or so MMOs).

  Silok

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Joined: 6/22/06
Posts: 745

11/09/12 9:02:28 PM#25

I dont think more people play these games on console, i dont konw the sales for console and pc, but i know that pc games are craked easily, and a lots of pc user dont buy them but download them, so the sales cant be a good statistics for this..

Most of my friends are console player, they do buy the game, play for a few days and go sell it back to ebgames. Does that mean that more console player play this games? I dont think so.

  Souldrainer

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Joined: 5/21/06
Posts: 1878

11/10/12 3:58:06 AM#26

I didn't answer the poll.  I play it on PC, but I use a wired Xbox 360 controller.  Morrowind was my first ES game, mostly due to lack of exposure and budget.  After playing that game on a controller, I never looked back.  IMO, controllers are something the next gen of MMOs will need to support.  I don't need 150 keys in a game when the basic functionality remains:  press appropriate key at appropriate time.  Why add confusion and clunkiness?

I love PC though.  I just got a PS3 last week, and it made me love PC more.  Locked control and resolution options?  I am not saying what game, but I am looking at you, CCP, with a big fat WTF!?

 

 

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