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  Sevenstar61

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"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words

11/08/12 2:15:49 PM#21
Originally posted by motoraton
Originally posted by Skuz

 

Originally posted by MikeB
Originally posted by motoraton
MMM i have only one question can u trade the items from the store? u can sell the unlocks to other players? if that can happen i think i will play the game,

Yes. It says this right in the article. :)

 

No, you cannot "sell the unlocks" because those are "feature" purchases for your account.

The tradeable things are "item" purchases, such as gear or consumables, things which are sent to your inventory.

 

 mm if u cant trade the unlocks, how the free player can get the unlocks -.-? only paying ? no other way?

that sucks :S the gear or consumables for what? if u can go to pvp more than 5 time per week? or cant go to raids :S

the other problem is limit credit for f2p so if u can buy one item  only for 200k no more so i think if the unlocks can sell for sure cost more then 200k 

200 k in SWTOR is a great amount of money. LOL when I started to play I could never get to this limit until I got to level 50 and started dailies. Majority of orange gear on GTN costs from 5k to 15k, unless you want something fancy looking or rare like pants for inquisitor LOL. Also you are not loosing credits if you get above 200 k. They are going to escrow account and you can use it when you sub. F2P players will have to watch they credits and buy stuff when they get close to limit... that's that simple.

Edit. Item for more then 200 k are only at level 50 --- purple mods for ops etc.


Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  Ghavrigg

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11/08/12 2:26:30 PM#22

My concern with this game going F2P is not so much the cash shop, but I read they were limiting the amount of content you can do and be rewarded for on a weekly basis, and it seemed like the limitations were a bit much, like only being able to do 3 flashpoints a week, 2 space missions, etc.

Does this seem like it'd be a big issue from what you've seen?

  tryklon

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"The flow of time is cruel...its speed seems different for each person, but no one can change it..."

11/08/12 2:29:53 PM#23
Originally posted by Aviggin

My concern with this game going F2P is not so much the cash shop, but I read they were limiting the amount of content you can do and be rewarded for on a weekly basis, and it seemed like the limitations were a bit much, like only being able to do 3 flashpoints a week, 2 space missions, etc.

Does this seem like it'd be a big issue from what you've seen?

WHat I want to know is the price of those packs. Operations and Flashpoints unlock. Anyone knows it?

  motoraton

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11/08/12 2:31:14 PM#24
Ok that fine,  any try to put  Unlocks from the store in the galatic network on PTS?, like pass for more warfronts? or raid or something like that 
  Sevenstar61

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"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words

11/08/12 2:32:44 PM#25
Originally posted by Aviggin

My concern with this game going F2P is not so much the cash shop, but I read they were limiting the amount of content you can do and be rewarded for on a weekly basis, and it seemed like the limitations were a bit much, like only being able to do 3 flashpoints a week, 2 space missions, etc.

Does this seem like it'd be a big issue from what you've seen?

You can do as many flashpoints as you want, full rewards are limited to 3 per week, not particiption. 3 space missions per week unless you unlock weekly pass.

The access to story is free, additional content is limited. You can enjoy the journey to 50 without need to pay a penny if you choose so, if you want to enjoy additional features you need to pay.

 


Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  Geladius

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11/08/12 2:34:31 PM#26
Was interested in this but really leary that they lock ui options away from free players.
  MikeB

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OP  11/08/12 2:34:51 PM#27
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Originally posted by motoraton
MMM i have only one question can u trade the items from the store? u can sell the unlocks to other players? if that can happen i think i will play the game,

When you first get most cartel items, they are bound to you for a timeframe based on your account status. You will not be able to trade/mail/GTN the item(s) until that timer finishes, and it turns the item back from bound to bind on equip.

 

So answer is yes, but I am not sure what means the account status. I will try to find out.

 

Edit. The timeframe is different for subscribers, Preferred status and F2P. The shortest is for subscribers the longest for F2P. But after this time expires you can sell these items.

Edit 2: I don't think you can sell unlocks.

You can indeed sell unlocks, including Weekly Warzone Passes.

Michael "MikeB" Bitton
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  MikeB

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OP  11/08/12 2:35:25 PM#28
Originally posted by Sevenstar61

There is a new article on massively posted today - and it confirms that the final date for F2P is November 15th,

 

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/11/08/swtor-launches-free-to-play-on-november-15th-no-rumor/

 

Or, you know, this article right here that you're commenting on does the same thing. :)

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  Sevenstar61

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"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words

11/08/12 2:36:52 PM#29

Here is a link to prices on Cartel Market. Remember, though that this may be subject to change

http://dulfy.net/2012/10/23/swtor-cartel-market-items/

Consumables

Item CC Description
Weekly Pass: Flashpoints 240

This pass will give you access to loot that drops in Flashpoints if you already reached your weekly limit. This pass lasts 7 days

  • Note: Subscribers already have full access to Flashpoint loot
  • Each consumed Pass adds an additional 7 days to your Access Period
Weekly Pass: Space Missions 240 Do you want more space combat action? This pass will give you full access to Space Missions for a period of 7 days
  • Note: Subscribers already have full access to Space Missions
  • Each consumed Pass adds an additional 7 days to your Access Period
Weekly Pass: Operations 240

Using this pass will unlock Operation access for a period of 7 days.

  • (left blank, possibility a typo)
  • Each consumed Pass adds an additional 7 days to your Access Period
Weekly Pass: Warzones 240

This pass will give you unlimited access to Warzones for a 7 day period.

  • Note: Subscribers already have unlimited access to Warzone
  • Each consumed Pass adds an additional 7 days to your Access Period
Major Valor Boost 50

Add a boost to your Valor gains! Gain additional valor for a full 3 hours with this Boost!

  • Increase valor points gained by 25% for 3 hours
  • This Boost will not stack with other Valor Boost consumables
Minor Valor Boost 30

Add a boost to your Valor gains! Gain additional valor for a limited time with this Boost!

  • Increase valor points gained by 25% for 1 hours
  • This Boost will not stack with other Valor Boost consumables
Quick Travel (single use) 90 This will not trigger the cooldown of your Quick Travel ability
Fleet Pass (single use) 90 This will not trigger the cooldown of Emergency Fleet Pass (subscribers only)
Medical Probes 500

Are you losing too much time recovering at the Medical Stations? Purchase Medical Probes and recover directly in the field!

  • Includes 5 Medical probes
  • Subscribers have unlimited Medical probes.
Major Experience Boost 120

Add a major Boost to your experience and level faster for even longer!

  • Increases experience gained from all sources by 25% for 3 hours.
  •  
5-Pack: Major Experience Boost 480 This multi-pack of Major Experience Boost gets your 5 boosts for the price of 4!
Minor Experience Boost 60
  • Increases experience gained from all sources by 25% for 1 hours.
  • This boost will not stack with other Experience Boost Consumables
  • Boosts are not removed when your character is defeated.
 


Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  Digirono

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11/08/12 2:38:29 PM#30

Originally posted by BillMurphy
I plan on trying it too.  I never did get to finish some of my personal stories because other projects popped up.  This will allow that, at least!

I plan on doing this also, I only got to level 39 on my Marauder :P.

 

 

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

 

There is a new article on massively posted today - and it confirms that the final date for F2P is November 15th,

 

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/11/08/swtor-launches-free-to-play-on-november-15th-no-rumor/

 

Thank you for posting this, i've been wondering when they would do it. I've heard people say either this month or next month, but not an actual date. 
 

 

  Sevenstar61

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"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words

11/08/12 2:41:21 PM#31
Originally posted by MikeB
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Originally posted by motoraton
MMM i have only one question can u trade the items from the store? u can sell the unlocks to other players? if that can happen i think i will play the game,

When you first get most cartel items, they are bound to you for a timeframe based on your account status. You will not be able to trade/mail/GTN the item(s) until that timer finishes, and it turns the item back from bound to bind on equip.

 

So answer is yes, but I am not sure what means the account status. I will try to find out.

 

Edit. The timeframe is different for subscribers, Preferred status and F2P. The shortest is for subscribers the longest for F2P. But after this time expires you can sell these items.

Edit 2: I don't think you can sell unlocks.

You can indeed sell unlocks, including Weekly Warzone Passes.

These are consumables so yes, everything what ends up in your inventory I guess.


Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  tryklon

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"The flow of time is cruel...its speed seems different for each person, but no one can change it..."

11/08/12 2:43:57 PM#32
Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Here is a link to prices on Cartel Market. Remember, though that this may be subject to change

http://dulfy.net/2012/10/23/swtor-cartel-market-items/

After reading that I can safely say That I prefer a million times to reactivate my World Of Warcraft account

  motoraton

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11/08/12 2:47:25 PM#33
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Originally posted by MikeB
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Originally posted by motoraton
MMM i have only one question can u trade the items from the store? u can sell the unlocks to other players? if that can happen i think i will play the game,

When you first get most cartel items, they are bound to you for a timeframe based on your account status. You will not be able to trade/mail/GTN the item(s) until that timer finishes, and it turns the item back from bound to bind on equip.

 

So answer is yes, but I am not sure what means the account status. I will try to find out.

 

Edit. The timeframe is different for subscribers, Preferred status and F2P. The shortest is for subscribers the longest for F2P. But after this time expires you can sell these items.

Edit 2: I don't think you can sell unlocks.

You can indeed sell unlocks, including Weekly Warzone Passes.

These are consumables so yes, everything what ends up in your inventory I guess.

 

i think i will try the game. i think the free player can buy the passes for credits, if u dont hurry for clear the content, u can play without paying 

  tryklon

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"The flow of time is cruel...its speed seems different for each person, but no one can change it..."

11/08/12 3:10:31 PM#34

Is there any info on the price of cartel coins?

How many can 10 euros buy for example?

  Gruug

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11/08/12 3:14:52 PM#35

I have been a subscriber since launch and plan to continue to do so until Feburary 2013. I have been "testing" the Prefered Account options on the SWTOR test server (PTS) up until they converted everyone back to the "subscribtion" character. While playing as a prefered account, Bioware gave each of us 9,000 Cartel Coin to play with. What I found was that the cost in Cartel Coin to bring my characters (account wide) up to what they had been during the "subscription" period was pretty steep. I ended up spending something on the order of 4,000 CC. That did not include an "passes" for OPs (raids) or PvP. What I spent it on as so that I could wear high level armor/weapons; adding back at least one tool bar; and purchasing back a third crafting/crew ability.  There were a couple of other items too which I can not recall at the moment. Anyway, for me it was just very costly to do that. I have not heard the "offical" conversion dollars to CC but unoffical information suggests it will be somewhere north of one cent per CC.

As to the store itself, I did not really see anything that I would pay real money for. There were a couple of items that were interesting but not worth the expentiture either as a "free" player or as a subscriber. I am sure others will find items they just must have but not of them are needed to make me shell out real cash.

My other concern is that subscribers are not going to see much content unless they are willing to pay for it above and beyond their sub fee. Hopefully, I am wrong but based upon how most of those stores operate, subscribers will not be getting much for the sub fees they will blunk down.

So, I am done once my sub is gone. Over and OUT!

 

Let's party like it is 1863!

  tryklon

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11/08/12 3:21:51 PM#36

One cent per CC? LOL thats a crime.

I mean, if a weekly pass to flashpoints cost 240 conis I would spend around 1000 for a month, or in this case 10 dollars.

10 dollars to do flashpoints alone, not operations, warzones etc etc etc.

Lol

  Muke

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11/08/12 3:25:05 PM#37
Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Edit. They reward active subscribers, not every person who ever played the game. And I think it's a right choice.

Unfortunately, the f2p thingy is meant to get in new players, and fmr players to come back.....they already have their subscribers tied to the game.

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  Bama1267

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11/08/12 3:44:17 PM#38
Originally posted by Sevenstar61

You have to be active subscriber at the time of launching F2P to get CC. It is believed that the date will be 11/14/12

 

Edit. They reward active subscribers, not every person who ever played the game. And I think it's a right choice.

 Those are the kind of right choices that made it go free to play in less than a year in the first place.  A lot of people supported this game, a lot of people spent good money on this game, and a lot of people subbed to this game for some time. I dont think it's the right choice at all but It probably wouldnt keep me from trying out some other classes when Im bored of another game.

  Ozmodan

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11/08/12 4:06:19 PM#39
Originally posted by Sevenstar61

You have to be active subscriber at the time of launching F2P to get CC. It is believed that the date will be 11/14/12

 

Edit. They reward active subscribers, not every person who ever played the game. And I think it's a right choice.

Right, penalize the people who bought the game and actually subscribed.  Sounds like it is right out of the EA response book.

Seriously, why stick it to previous people who actually spent some real money on this game, only EA could come up with such a brain dead idea!

  lizardbones

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11/08/12 4:14:33 PM#40


Originally posted by Ozmodan

Originally posted by Sevenstar61 You have to be active subscriber at the time of launching F2P to get CC. It is believed that the date will be 11/14/12   Edit. They reward active subscribers, not every person who ever played the game. And I think it's a right choice.
Right, penalize the people who bought the game and actually subscribed.  Sounds like it is right out of the EA response book.

Seriously, why stick it to previous people who actually spent some real money on this game, only EA could come up with such a brain dead idea!




The same people who stopped paying for the game and left? If you're going to go on about loyalty, why should the developer show loyalty to the people who showed no loyalty to them? That whole link of thinking is a waste of time.

In any event, as a former subscriber, should I subscribe again, I would get more Cartel Coins than someone who never subscribed before. They are giving the former subscribers more than non-subscribers. Here's the thing. For the people on these forums, who are complaining about stuff like this, there doesn't exist and amount of stuff or reward that would make them happy. EA is better off not even trying.

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