Originally posted by Zylaxx

Originally posted by ShakyMo
It's more a rehash of wow / gw2 than a rehash of daoc. The only things daoc is the optional 3 sided outdoor pvp (and even that's on multiple instances) and the open dungeons.

Where as wow
Raiding endgame - check with open ended dungeons and mega world exploration like TES and opend raids like in DAoC
Instanced mini game pvp matches - check NEGATIVE, TESO does not feature battlegrounds or instanced PvP/Arenas.  The only PvP is the 3 faction area of Cryodill
Instanced dungeons - check and open dungeons, instanced dungeons are there for the PvE nerds.

Gw2
Personal story - check and Skyrim, Morrowind or Oblivian didnt have a main storyline?  TESO jsut like the single player games features tons of open ended questing which is explorable centric unlike WoW where I am guided on rails from 1-80
Semi action combat - check As opposed to what?  Actiony style combat is the new rave now plus according to every person who went to the press event the game plays exactly like the single player game
Personal story - check so we get 2 checks for the same thing?

Really its not like daoc at all, pvpers couldn't hide in minigames, everything was outdoor and persistent, there was zero instancing, raids were an outdoor thing for the entire realm to pile on, not for an elitist clique, gear wasn't that important etc..

NO MINI GAMES, ZERO BATTLEGROUNDS ALL PVP TAKES PLACE IN THE RVR AREA.

 

TESO is persistant, it is open ended, free roam explorable mode just like the single player RPG's.  To say Gear wasnt important in the single player game is to make a mockery of the game, it is afterall a RPG which features progression.  I know guys who spent 300+ hours aquiring the perfect suit of armor in Skyrim.

its rvr area is like gw2 only with elder scrolls theme attached to it

All or are talking about graphics,game play,game style - u compare ESO to other games....

I think if game is cometitive* and hard* enough it will be a good game. Developers can hardly make game that is not interesting (especially this kind of a game) what destroys MMO games of this type is that people is QQ ing to much for expample. " I payed this game with MY money and i am (paying monthly) i wanna be EPIC and i wanna see the end game content and  if not this game suq"

By HARD - i mean that u need to invest into this game,play alot,be hard core player and u will be revarded and ofc that u can show other players ur success so they can envy u and also invest time in the game to be like u.

By COMPETITIVE - i mean that u are surrounded by all kinds of players witch ESO have already implemented in the game when they imtrodused MEGA server.

But i will play Dominion for sure ! :) Cheers

Originally posted by ShakyMo
Zylax:
You are wrong

TESO does have mini game pvp
TESO is not a fully persistent world like daoc as it features instanced pvp mini games, instanced pve, instanced personal story and most importantly its on a mega server running multiple instances of every world zone including the pvp zone cyrodil.

no.  you are wrong.

there are no 'mini pvp games'.  the pvp is in cyrodill.  a persistent (doesnt reset like in gw2) zone with public dungeons ,  towns, quests, npc's,   siege warfare.  

the game is also just as persistent as every other game that has multiple servers.  

"In order to maintain the PvP focus on the massive realm war in Cyrodiil, ZeniMax has elected to not include any form of structured or instanced PvP at launch. They want players’ focus to be on the alliance war, which is the crowning facet of TESO’s gameplay. ^(TF1)"

Originally posted by ShakyMo
Zylax:
You are wrong

TESO does have mini game pvp
TESO is not a fully persistent world like daoc as it features instanced pvp mini games, instanced pve, instanced personal story and most importantly its on a mega server running multiple instances of every world zone including the pvp zone cyrodil.

Flat out wrong.  You really should read up on your facts.

Originally posted by Entinerint

Originally posted by zomard100

Originally posted by Entinerint

LOL yeah let's focus on the already-most-popular-faction by a factor of 2:1. that have 2 of the 3 starring races of past TES games in it (the 3rd being Imperials who are not playable).

Not your guys fault, ZOS is pumping them up to be ESO's Albion...and history repeats itself...

This game is gonna fail so hard...

 

Don't you have anything better to do?

Why?  What are you doing right now?

Well, he's not trolling based off of zero fact.  I was a Troll in Migard, and I loved it.  I could always find some puny Alb or Hib faces to smash in.  I don't seem to recall DAoC failing because of population imbalances.

Originally posted by Ambros123

Originally posted by Nemesis7884
i also have the slight feeling this faction could be too popular...even if so, the great feature about a 3 section system is that the two weaker faction can combine their forces and this can even out the playfield... were gonna see...most experienced mmo players rather tend to support the faction with fewest members so

Jade Quarry usually steamroles the opposing worlds in WvWvW.  I find the whole 2 weaker will gang up on the stronger faction bullet hard to beleive.

You don't have to believe it.  I've witnessed it in DAoC.  It works.  It may be short lived, but it will happen.

Originally posted by ShakyMo
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Where as wow
Raiding endgame - check
Instanced mini game pvp matches - check
Instanced dungeons - check

Gw2
Personal story - check
Semi action combat - check
Personal story - check

 

Just to point out, WoW didnt introduce endgame raiding or instanced dungeons - they were both in EQ quite a few years before WoW was released. As for GW2, personal story could be argued of for SW:Tor to name one, and semi action combat can be taken from AoC and TSW (if you count dodging).

Wish games would stop using the bolstering effect for PvP. I don't care to be boosted to max lvl, I actually want to fight people my lvl not these high lvls with more abilites and better gear. For the most part you can't compete, yea I've been a low lvl char and killed a high lvl before its fun but it rarely happens. 

I'm happy to see games usingthe DAOC 3 faction system but now I wish they would take the battleground system as well, it was the best. These companies need to start picking that up instead of this bolstering garbage.