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  Sevenstar61

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11/07/12 1:36:45 PM#21

Depends what we are considering graphic upgrade. It that would mean character re-customization I would probably check back on EQ2 and LOTRO. LOTRO has really nice graphic though, but their characters are just wooden dolls, I can't make myself to play it mostly because of that... and endless grind LOL, but upgraded, immersible characters would help. Animations really sucks in this game. EQ2 is so much better in this area, but still would need a major upgrade.


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  Skuz

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11/07/12 1:38:57 PM#22

Would take a lot more than purely the graphics, so much more it would qualify as practically a new game anyway.

  cybertrucker

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11/07/12 1:42:02 PM#23

I left EQ  due to try new things. Ithought about goiing back once and the went on YouTube and watched a few videos and was like Wow I used to think that looked good. Afterwards I changed my mind and never went back. I have said before to my friends I would go back if they upped the graphics.

i left AION due to silly skins they started putting in. Like lollipop weapon skins

  Dogloks

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11/07/12 1:42:37 PM#24

I would play Asherons Call (DT) in a heartbeat if they did a new server and had the equivalent of WoW graphics/UI.

 

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  Yamaeda

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11/07/12 1:43:32 PM#25

Basically the new X-COM is a graphic overhaul of the original and it's awesome! Didn't Monkey Island sell pretty well with the new graphics? If we're talking really old games then yes, many of those were really good ideas but will make your eyes bleed nowadays. If we're talking 'old' games (dx7-9) it is a hinder to get new players, but should chase existing players away.

AO is a good example, i quit because it got too grindy, not because of the graphics, but i'll gladly give it a couple of months with a graphics overhaul because the ideas are solid.

 

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  inmysights

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11/07/12 1:48:36 PM#26
If they updated the graphics to EQ 1, I would re-sub before I finished this sentence!

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  maplestone

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11/07/12 1:52:44 PM#27
Originally posted by Loktofeit

Has anyone ever said they left a game because the graphics became dated?

It may not have been the breaking point that made me leave a game, but it's probably kept me from returning to one or two games after seeing something more modern.

I tend to focus my critical thinking on game systems, but it is not uncommon for me to find myself just sitting overlooking some vista and just admiring the scope of what a modern game creates.

 

  darkhalf357x

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11/07/12 1:55:03 PM#28
Originally posted by Vion1x

I'm playing Quake live (Quake 3 free in a web browser) so i guess that answer it for me :)

Graphics = 10%

gameplay = 90%

Thats my personal view on it.

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  darkhalf357x

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11/07/12 1:56:29 PM#29
Originally posted by inmysights
If they updated the graphics to EQ 1, I would re-sub before I finished this sentence!

^This!  Well I'm already subbed to EQ1... but updated graphics would definitely enhance my experience

  Arkangel32

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11/07/12 1:58:35 PM#30
Update Ultima Online!!!  Bring it back!!!
  Keller

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11/07/12 1:58:47 PM#31
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Foreverdream

Simply put, Would you play older games if they JUST updated the graphics? nothing else would be changed.  EQ, FF11, DAoC etc

Has anyone ever said they left a game because the graphics became dated?

Ultima Online, my eyes hurt after 10 minutes. So Ultimata Online revised!

  Theocritus

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11/07/12 2:11:33 PM#32
Originally posted by Vion1x

I'm playing Quake live (Quake 3 free in a web browser) so i guess that answer it for me :)

Graphics = 10%

gameplay = 90%

Thats my personal view on it.

      Graphics have rarely ever been a deciding factor for me also......UO was one that I had an issue with the graphics and a couple of other games, but it rarely ever kept me from playing a game where I liked the gameplay.....My problem with most of todays MMOs is they put too much emphasis on the graphics and not enough on the game itself.

  Buccaneer

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11/07/12 2:11:34 PM#33
I would love to see some of the old games have a graphics overhaul, but more importantly for me, I would love to see the UI updated.
  Deivos

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11/07/12 2:23:06 PM#34

Well, one could refer to DAoC seeing as they did a couple graphics updates and one more major one during that game's high point.

 

I'm very much with the crowd that says 'no' though. And more so because DAoC illustrates the problem with just upgrading the graphics rather well.

 

People say on and off that animations have improved too, but the real problem that tends to plague older titles to make them feel old is the outdated physics and animations. The syncing of the animations between the character and environment goes a long way to affecting the perceived quality of a game in a way that upgradng the graphics just can't influence. When I look at DAoC now, I know the models look pretyt good and it would be a fine looking game overall with modern rendering, but they have to change the way the players move and interact in the world as well otherwise you are going to feel disconnected.

 

I will say that the people who harp on WoW do have this aspect right. The animation in that game are considerably more grounded and it's gone a long way to helping the game's staying power in my opinion, in spite of the graphics that I never liked. Though I haven't played WoW in quite a while and was never that fond of the title myself(for other reasons), so...take that as you will. :p

 

It's in a sense the illusion of how responsive the system is. An attack might be triggered at the same time, the animation might take the same time to execute, and it might tally the damage at the same time. But if one animation looks to be disjointed(twitchy, glitchy, not synced with other animations), slow, or 'chunky' (crude or unrefined animation) then that animation is just not going to appeal and is going to cause a more negative percetion of the title regardless of graphics.

 

This is not to dismiss the appeal updated graphics has. Certainly it'd make people look if you revamped the visuals, but it's ony one aspect, and unless the supporting structure is updated too then it'll rapidly fall flat for many people.

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  Cephus404

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11/07/12 2:36:53 PM#35
No, probably not.  If I've left a game, it had nothing to do with the graphics, I left for a reason and I'm not going back if that reason still exists.  Most games have systemic problems that will not be solved by making the game pretty.

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  Kyleran

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11/07/12 2:43:08 PM#36

In a word No.

Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed DAOC back in the day, but the reason I don't play today has nothing to do with the graphics and everything to do with the many changes (wrong turns in my book) the title took over the years which certainly wouldn't be improved with better visuals.

 

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  Sovrath

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11/07/12 2:44:21 PM#37

I would say that I'd never leave a game because its graphics were dated.

It's a non-issue for me.

  aspekx

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11/07/12 2:44:57 PM#38
i wish i weren't so shallow, but yes, if DAoC or AO or EQ ever got a graphics overhaul i would certainly be interested.

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  Cephus404

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11/07/12 3:04:31 PM#39
Originally posted by chelan
i wish i weren't so shallow, but yes, if DAoC or AO or EQ ever got a graphics overhaul i would certainly be interested.

But it doesn't make the game any better.  I spent at least 4 months at the end, subbed to AO and doing nothing.  I'd log in, I'd consider my options, try to figure out what I wanted to do, realize I didn't want to play the game and log off.  Lather, rinse, repeat.  I wasted a ton of money at the end before I realized I didn't want to be playing the game at all.  There's only so long you can go on playing a game before you run out of things to do.

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  bcbully

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11/07/12 3:11:03 PM#40
Yes, I would.
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