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  Aerowyn

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11/03/12 7:25:31 AM#161
Originally posted by Papadam

GW2 have probably the worst and most defensive fanbase on this site. THere is more threads about why peole bash the game then there are thread actually bashing...

Every critizism against GW2 is met with a bunch of fans  blaming "themepark burnout" .. just lol...

Ive even seen fans saying that not having mounts is a PRO not a con.. unbelievable.

GW2 is just a solid game without a monthly sub.

so because you believe it's a CON it must be? good to know

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  xAPOCx

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11/03/12 7:26:40 AM#162
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by xAPOCx

EDIT: My comparison on GW2 to these shows was to point out that GW2 is ment for that quick log in and play for 10 mins then log out. Was in no way intended to compared to those shows as if GW2 was a POS lol.

So when many guildies (including myself) play up to 6+ hours a day during week ends, we are doing something wrong...

Sorry man, but your play style isn't by any means a general rule ;)

Im just goin by what Anet set forth as fact. Dont kill the messenger. Did they not say the GW2 was casual friendly? that it was ment to be picked up for a few hours a week then could be put back down for an extented period of time then picked back up again without feeling like your working from behind? Im paraphrasing mind you.

 

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  xAPOCx

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11/03/12 7:36:38 AM#163
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Papadam

GW2 have probably the worst and most defensive fanbase on this site. THere is more threads about why peole bash the game then there are thread actually bashing...

Every critizism against GW2 is met with a bunch of fans  blaming "themepark burnout" .. just lol...

Ive even seen fans saying that not having mounts is a PRO not a con.. unbelievable.

GW2 is just a solid game without a monthly sub.

so because you believe it's a CON it must be? good to know

Im sure its a CON to him so your right it must be. Were loosing site that most of this hate/love about gw2 or any game for the matter is ALL OPINIONATIVE.

 

No reason to get snipy because of someones opinion no matter how unreasonable it may seem to you.

 

My grandpop uase to say "opinions are like assholes. everyone has them and they all stink."

  Aerowyn

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11/03/12 7:37:40 AM#164
Originally posted by xAPOCx
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Papadam

GW2 have probably the worst and most defensive fanbase on this site. THere is more threads about why peole bash the game then there are thread actually bashing...

Every critizism against GW2 is met with a bunch of fans  blaming "themepark burnout" .. just lol...

Ive even seen fans saying that not having mounts is a PRO not a con.. unbelievable.

GW2 is just a solid game without a monthly sub.

so because you believe it's a CON it must be? good to know

Im sure its a CON to him so your right it must be. Were loosing site that most of this hate/love about gw2 or any game for the matter is ALL OPINIONATIVE.

 

No reason to get snipy because of someones opinion no matter how unreasonable it may seem to you.

 

My grandpop uase to say "opinions are like assholes. everyone has them and they all stink."

guess you missed my point.. nm

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  Omnifish

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I'll kick your a**e so hard, you could build a swimming pool in the footprint!

11/03/12 7:39:06 AM#165
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by grimal
It's called hype backlash.  The bigger the hype, the harder the fall.

after 3 BWEs and hundreds of youtube videos what all was really hidden as far as core gameplay? what the game was all about was known for quite sometime.. no raids no stat progressive gear grind.. all that was known for a very long time.. if that's what upset people that's really their own fault..

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The problem with videos and developers promise is in can all look great but in reality doesn't always work out. No gear grinding? Great! I hate doing that as well. But reality there's nothing to aim for at lv80 thus no continuation of playing. Dynamic events? Awesome, no quest hubs and massive grouping in all areas! In reality it's just a reverse of a questing mechanic, with less variety then it's competitors.  I could go on but I think you get the point.

Is 3 BWE's enough time to make an assessment about an MMO? I doubt it, that's at most 12 days, hardly a great time to make an assessment longterm.  I stopped playing after about 15 days play time so that's just after, short term it is fun, just isn't an involved enough experience for me.

The bashing is quite simple, it's the same thing we had with WAR and AOC. [mod edit]

 

This looks like a job for....The Riviera Kid!

  muffins89

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11/03/12 7:39:12 AM#166
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I think the prostitute mod corrupted your game files man. -elhefen

  Aerowyn

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11/03/12 7:45:35 AM#167
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I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  RefMinor

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Hipster

11/03/12 7:49:54 AM#168
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  deakon

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11/03/12 7:51:43 AM#169
Originally posted by muffins89

some people do hate things for being successful.  http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101116231928AAjXS12

 

im curious as to why you hate starbucks?

Because they make billions yet last year paid £0 tax, that makes them a word i cant say on a public forum

  Rimmersman

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11/03/12 7:51:43 AM#170
I would say most the negative feelings towards GW2 is more to do with it's fans on this site at least.

Any negative constructive post is meet with fans who are way to defensive over what is an average MMO at most.

 

An example would be a fan slating anyone who said they were bored and then weeks later the same fan starts a thread complaining about the very issues that he was calling others trolls for.

 

Then you have the fan who really is blind to any fault that GW2 does have.Mention bugs and he will say "i haven't seen any bugs" or mention the never ending bugs and hacks and he will say "what server are you on because i have never seen a bot or hacks" so this is why i think GW2 get's the stick it does.

 

The actual game is okay but that's all it is IMO.

  TwoThreeFour

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11/03/12 7:52:41 AM#171
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by grimal
It's called hype backlash.  The bigger the hype, the harder the fall.

after 3 BWEs and hundreds of youtube videos what all was really hidden as far as core gameplay? what the game was all about was known for quite sometime.. no raids no stat progressive gear grind.. all that was known for a very long time.. if that's what upset people that's really their own fault..

Precisely, add to that "hacking & botting" like in any other recent themepark MMORPG, and people should not really be surprised. It was all out there for those who were prepared to look. People should take responsability and stop blaming the companies for their own mistakes.

  Aerowyn

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11/03/12 7:53:00 AM#172
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I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  Rimmersman

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11/03/12 7:53:12 AM#173

Edited.

 

  xAPOCx

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11/03/12 7:58:05 AM#174
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  TwoThreeFour

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11/03/12 8:00:34 AM#175
Originally posted by xAPOCx
Originally posted by Omnifish
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You cant put that on her or anyone else that hyped up GW2. At some point personal responsibility has to play a part. If you chose to buy GW2 after you read someones hype post about the game and then hated it, you have no one to blame but yourself.

I agree, but you are being far too leniant in my opinion. If anyone bought GW2 and then found out they didn't like the game as much as they wanted to, then it is their own fault. There was more than enough information released prior to the official release of the game. It is like running in front of a train and then blame the train company for your wounds. 

  Aerowyn

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11/03/12 8:02:02 AM#176
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I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  xAPOCx

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11/03/12 8:04:36 AM#177
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by xAPOCx
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by xAPOCx
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Papadam

GW2 have probably the worst and most defensive fanbase on this site. THere is more threads about why peole bash the game then there are thread actually bashing...

Every critizism against GW2 is met with a bunch of fans  blaming "themepark burnout" .. just lol...

Ive even seen fans saying that not having mounts is a PRO not a con.. unbelievable.

GW2 is just a solid game without a monthly sub.

so because you believe it's a CON it must be? good to know

Im sure its a CON to him so your right it must be. Were loosing site that most of this hate/love about gw2 or any game for the matter is ALL OPINIONATIVE.

 

No reason to get snipy because of someones opinion no matter how unreasonable it may seem to you.

 

My grandpop uase to say "opinions are like assholes. everyone has them and they all stink."

guess you missed my point.. nm

sorry i mush have. and if you dont explain what that point was ill never know =)

he is saying people who believe having no mounts as a PRO is "unbelievable" which is basically saying people who have differn't opinion than him is ubelievable.. that was my point

He believes. His opinion. Others share his opinion and others, like yourself, dont. Its not a crime to dissagree.

  Pratt2112

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11/03/12 8:05:49 AM#178
Originally posted by grimal

It's called hype backlash.  The bigger the hype, the harder the fall.

If this game was not as hyped up as it was, you would see a lot less grumbling (I know, I know, there was no hype because it was all true...and people knew exactly the kind of game it was because they played the BWEs.....)

It was the people in the BWE's doing the most hyping, ironically.

When people are making remarks like, "It's a genre changer", "quest hubs are dead" and are asking questions about how it's changed the way MMOs will be made going forward, when the game wasn't even out 2 weeks yet... That's pure hype. 100%.

There were tons of people saying such things, around here and elsewhere.

 

Anyone who tries to now turn around and claim there was no hype is absolutely full of it... or has a serious memory problem.

You're absolutely right about the hype backlash, too.

"Devs need to stop trying to make MMOs for people who don't like MMOs" - thevampirelematt/Reddit

  Aerowyn

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11/03/12 8:06:11 AM#179
Originally posted by xAPOCx
 

He believes. His opinion. Others share his opinion and others, like yourself, dont. Its not a crime to dissagree.

that was my exact point.. but guess it went right over your head... that's why I said nm earlier

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  deakon

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11/03/12 8:08:02 AM#180
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
Originally posted by xAPOCx
Originally posted by Omnifish
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You cant put that on her or anyone else that hyped up GW2. At some point personal responsibility has to play a part. If you chose to buy GW2 after you read someones hype post about the game and then hated it, you have no one to blame but yourself.

I agree, but you are being far too leniant in my opinion. If anyone bought GW2 and then found out they didn't like the game as much as they wanted to, then it is their own fault. There was more than enough information released prior to the official release of the game. It is like running in front of a train and then blame the train company for your wounds. 

Ever heard the phrase "what sounds good on paper doesnt always work well in practice"?

 

It doesnt matter how much people knew before the game came out or even that they played it on the bwe's, what matters is how much fun they got out of the game when playing it for weeks.

 

Lack of progression, buggy/broken events, zergy dungeons, 6hour wvw queu's with unbalanced matches, hackers/botters, are all things that we didnt know would be bad until the game had been live for a few weeks

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