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  Icewhite

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11/02/12 10:06:40 PM#121
Originally posted by sammyeli

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvIM8RUPCYE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPrnduGtgmc

I fear it won't do any good.  Derailment is ultmately even more futile I guess...we now return you folks to your regularly scheduled daily same ole.

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  stevebmbsqd

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11/02/12 10:06:56 PM#122
Originally posted by sammyeli
Originally posted by stevebmbsqd
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by stevebmbsqd
 

If a ton of people say something....there must be some truth to it.....

yup just like wow is the worst mmo ever made.. see that thrown around here all the time.. MUST be true though

I suppose to a lot of people it must be.....  I wonder how many tens of millions have unsubscribed over the years??????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvIM8RUPCYE

I love that video!!!!!!!!!!!!

  stevebmbsqd

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11/02/12 10:18:51 PM#123
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by stevebmbsqd
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by stevebmbsqd
 

If a ton of people say something....there must be some truth to it.....

yup just like wow is the worst mmo ever made.. see that thrown around here all the time.. MUST be true though

I suppose to a lot of people it must be.....  I wonder how many tens of millions have unsubscribed over the years??????

sure TONS have doesn't stop it from being one of the most popular MMOs ever even after all those years.. point is take anything anyone says here with a grain of salt.. but figured that was a given...

Who doesn't take it with a grain of salt? You...... The game has serious issues for some people. It is perfection for others. No amount of your white knighting is going to change the opinions of the people who dislike it. To them, it is the very core of the game....the mechanics....that they don't like. Does it really matter? Play your game. If you enjoy it...great. There are a lot of people playing it. It isn't a WoW killer, but nobody ever realistically thought it would be. It has a healthy enough population and interests enough people that I am sure it will be around and playable for some time to come.  

  GeezerGamer

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11/02/12 10:21:20 PM#124
Originally posted by xAPOCx
Originally posted by Ridelynn

I think the saying goes
A hater's gotta hate
But I'm not from the streets, so I'm not sure about that

Also - I don't how a Common Sub Game gets attacked any differently from any other game.

" Haters gonna hate"

 

 

I dislike this term more than almost any other on this site. It takes someTHING someone said about someTHING.  (GW2 in this example) A thing that is not a personal attachemnt for anyone. At least it shouldn't be for a normal person. This statemnt converts that abck into a PERSONAL attack agasint a poster. Someone criticizes GW2, the fan sees it as an attack, internalizes it makes it personal and responds with an adhominem response. You get this upset over someone dissin your game and you get all persoannly worked up and respond with "Hater"? A video game? Really? Open your eyes, look at the world around you. You don't even know what a real hater is. 

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  RizelStar

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11/02/12 10:24:59 PM#125

Oh I understand why their is a lot of bashing lol.

 

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  AvsRock21

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11/02/12 10:26:54 PM#126
You have to realize that all of the GW2 bashing is being done by the vocal minority. Most people are still enjoying the game, even after two months.  This website represents the vocal minority for not only the games listed here, but also for the entire mmo genre. You can't take everything posted here seriously. 
  Aerowyn

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11/02/12 10:30:18 PM#127
Originally posted by stevebmbsqd
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by stevebmbsqd
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by stevebmbsqd
 

If a ton of people say something....there must be some truth to it.....

yup just like wow is the worst mmo ever made.. see that thrown around here all the time.. MUST be true though

I suppose to a lot of people it must be.....  I wonder how many tens of millions have unsubscribed over the years??????

sure TONS have doesn't stop it from being one of the most popular MMOs ever even after all those years.. point is take anything anyone says here with a grain of salt.. but figured that was a given...

Who doesn't take it with a grain of salt? You...... The game has serious issues for some people. It is perfection for others. No amount of your white knighting is going to change the opinions of the people who dislike it. To them, it is the very core of the game....the mechanics....that they don't like. Does it really matter? Play your game. If you enjoy it...great. There are a lot of people playing it. It isn't a WoW killer, but nobody ever realistically thought it would be. It has a healthy enough population and interests enough people that I am sure it will be around and playable for some time to come.  

lol you have a seriously deluded view of what I feel about the game and how much I care what others feel about it.. but whatever floats your boat..

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  Vhaln

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11/02/12 10:31:32 PM#128
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by xAPOCx

" Haters gonna hate"

You know why I personally despise this term more than almost any other on this site? Because it takes someTHING someone said about someTHING.  (GW2 in this example) A thing that is not a personal attachemnt for anyone. At least it shouldn't be for a normal person. This statemnt converts that abck into a PERSONAL attack agasint a poster. Someone criticizes GW2, the fan sees it as an attack, internalizes it makes it personal and responds with an adhominem response. You get this upset over someone dissin your game and you get all persoannly worked up and respond with "Hater"? A video game? Really? Open your eyes, look at the world around you. You don't even know what a real hater is. 

 

Sometimes, I think its more like just saying everyone's got opinions.  Not to get all worked up over people not liking what you do.

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  thefounder

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Posts: 21

11/02/12 10:35:12 PM#129
Originally posted by Torgrim

GW2 is a AAA product right?

There is plenty of content for everyone?

You are not forced into a roll in a dungeon run?

You are not forced to play in your homeland you can travel and meet up friends right?

Ohh, did I forget to say It's buy and play.

Guild Wars 2 have huge amount of content for players to experince when they buy the game and still this game is attacked from all side like a common sub game.

Why is that?

oh thats it huh? thats your simple formulae for a perfect uncriticisable game huh? a short list of vagueries? AAA, check. "plenty of content", "not forced to play in your homeland" rofl... sorry but i bet a laser pointer on the ground would also capture your attention for hours. seriously, this fails as fanboism. and i hate both, shallow fanboism and obvious trollism, equally.

i think GW2 is definitely worth the box price. will it keep me (and many others) around and buying gems? no. it feels mostly like a solo player casual game and the multiplayer aspect is mostly a messy zerg. and i find almost no reason for a PVE guild to be together other than trivial things like trading dyes and just chatting. I've joined three PVE guilds that advertised themselves as "mature and dedicated and active" all whom started with 25ish players online a night. and in each case they have complained there is not much to do "as a guild". and for the past month, i see maybe an average of 3 online on each guild (altho to be honest i cant verify that 24/7 because i only play about 3 days a week).  personally i think the grinding for cosmetics is pretty shallow after youve done a few dungeon sets. i found exploring the beautiful world the best aspect of the game and im proud to say i won a screenshot contest held by my main guild!! but world events like the dragons are disappointingly easy and the Exp Mode dungeons are more a matter of enduring frustration and mashing buttons than honestly challenging and fun content.. and the delivery of the Lore (and the Lore itself) lacking. its a fluff game. and fluff is fine for a while. but lacks sustained interest for some... some will love it and thats cool. but if youre so shocked and appalled by the wild idea that there are actually players out there that play for different reasons that you, then i guess any further discussion is pointless.

so if you honestly think there are NO areas where GW2 is lacking as either a PVP or a PVE game, then i must conclude that you just havent played many MMOs or not a variety of them. or youre just very easily satisfied and/or your post was blatant fanboism.

 

 

 

  User Deleted
11/02/12 10:37:58 PM#130
Originally posted by Torgrim

GW2 is a AAA product right?

There is plenty of content for everyone?

You are not forced into a roll in a dungeon run?

You are not forced to play in your homeland you can travel and meet up friends right?

Ohh, did I forget to say It's buy and play.

Guild Wars 2 have huge amount of content for players to experince when they buy the game and still this game is attacked from all side like a common sub game.

Why is that?

The same reason why people hate on things like: Walmart, Nickelback, Wall St, and Starbucks.  A large segment of the population just hate anything successful and popular.

  KingJiggly

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Definition for innovation is below. Your welcome.

11/02/12 10:39:31 PM#131
Aliens. Just aliens.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/innovation

  stevebmbsqd

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Joined: 9/26/09
Posts: 457

"Evolution thru Revolution"

11/02/12 10:39:56 PM#132
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by stevebmbsqd
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by stevebmbsqd
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by stevebmbsqd
 

If a ton of people say something....there must be some truth to it.....

yup just like wow is the worst mmo ever made.. see that thrown around here all the time.. MUST be true though

I suppose to a lot of people it must be.....  I wonder how many tens of millions have unsubscribed over the years??????

sure TONS have doesn't stop it from being one of the most popular MMOs ever even after all those years.. point is take anything anyone says here with a grain of salt.. but figured that was a given...

Who doesn't take it with a grain of salt? You...... The game has serious issues for some people. It is perfection for others. No amount of your white knighting is going to change the opinions of the people who dislike it. To them, it is the very core of the game....the mechanics....that they don't like. Does it really matter? Play your game. If you enjoy it...great. There are a lot of people playing it. It isn't a WoW killer, but nobody ever realistically thought it would be. It has a healthy enough population and interests enough people that I am sure it will be around and playable for some time to come.  

lol you have a seriously deluded view of what I feel about the game and how much I care what others feel about it.. but whatever floats your boat..

I can't be too far off base....... 

  User Deleted
11/02/12 10:42:19 PM#133
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by xAPOCx
Originally posted by Ridelynn

I think the saying goes
A hater's gotta hate
But I'm not from the streets, so I'm not sure about that

Also - I don't how a Common Sub Game gets attacked any differently from any other game.

" Haters gonna hate"

 

 

I dislike this term more than almost any other on this site. It takes someTHING someone said about someTHING.  (GW2 in this example) A thing that is not a personal attachemnt for anyone. At least it shouldn't be for a normal person. This statemnt converts that abck into a PERSONAL attack agasint a poster. Someone criticizes GW2, the fan sees it as an attack, internalizes it makes it personal and responds with an adhominem response. You get this upset over someone dissin your game and you get all persoannly worked up and respond with "Hater"? A video game? Really? Open your eyes, look at the world around you. You don't even know what a real hater is. 

Simply put theres an old adage my Mom used to tell me:  "If you dont have anything nice to say about someone or something, then dont open your mouth".

 

Pretty simple rules that most grew up with but with the advent of anonimity o nthe Net, there is a large segment who thin kits their god given right to complain, bitch and hate on anything they dont like.  Ohh what would the net be like if each of our posts also included our home phone number, street address, work place, and real name.  I guaren-damn-tee you there would be a whole lot less of this hate going around.

  Aerowyn

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Posts: 7969

11/02/12 10:43:40 PM#134
Originally posted by stevebmbsqd
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by stevebmbsqd
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by stevebmbsqd
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by stevebmbsqd
 

If a ton of people say something....there must be some truth to it.....

yup just like wow is the worst mmo ever made.. see that thrown around here all the time.. MUST be true though

I suppose to a lot of people it must be.....  I wonder how many tens of millions have unsubscribed over the years??????

sure TONS have doesn't stop it from being one of the most popular MMOs ever even after all those years.. point is take anything anyone says here with a grain of salt.. but figured that was a given...

Who doesn't take it with a grain of salt? You...... The game has serious issues for some people. It is perfection for others. No amount of your white knighting is going to change the opinions of the people who dislike it. To them, it is the very core of the game....the mechanics....that they don't like. Does it really matter? Play your game. If you enjoy it...great. There are a lot of people playing it. It isn't a WoW killer, but nobody ever realistically thought it would be. It has a healthy enough population and interests enough people that I am sure it will be around and playable for some time to come.  

lol you have a seriously deluded view of what I feel about the game and how much I care what others feel about it.. but whatever floats your boat..

I can't be too far off base....... 

believe what you want

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  Drakynn

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Joined: 3/02/08
Posts: 2051

11/02/12 10:43:46 PM#135

What's to get?All I see is SOP on this site.

Every new game ahs thwe worst community/fanbois.

Every new game get's ripped a new one by a segment of people.

Every new game has rabid fans who can't take criticism of any kind

All I see is the same old same old that has been happenign here since near the beginning and as much as I am still enjoying GW2 I don't see why it should be exempt.

  User Deleted
11/02/12 10:44:57 PM#136
Originally posted by mnwild1998
Originally posted by Zylaxx
Originally posted by Torgrim

GW2 is a AAA product right?

There is plenty of content for everyone?

You are not forced into a roll in a dungeon run?

You are not forced to play in your homeland you can travel and meet up friends right?

Ohh, did I forget to say It's buy and play.

Guild Wars 2 have huge amount of content for players to experince when they buy the game and still this game is attacked from all side like a common sub game.

Why is that?

The same reason why people hate on things like: Walmart, Nickelback, Wall St, and Starbucks.  A large segment of the population just hate anything successful and popular.

 

Lmao GW2 does not have a large segment of the mmo population. I hope this was joke because it was a very sad attempt.

2 million sales, high retention rate. top 10 in sales on Amazon, every server being high and 8-9 of them being full, a plethora of high praise from everyone from PCgaming to Forbes Magazine.

 

Yea, I think I'll trust my eyes and ears more then a haters poor attempt at trying to describe a false narrative.

  darkhalf357x

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I'm only playing the role chosen for me. Who you supposed to be?

11/02/12 10:48:56 PM#137
Originally posted by Torgrim

GW2 is a AAA product right?

There is plenty of content for everyone?

You are not forced into a roll in a dungeon run?

You are not forced to play in your homeland you can travel and meet up friends right?

Ohh, did I forget to say It's buy and play.

Guild Wars 2 have huge amount of content for players to experince when they buy the game and still this game is attacked from all side like a common sub game.

Why is that?

Depends if you consider disagreement as hating or not.  GW2 does have a bunch of content but it is all similiar.  I got bored with vistas. DEs and exploration.  I wanted to have the ability to do more. But that's not what the game is about.  I have no house to place my items.  Though could still come.  No progression of my experience which takes away from core RPG elements.  But then again people who enjoy GW2 didn't want that to begin with.

GW2 is a great game - but its not for everyone.  If you look at things a different way and view what you consider 'hate' as a disagreement it might help you see the another persons perspective which may be wildly different from yours.

  bcbully

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11/02/12 10:55:29 PM#138
You reap what you sow.

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  User Deleted
11/02/12 11:06:38 PM#139
Originally posted by Torgrim

GW2 is a AAA product right?

That's debatable.

There is plenty of content for everyone?

Only if you take into account mindless, repetitive dynamic even....um, I mean zergs.

You are not forced into a roll in a dungeon run?

I'd welcome anything to spice up that instanced game of dodgeball that passes as a dungeon in GW2.

You are not forced to play in your homeland you can travel and meet up friends right?

You mean like every other MMO in existence? Not special.

Ohh, did I forget to say It's buy and play.

So, getting conned into paying up front for a sub-standard product is a selling point?

Guild Wars 2 have huge amount of content for players to experince when they buy the game and still this game is attacked from all side like a common sub game.

Why is that?

It's a terrible game for many? There are better P2P games? Not everyone shares your opinion?

BTW, GW2 is about as "common" as they come; it's not limited to sub games.

 

  User Deleted
11/03/12 1:38:45 AM#140
Originally posted by grimgryphon
Originally posted by Torgrim

GW2 is a AAA product right?

That's debatable.

There is plenty of content for everyone?

Only if you take into account mindless, repetitive dynamic even....um, I mean zergs.

You are not forced into a roll in a dungeon run?

I'd welcome anything to spice up that instanced game of dodgeball that passes as a dungeon in GW2.

You are not forced to play in your homeland you can travel and meet up friends right?

You mean like every other MMO in existence? Not special.

Ohh, did I forget to say It's buy and play.

So, getting conned into paying up front for a sub-standard product is a selling point?

Guild Wars 2 have huge amount of content for players to experince when they buy the game and still this game is attacked from all side like a common sub game.

Why is that?

It's a terrible game for many? There are better P2P games? Not everyone shares your opinion?

BTW, GW2 is about as "common" as they come; it's not limited to sub games.

 

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