Good to see you made your account just to post this.

Anyway, Trion is basically backing up what Buttler is saying with the release of Storm Legion. There's two new continents and a lot more content to follow that will give subscribers much to explore and give Trion time to develop more content.

Depending on how it's received and when my friends get the expansion, I may actually resub.

There were many layoffs today and there are expected to be more tomorrow. There is an emergency meeting scheduled for tomorrow morning and it is mandatory that everyone attend. In my experience, those never go well. 

And yes, this is a throwaway account. 

Im going to say this is probably true and the op is one of those laid off, simply because it would be a stupid thing to lie about.  If someone wanted to spread rumours to hurt a game they wouldnt have picked one that will be well known as a lie shortly if it is one.

And if it is true, then its funny the op singled out the quotes on SWTOR, where the quotes about 38 studios are much more relevant.  *if* this is true and Trion did have to lay people off, it would most likely be because of too many projects at once with only one (fairly small) revenue stream

Originally posted by strangiato2112

Im going to say this is probably true and the op is one of those laid off, simply because it would be a stupid thing to lie about.  If someone wanted to spread rumours to hurt a game they wouldnt have picked one that will be well known as a lie shortly if it is one.

 

And if it is true, then its funny the op singled out the quotes on SWTOR, where the quotes about 38 studios are much more relevant.  *if* this is true and Trion did have to lay people off, it would most likely be because of too many projects at once with only one (fairly small) revenue stream

Someone is keen. But, I wasn't one of those laid off, hence the throwaway. I'd prefer not to be.

Understand that I don't have a bad thing to say about anyone here, or the company, but some very bad decisions are being made as of late, and some very good people were let go.

Also, please understand that I won't be able to discuss anything said in the meeting, as that will most definitely be confidential.

Originally posted by mudcakes

Originally posted by strangiato2112

Im going to say this is probably true and the op is one of those laid off, simply because it would be a stupid thing to lie about.  If someone wanted to spread rumours to hurt a game they wouldnt have picked one that will be well known as a lie shortly if it is one.

 

And if it is true, then its funny the op singled out the quotes on SWTOR, where the quotes about 38 studios are much more relevant.  *if* this is true and Trion did have to lay people off, it would most likely be because of too many projects at once with only one (fairly small) revenue stream

Someone is keen. But, I wasn't one of those laid off, hence the throwaway. I'd prefer not to be.

The meeting in 20 mins is certainly a damage control meeting. It will either be a magical spin job or they will try to keep it from getting out at all. My estimation is that they will try to say something in the realm of the layoffs just being customer support, or standard consolidation before a major expansion. It will also be to boost the morale of everyone left. It will be something to make it sound good, but layoffs never are. 

Understand that I don't have a bad thing to say about anyone here, or the company, but some very bad decisions are being made as of late, and some very good people were let go.

Also, please understand that I won't be able to discuss anything said in the meeting, as that will most definitely be confidential.

Trion trying to pull off a magical spin job?  No way...

After re-reading Buttler's comments, it was really using SWTOR layoffs as an excuse to hype his product which is extremely distasteful.  

Sorry for your friends and co-workers that lost their jobs.  Im thinking having Trion on their resume will help them land new jobs soon.  Good luck to all of them, and the current employees going forward.

Originally posted by Crazy_Stick
Entertaining? IDK man, to me it's sad really. With the state of the industry right now, I wish I knew of one MMORPG company outside of Blizzard that i could point at and write with confidence that they are doing well.  I may not have enjoyed RIFT but I respect it and what Trion tried to do with the game. I keep rooting for them (and hope they never use the term "wow killer" for a game again")  but if your forewarning is true then it is what it is. Even CCP is sinking with DUST.

Turbine. May not seem like it but their profits skyrocketed once they implement their F2P model.

Originally posted by menrin

Originally posted by Crazy_Stick
Entertaining? IDK man, to me it's sad really. With the state of the industry right now, I wish I knew of one MMORPG company outside of Blizzard that i could point at and write with confidence that they are doing well.  I may not have enjoyed RIFT but I respect it and what Trion tried to do with the game. I keep rooting for them (and hope they never use the term "wow killer" for a game again")  but if your forewarning is true then it is what it is. Even CCP is sinking with DUST.

Turbine. May not seem like it but their profits skyrocketed once they implement their F2P model.

temporarily.  Its been a while since then.  I seriously doubt they are dong 'well', but probably enough to get by.

With SoE expanding staff on their games and a fairly big project due out soon they seem to be back on track and probably better off than Turbine, but i wouldnt say they are doing well either.

Originally posted by menrin

Originally posted by Crazy_Stick
Entertaining? IDK man, to me it's sad really. With the state of the industry right now, I wish I knew of one MMORPG company outside of Blizzard that i could point at and write with confidence that they are doing well.  I may not have enjoyed RIFT but I respect it and what Trion tried to do with the game. I keep rooting for them (and hope they never use the term "wow killer" for a game again")  but if your forewarning is true then it is what it is. Even CCP is sinking with DUST.

Turbine. May not seem like it but their profits skyrocketed once they implement their F2P model.

Turbine just had layoffs right before Trion.

You guys know this is what companys do right ?  [mod edit]

When you decide the staffing for a new project or expansion to an existing game you obviously have to hire outside people to come in and do some of the work.  Well what happens when that new project is done ?  Them outside people are no longer needed and get LAYED OFF.   It's how the business works you can spend your entire career working in it and never stay with one company.

Oh and OP if you're indeed a trion employee you think making a throw away account makes you safe ?  Trion and this site have a business relationship you have 0 privacy rights if trion wanted your account info IP/Email etc this site would give it to them.

Originally posted by William12

 

 

When you decide the staffing for a new project or expansion to an existing game you obviously have to hire outside people to come in and do some of the work.  Well what happens when that new project is done ?  Them outside people are no longer needed and get LAYED OFF.   It's how the business works you can spend your entire career working in it and never stay with one company.

 

Um, no thats not how it works.  When your expansion team is done with the expansion guess what?  they start on the next one.  

Originally posted by strangiato2112

Originally posted by William12

 

 

When you decide the staffing for a new project or expansion to an existing game you obviously have to hire outside people to come in and do some of the work.  Well what happens when that new project is done ?  Them outside people are no longer needed and get LAYED OFF.   It's how the business works you can spend your entire career working in it and never stay with one company.

 

Um, no thats not how it works.  When your expansion team is done with the expansion guess what?  they start on the next one.  

so,  Rift has more recent planned expac's?

Originally posted by strangiato2112

Originally posted by William12

 

 

When you decide the staffing for a new project or expansion to an existing game you obviously have to hire outside people to come in and do some of the work.  Well what happens when that new project is done ?  Them outside people are no longer needed and get LAYED OFF.   It's how the business works you can spend your entire career working in it and never stay with one company.

 

Um, no thats not how it works.  When your expansion team is done with the expansion guess what?  they start on the next one.  

many people are contracted in for certain periods of time or until directed work is finished.. etc

Originally posted by William12

You guys know this is what companys do right ?  [mod edit]

When you decide the staffing for a new project or expansion to an existing game you obviously have to hire outside people to come in and do some of the work.  Well what happens when that new project is done ?  Them outside people are no longer needed and get LAYED OFF.   It's how the business works you can spend your entire career working in it and never stay with one company.

 

Oh and OP if you're indeed a trion employee you think making a throw away account makes you safe ?  Trion and this site have a business relationship you have 0 privacy rights if trion wanted your account info IP/Email etc this site would give it to them.

Which is why you set up this account with a throwaway email account.