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  Torvaldr

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11/01/12 10:29:52 PM#41

Hmm, I'm pretty stoked about the movie possibilities.  Disney has made some awesome movies in the last decade.  I think Steven Spielberg, Peter Jackson, and Kathleen Kennedy would make an awesome team for Star Wars movies.  They each have an impressive list of credits and I really like what they did together with TinTin.

Disney and games doesn't have me so excited.  Disney kind of sucks at online gaming.  They don't seem to get it any better than Warner does.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  CyclopsSlayer

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11/02/12 3:20:11 AM#42

Lucas went out of his way to murder the SW IP, what Disney might do couldn't be any worse than Jar Jar Binks, the Ewok TV specials, and constant re-editing of the series. (Han Shot First!)

 

So now we have a chance to see a new take on the universe, and even if devolves to an Ewok vs. Wookie dance off, can that be any worse than the drivel Lucas came up with in the past decade?

  Caldrin

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11/02/12 4:02:21 AM#43
Really looking forward to seeing what Disney can do with the star wars IP.. over the last few years they have been behind some really great films and not just cartoons..
 

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  Calerxes

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11/02/12 4:55:03 AM#44
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Dward127
this is the death of  the old star wars and the birth of the new cartoony version of star wars. wonder if they will reboot  the whole universe where  anakin  skywalker never became darth vader and the old republic never fell to the emperor.

lol do people even know what disney does nowadays? aparently not... disney is the best thing that has happened to Marvel movies in.. well... ever

 

Disney bought Marvel in August 2009 so really haven't had a hand in any of their films up to now as most were planned before that date, comic forums were talking about the Avengers film years ago, It was the fact that Marvel had undertaken the making of the films themselves rather than license them out to other films studio's that made the company worth the 4bn that Disney paid. Its only the films over the next few years that will have a Disney hand in them if any at all I don't know how Disney run their subsidaries. Also Marvel films had been very successful for many years and because of the success of Spiderman in the early 00's Marvel decided to set up their own film studio. So no-one really knows what Disney has planned for Marvel or Lucasfilm/Arts in the next few years really. 

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  FastTx

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11/02/12 5:01:33 AM#45
Originally posted by elocke
I can see this:  a Kingdom Hearts MMORPG with Disney, Marvel, Final Fantasy and Star Wars worlds and characters, holy crap!!!!!! IP gasm!

I'm guilty of hoping for the same thing too. I can imagine a Disney KH MMO being the ultimate themepark MMO experience. I mean, they are what you think of when you think "Themepark". I can imagine the variety, one raid you are doing a little mermaid dungeon, then you are doing a space shooter raid fighting tie fighters, then the next minute you are with the avengers saving the world.

 

Ultimate virtual themepark here we come? *fingers crossed*

  Ozmodan

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11/02/12 6:15:39 AM#46

Can't be anything but good.  George was not going to make any more films, and the last three were not that good anyways.

Secondly, Lucas Arts is clueless when it comes to the MMO industry, they were responsible for destroying SWG and look at SWTOR, it is basically a single player game with multiplayer aspects, probably the worst example of how not to design a MMO.  Of course hard to know who was more responsible for that mess, Bioware or Lucas Arts, but you have to know they had a hand in it.

  Xthos

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11/02/12 6:19:58 AM#47

Lucas is being retained......So bad judgement/things will still be happening.

 

  thrasher1991

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11/02/12 6:44:11 AM#48
wait what?!
  Agent_Joseph

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11/02/12 7:35:33 AM#49
what is era beegining in SW universe now?...sith ot jedi?

only EVE is real MMO...but I am impressive with TSW

  Timassin

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11/02/12 7:49:18 AM#50
Achesoma you should check out the repopulation. It's basically a recreation of swg coming out in 2014 probably
  rwyan

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11/02/12 9:23:40 AM#51

All that is Lucas has always been rumored to be extremely protective of the Star Wars IP, especially in regards to licensed games.

 

I do wonder how this will impact how Bioware's treats the license going forward.  If Bioware was previously heavily constrained before... will Disney loosen things up a bit?  If so, will that help Bioware turn SW:TOR into an even better game (I do believe SW:TOR is a great game but was just 2-3 years too late)?

 
 
  necrostein

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11/02/12 9:24:17 AM#52

Two small points.

first, cartoon network already did the cartoony version of star wars, and have a large established merch catalogue with those looks. we wont likely see a new cartoony SW.

Disney has also made things in exactly the same maturity point. (Marvel aside) Pirates of the C anyone? So any concerns that "all they do is kid stuff" is pretty unfounded. the skeleton crew of the first pirates movie is Not mickey mouse.

 

and for a bonus, it means that there are two disney princesses for my daughter to want to become,

 

  Wizardry

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Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

11/02/12 9:48:53 AM#53

Easy sell,Star Wars is no longer growing,it is a market that will slowly die out.The cost of trying to m,aintain it's stardom would be astronomical,one bad image be it fro ma game or movie and the franchise takes a huge dive.

At one time,way back in the Star Wars days there were very few marketable big name franchises,now there are a ton.Even more so i think marketing will shift from one to another,the long time staying power that SW's had will no longer be the norm.One year it might be the Shrek wave,the next it is the Pandaran wave ect ect.

27 billion perhaps is not really that big a number considering how long Star wars has been around,but all indications are that the franchise is dying at a rate faster than 100%.It's last movie and other sales were actually quite low,imo borderline profit.

What catches my eye is the numbers in many areas seem rather low,that tells me there has been a ton of black market items being sold off as original,i am sure this has cost Lucas tons more,probably in the billions.

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  Liltawen

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11/02/12 10:00:05 AM#54
Maybe Disney will just buy SWTOR from EA.
  Torvaldr

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11/02/12 10:03:43 AM#55
In news yesterday, Lucas is donating most of the $4Bn to charity.  He will be retained as a consultant, but how that is worded is extremely vague and open.  Kathleen Kennedy will likely be the most influential voice and that's probably a really good thing.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  Presbytier

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11/02/12 12:58:59 PM#56
Originally posted by TheCrow2k

New films dunno who they would get to wrote them but hopefully Spielberg to direct.

 

SWTOR was/is a farce, there is really no saving it since the foundation is so poorly constructed. Given the money spent on SWTOR and the poor returns I would say it sill live a while longer but dont expect any new Star Wars MMO projects any time soon and certainly nothing on this financial scale. Instead maybe we will see some more Single player Star Wars Games.

Or maybe Disney roll all their IP's into one MMO project, World of Disney anyone ?

 

The foundation was and is solid, it is a well designed game and the mountain of awards and praise from game journalist shows this.Over 3 million copies were sold. That is most certainly not a poor return in PC game sales. They kept over a million subscribers over three months past launch. Sure it has dipped below that now, but it still is second place as far as subscription based MMOs go. The real problem with SWTOR was their ambitious bussiness model; for some cockamany reason EA and the powers that be felt they could compete with WoW in subscription numbers, so by tying themselves to a sub model they essential shot themselves in the foot, leg, thigh, and back. The market has demonstrated that it is unwilling to allow another sub based game to exist at the same level as WoW. The F2P model will significantly boost their numbers; unfortunately the damage is already done as far as the internet is concerned even though SWTOR is one of the most highly populated MMORPGs out there.

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  Ozmodan

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11/02/12 1:01:33 PM#57
Originally posted by Timassin
Achesoma you should check out the repopulation. It's basically a recreation of swg coming out in 2014 probably

Either you never played SWG or you do have not read much about the repopulation.  It is nothing even close to what SWG was.

  Konfess

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11/02/12 2:52:04 PM#58
Disney also has Touchstone Pictures and Miramax Films under its wings. If you think about it “Pulp Fiction” by Miramax was a Disney film, as I see it. True I don’t expect the Star Wars IP to be under the control of Miramax production, but maybe Touchstone. You can look up the list of Touchstone movies if you want, but they are good. And by association they are Disney properties.

Pirates of the Caribbean Online didn’t do so well as a subscription MMO. But I remain confident that a new Star Wars MMO can succeed, if done right. But what right is, I can not say. Is it a tab targeting, theme park, with more than 10 trinity based classes? I think so, and I believe if done right it will be a success.

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  Theocritus

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11/02/12 2:55:56 PM#59
     Star Wars has pretty much been a non factor for 20+ years.....IF I were GL I'd take the 4 billion too.
  Konfess

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11/02/12 3:16:38 PM#60
Originally posted by Ozmodan
Originally posted by Timassin
Achesoma you should check out the repopulation. It's basically a recreation of swg coming out in 2014 probably

Either you never played SWG or you do have not read much about the repopulation.  It is nothing even close to what SWG was.

The repopulation is a Sci-Fi skills based rpg MMO, with housing and crafting. That alone sounds like SWG to many people. I also have not played it, but from what I have read and seen it is a single open world. That alone makes it nothing like SWG. My point is you are both right. There are some feature that are similar enough to remind some of SWG. While other feature are somewhat different from SWG.

I don’t expect the gear and crafting to be identical to SWG. But even Galaxies had a socket based modification system similar to The RePop. The Mayoral system sounds more involved than what it was in SWG. The custom quest system and NPCs remembering player actions. Are all new, but many will see The RePop as a SWG 3.0 if it was allowed to grow and evolve.

I wish The RePop folks good luck and hope for the best. BTW the fps combat system sounds too much like the CU/NGE to me.

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