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  Ridan477

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Joined: 5/07/12
Posts: 48

"My names Commander Shepard and this is my favorite site on the internet" - Commander Shepard

11/02/12 4:24:16 AM#21

I unsubbed originally due to my own burnt out ness with the gear treadmill. Especially in pvp, its hard now looking at it from post gw2 eyes to imagine not just jumping into pvp and being viable. Loved pvp in swtor but because I was the leader of a guild i mainly did PvE content so I was not geared with the best pvp stuff. When i would do the 3... pvp warzones i would get womped on by those with more resolve or w/e. I really think they missed a chance big time with illum... If it could have been a little more like WvW or something it would have been awesome. Idk i mean gw2 launched with 4 sPvP maps and a fully functional WvW system... Swtor gets launched with a stellar 1-50 lvling experience, 3 Warzones, and a broken Illum. I really loved Swtor from 1-50 thought it had so much potential. Once you hit 50 and the emerision wears off you realize the endgame is in no way unique.

I was hoping for a serious war between the empire and the republic where every plannet was being fought over with PvP capture points. Guild Warships that could drop troops into battle from above. I mean its freaking Star Wars! So much potential! Bioware just put to many eggs in one basket with the VO and from what i here had terrible leadership design wise. Lets hope f2p can pump in some money and give them the resources they need to make the changes necessary to end game. Just releasing new raids is not gonna do it...at least for me.

Scoobin it up on the daily.

  JoeyMMO

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Joined: 10/09/11
Posts: 1334

To busy playing GW2 to post much around here... *shrug*

11/02/12 4:31:47 AM#22
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
*snip*
I am completely immersed in the story when I play...
*snip* 

Immersion kind of failed for me since they introduced the "healer classes" in Star Wars. Is there anything in the books about smuggler type classes that have some device that heals others while they fight? Not that I know of, then again I don't own every single book about Star Wars. Dark side and light side choices just leading to cosmetic differences and having no effect whatsoever on Force powers is totally not Star Wars.

That totally destroyed the whole Star Wars feeling to me, when it comes to the characters at least. The environments are well done even if it means you'll be running down corridors a lot.

If you're enjoying the game, that's all that matters. I had the feeling that this game was basically a bad WoW clone in a SW world. The Faction choice, the classes, all to fit the WoW model and all against what Star Wars is about. I never had a feeling of immersion, just playing the stories for a subscription. Needless to say it didn't last long.

  Karteli

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Joined: 7/09/12
Posts: 2704

11/02/12 4:45:23 AM#23
Originally posted by JoeyMMO
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
*snip*
I am completely immersed in the story when I play...
*snip* 

Immersion kind of failed for me since they introduced the "healer classes" in Star Wars. Is there anything in the books about smuggler type classes that have some device that heals others while they fight? Not that I know of, then again I don't own every single book about Star Wars. Dark side and light side choices just leading to cosmetic differences and having no effect whatsoever on Force powers is totally not Star Wars.

That totally destroyed the whole Star Wars feeling to me, when it comes to the characters at least. The environments are well done even if it means you'll be running down corridors a lot.

If you're enjoying the game, that's all that matters. I had the feeling that this game was basically a bad WoW clone in a SW world. The Faction choice, the classes, all to fit the WoW model and all against what Star Wars is about. I never had a feeling of immersion, just playing the stories for a subscription. Needless to say it didn't last long.

Well good..  I guess.

 

Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  tiefighter25

Novice Member

Joined: 7/30/12
Posts: 949

11/02/12 4:49:39 AM#24

I enjoyed the KOTOR games as much as I could enjoy an SPRPG. The one thing I picked up on the KOTOR series, and thought they really dropped the ball on with the SWTOR game, was Mandalorians as a third faction.

Then again, as Ilum proved, the engine couldn't handle RvR let alone WvWvW.

That aside, it would have been nice to been a Mandalorian bounty hunter, not some mirrored class, heat monitoring,  hybrid thingy.

 

(and I agree, healing classes in the SWTOR universe was pants on head.)

  Karteli

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Joined: 7/09/12
Posts: 2704

11/02/12 4:58:06 AM#25
Originally posted by tiefighter25

I enjoyed the KOTOR games as much as I could enjoy an SPRPG. The one thing I picked up on the KOTOR series, and thought they really dropped the ball on with the SWTOR game, was Mandalorians as a third faction.

Then again, as Ilum proved, the engine couldn't handle RvR let alone WvWvW.

That aside, it would have been nice to been a Mandalorian bounty hunter, not some mirrored class, heat monitoring,  hybrid thingy.

 

(and I agree, healing classes in the SWTOR universe was pants on head.)

Well, Illum cant prove anything...  <JAN 2013> fizzle .. .. No Gabe wasn't there so it flopped.

Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  tiefighter25

Novice Member

Joined: 7/30/12
Posts: 949

11/02/12 5:13:14 AM#26
You're talking about the Gabe mentioned Ilum anniversary thing? I guess don't hold your breath. Alterac Valley is light years ahead of Ilum, calling from 2005 to 2011/12/13.
  superniceguy

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Joined: 2/17/07
Posts: 2278

NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

11/02/12 5:33:20 AM#27

I did not vote as both applies. I am currently subbed and intend to be subbed for one last time. Hopefully F2P will come before I need to sub again, and then I will not sub again. If the game was not going F2P I probably would sub from time to time

I will not be playing SWTOR when it goes F2P within the first few months, as it will probably be manic, but I do not think the game will last. People will flock to it Nov-Jan, and then be done with it.

With SWG I was subbed from July 2003 to Sep(the date of last sub)/Dec 2011 with at least one account.

 

  kabitoshin

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/16/12
Posts: 731

11/02/12 5:38:59 AM#28
In my opinion this game was great story wise cause I loved ToR 1 & 2. But when I reached cap and played the endgame wasn't just much fun, just felt like a mediocre themepark at best. But I am looking forward to F2P cause I want to see the bounty hunters story line.
  Cod_Eye

Hard Core Member

Joined: 9/04/09
Posts: 1026

11/02/12 5:39:07 AM#29
I unsubbed after the first month, the lack of journey and the lack of any depth of the game decided that for me.  There was also a lot of other issues thats already been mentioned in this thread, the only thing that I can honestly say I enjoyed was Hutball.
  moguy2

Novice Member

Joined: 9/20/12
Posts: 364

Wish I had something positive to say =(

11/02/12 5:46:40 AM#30

I think all this has been said before. Its just a shame that the people, that actually have a huge role in changing the game, dont  read this website.

As for them " Hearing what the player wants " . They just updated the graphics shades. But, um, didnt fix any other problem that everyone is talking about. . Which is why I wont pay to play or play for free at all. It's like a constant train wreck out in the middle of no where and, even if its free, its still a constant train wreck .

  LoverNoFighter

Novice Member

Joined: 9/05/12
Posts: 334

SWG pre cu > all

11/02/12 5:53:19 AM#31

I thought SWTOR was gonna be a great game. I was wrong. It's mediocre.

Got my BH to 50 and stopped playing. Started levelling some alts but got sick of the grind.

Haven't played for 6 months and probably won't be playing in the furture either.

Waiting for The Repopulation MMO.

  bubaluba

Novice Member

Joined: 7/23/12
Posts: 464

11/02/12 5:58:42 AM#32
Originally posted by cura
I unsubscribed due to shit engine performance (and lack of acknowledgment of the probelm by devs), no open world pvp and lack of chat bubbles (i saw two times more RP in a month of GW2 then in four months of SWTOR, lol). 

You joke right??? There is role play and story in GW2??? trololo

  Torgrim

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Joined: 12/15/05
Posts: 2179

11/02/12 7:07:35 AM#33
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Subbed and wil continue. Playing every day for couple hours and enjoying. Still have enourmous amount of content to go through so I don't see myself bored anytime soon.

 

I play way too much :).

Probably close to 250 hours a month as my weekends are usually 8-10 h marathons in addition to 3-4 h on weekdays.

 

This dosent make any sense at all.

TOR dosent have that much content.

If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  Yakamomoto

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/24/12
Posts: 385

 
OP  11/02/12 8:18:55 AM#34

Combined with that other poll, I´d say there will be tons of re-subs when the space revamp hits. If it´s done right.

I really hope they are doing it right... Star Citizen style..

  Karteli

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Joined: 7/09/12
Posts: 2704

11/02/12 8:28:05 AM#35
Originally posted by Yakamomoto

Combined with that other poll, I´d say there will be tons of re-subs when the space revamp hits. If it´s done right.

I really hope they are doing it right... Star Citizen style..

What space revamp?

 

Star Citizen will be out before any meaningful space game comes out for SWTOR.  Just sayin.

Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  User Deleted
11/02/12 8:48:56 AM#36

I just don't get some people's logic in supporting this game AGAIN. didn't they learn their lesson the first time?

So basically they are keeping the game exactly the same except this time they will be preventing you from seeing content if you're not paying, EVEN if you are a returning player. Uhm how is that in any way better or how is that in any way a "free" anything? It's like returning to an even poorer rendition of WoW then WoW actually is (because of how WoW cuts off content to casual players) but playing the poorer rendition because it's spaceage.

How is this a better option please someone explain it to me because being able to login and send /tells to people who might be checking it out a second time (notably to see if their disappointment was justified the first time, and it was) I just can't fathom how that would be in any way a good idea. Guess I'm getting more cynical in my old age I dunno.

  Cod_Eye

Hard Core Member

Joined: 9/04/09
Posts: 1026

11/02/12 9:29:50 AM#37

I took the plunge and resubbed for a month, wish  hadnt bothered, though there was a suprising number of players in the starter zones, but I guess that is due to the f2p to lvl 15.   Went to capital fleet station and was met with silence on various topics, guess players are not to social in general chat.

 

  Icewhite

Made History

Joined: 7/11/11
Posts: 6495

Pink, it's like red but not quite.

11/02/12 9:32:02 AM#38
Originally posted by Yakamomoto
Interested in the results...

Er...can it not be a combination of the second two?  Gameplay AND subscription?

Do people really leave games over single issues? (I know, I know, "gameplay" is a multi-issue thang by definition.  Just add "and wanted to drop a sub fee" to the end of the multi-page "gameplay" rant).

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  halflife25

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Joined: 9/13/12
Posts: 787

11/02/12 9:37:08 AM#39
Monthly fee is no issue for me. I never got a chance to play the game extensively. So i am going to subscribe and finish atleast couple of more storylines. I actually enjoyed PVP in SWTOR so let us see how it goes this time.
  Sevenstar61

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Joined: 7/22/12
Posts: 1676

"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words

11/02/12 10:54:24 AM#40
Originally posted by Torgrim
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Subbed and wil continue. Playing every day for couple hours and enjoying. Still have enourmous amount of content to go through so I don't see myself bored anytime soon.

 

I play way too much :).

Probably close to 250 hours a month as my weekends are usually 8-10 h marathons in addition to 3-4 h on weekdays.

 

This dosent make any sense at all.

TOR dosent have that much content.

TOR has more content that you guys are giving it credit for. And because of the DS and LS choices and differences in quests for  females vs males or solo vs group  it makes it for me the most replayable MMO from  the ones I played.

It's my opinion of course, but as altoholic - I leveled alts in all games I played (6 level 90 toons in EQ2, I could not make myself to level toons aside of Minstrel (65) in LOTRO to higher level then 35 - the grind was unbearable) and none of them gave me as much fun in re-leveling as SWTOR. I have right now 7 characters level 50, excluding one level 50 Juggernaut  that I deleted as I did not like the way she looked /grin. Still plenty alts waiting patiently for their turn.

I also think that the way how they introduced healers in SWTOR is awesome. You CAN be a healer but you DON"T HAVE to, or you can be a healer just when you need. Sorcerer can be the best healer or the best DPS.  Operative and Mercenary can dish very decent DPS as well. With the coming change in 1.5 allowing subscribers unlimited respec for free - change of specs will be unlimited.

I always played healers in all MMOs I played, but in SWTOR my absolute favorites are Assasin and Juggernaut - both in tank spec and both males. Go figure LOL. I deleted female Juggernaut as I really did not feel that female is enough powerful physically to be believable character. Once I switched to male everything clicked in. It was like perfect match. Beside, Sith warrior's voice over is the best in game imo.

 


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