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OP  11/01/12 9:19:26 PM#1
I dont think its out of the bounds of possibility . Maybe not in the short term but in the long term certainly .
  Toxia

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11/01/12 9:25:03 PM#2

Don't see it happening personally.

Blizzard, besides WoW(which, by the time they'd sell it, would be dead) has nothing.

Maybe if Titan is as big of a success as Wow...then maybe.

But i think blizzard is down and out after wow personally.

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  zymurgeist

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11/01/12 9:25:53 PM#3
Originally posted by roo67
I dont think its out of the bounds of possibility . Maybe not in the short term but in the long term certainly .

 Not unless they can scrape up 20 billion or so. That and make Bobby Kotick head of Disney.

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  dorugu

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11/01/12 9:27:06 PM#4

only time will tell if tht happens or not :)

but hope not we need  more diversity we wont get tht chance if 1 company owns evrything :)

as of  now we can vote w our wallets if disney or any other company  owns all mmos we cant :)

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OP  11/01/12 10:03:24 PM#5
Originally posted by zymurgeist
Originally posted by roo67
I dont think its out of the bounds of possibility . Maybe not in the short term but in the long term certainly .

 Not unless they can scrape up 20 billion or so. That and make Bobby Kotick head of Disney.

Given Blizzard make apparently about 900 million dollars a year and disney make around 35 billion it wouldnt be out of the bounds of possibility they would pay maybe 5-6 billion at present but a lot depends on how Blizzard continues to perform in several years if it is not doing as well it is now then they could pay 4 billion which is what they paid for Marvel and StarWars .

  aRtFuLThinG

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11/02/12 12:22:32 AM#6
Originally posted by roo67
Originally posted by zymurgeist
Originally posted by roo67
I dont think its out of the bounds of possibility . Maybe not in the short term but in the long term certainly .

 Not unless they can scrape up 20 billion or so. That and make Bobby Kotick head of Disney.

Given Blizzard make apparently about 900 million dollars a year and disney make around 35 billion it wouldnt be out of the bounds of possibility they would pay maybe 5-6 billion at present but a lot depends on how Blizzard continues to perform in several years if it is not doing as well it is now then they could pay 4 billion which is what they paid for Marvel and StarWars .

Only if Disney is offering a stock-for-stock merger + incentives I think. Otherwise I don't see it happening.

 

If they try to do it forcably with cash will ended up with similarly ugly situations to the Oracle vs Peoplesoft merger - where both company have financial resources to counter-offer each other and both company trying to agressively fight for controlling rights.

  User Deleted
11/02/12 12:29:17 AM#7
if they stay on the path of greed like EA/BW has then yeah. (their not far behind at blizz either, RMAH and the same price for monthly subs as when they first launched, just a matter of time.
  FrodoFragins

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11/02/12 12:35:21 AM#8
Buying video game developers isn't such a great idea these days.  And Blizzard isn't the same since they got rid of Blizzard North.  They are a one trick pony these days using the same design aesthetics and music on everything.
  delete5230

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11/02/12 1:14:25 AM#9
Stuff like this is all wow players have to talk about ?........I guess WoW hit rock bottom
  User Deleted
11/02/12 1:21:18 AM#10
Blizzard doesn't fit Disney's aquisition profile. When you look at what they go after, it's usually some IP like Lucas Films that they can market on multiple fronts from movies and TV, books, toys, and games. Blizzard has some footprint outside the PC game world but not enough of one to fit Disney's desires. 
  Vrika

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11/02/12 3:18:48 AM#11

If Disney bought a game developer, I think they'd want one that would support their other business by using Disney's IPs and launching together with their movie launches on multiple platforms.

Blizzard is used to doing things quite differently from what Disney would be looking for.

  ShakyMo

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11/02/12 4:41:01 AM#12
Disney are more in the business of bookface games and what have you, can't see them buying a pc developer like blizzard.

A more likely buyer would be microsoft in my opinion. Ea would love to get their hands on blizzard too, so they can use it to detoxify their brand by calling all their studios blizzard south, blizzard UK etc.. much like they did with bioware before destroying them. but thankfully they couldn't afford it.

I can see Microsoft though, they would love a big name with lots of good will to push windows 8, valve would be totally out of the question, so your looking at blizzard or bethseda.
  Xiaoki

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11/02/12 7:21:38 AM#13


Originally posted by delete5230
Stuff like this is all wow players have to talk about ?........I guess WoW hit rock bottom

You are talking about WoW players talking about it. Who's hit rock bottom?


If Disney were to buy a video game company they would buy one they could force to make games based on their IPs.

Even though Blizzard hasnt been an independent developer for a while they have always been given independence to do what they wanted.

  lizardbones

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11/02/12 7:48:03 AM#14

Unless Disney is deciding to become a major video game name, I don't see this happening. Blizzard does have a movie worthy IP, with a lot of history behind it, but Blizzard does not have a movie franchise. Disney would have to build the franchise from scratch. With Marvel and Lucas Arts, they bought the companies because they had a fully functional movie franchise setup already going.

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  jpnz

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11/02/12 8:03:28 AM#15

Considering the price of Acti-Blizz is what 10B or so, Disney is actually one of the few that has the cash to pull this off.

Only other western companies (excluding non-game companies like Nike) are Apple and MS.

Just because they have the cash doesn't mean they will and I can't see Disney buying something this big for so little to add onto their 'Disney' IP though.

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  Nadia

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11/02/12 8:39:09 AM#16
Originally posted by roo67
I dont think its out of the bounds of possibility . Maybe not in the short term but in the long term certainly .

Disney had no interest when they were approached this summer

http://www.vg247.com/2012/07/13/report-vivendi-may-have-sell-activision-shares-on-the-open-market/

Bloomberg’s reporting that Vivendi’s having a hard time selling its stake in Activision. According to sources close to the matter, the companies Vivendi has had discussions with either don’t have $8.1 billion lying around, or the companies with the funds to spare aren’t interested. Discussions with Disney, Microsoft, Tencent, and Take Two have all taken place

 

Vivendi Finding ‘Little Enthusiasm’ in Selling Activision
Microsoft and others “not actively considering a bid.”

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/07/13/vivendi-finding-little-enthusiasm-in-selling-activision

Vivendi is having trouble finding a buyer as it attempts to sell off its 61% stake in Activision. News earlier this week indicated that Microsoft and Time Warner were among the potential buyers Vivendi was looking to approach, but reports now indicate that there has been little momentum in actually selling the company.

According to Bloomberg, there has been “little enthusiasm among potential suitors,” which include Microsoft, Disney, Tencent and Nexon. Microsoft “isn’t actively considering a bid” (though a source says “that could change”). As Bloomberg notes, Microsoft "would have to consider that buying Activision may jeopardize sales of the company’s Call of Duty games for rival consoles made by Sony and Nintendo."

Meanwhile, Disney “is unlikely to bid” according to “a person with knowledge of the company’s plans.” Chinese company Tencent (which Activision recently announced a partnership with) and Japanese company Nexon were also approached but don’t have sufficient cash to fund a purchase of Vivendi’s stake in Activision, said to be worth at least $8 billion. [Update: To clarify, as commenters below have pointed out, Nexon's headquarters are in Japan, but it was originally founded in South Korea.]

 

  fenistil

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11/02/12 8:48:52 AM#17
Originally posted by zymurgeist
Originally posted by roo67
I dont think its out of the bounds of possibility . Maybe not in the short term but in the long term certainly .

 Not unless they can scrape up 20 billion or so. That and make Bobby Kotick head of Disney.

Activision-Blizzard is not worth 20 billion nor even asking price is that big.   It is rumored that Vivendi for it's control packet of 61% shares was asking 10 billion $ inititally, then it was rumored that it was lowered to ~8 billion $ and still no obvious buyers. 

Of course there might be some back-stage negotiations and all 'rumors' that noone wants to pay that much might be negotation strategy, but there never ever was 20 billion price attached to it.  Even if someone would want to boy 100% shares from Vivendi and miniority shareholders it would not be 20 billions $.

  apocoluster

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11/02/12 8:51:41 AM#18
    I think they should buy one of the Poorer countries, like Greece or North Korea and make a true Disney Kingdome  :)

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  ShakyMo

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11/02/12 9:46:38 AM#19
It's no secret blizzard Is for sale.

But a microsoft buy out makes much more sense than a Disney one.

1 ms want to push the win 8 store thing, merging it with battlenet would be great for them.
2 games devs are avoiding the win 8 platform as they fear closed shop and ms taking a cut console style with future win versions. Ms need a big well liked games company on the platform - there's 4 such companies really - valve who would never go back to Microsoft, bethseda who are owned by the wealthy zenimax and have strong ties to Sony, rockstar who hardly fit microsofts family friendly image and with being UK based might cause problems with eu antitrust laws, which leaves blizzard
3 there were those rumours of blizzard working with bungie a few years back on Titan
4 Microsoft could screw apple over by not releasing blizzard games on mac
5 Microsoft could screw sony over by not releasing activision games on Sony
6 they could get a mmo on xbox, no messy contract negotiable around xbox live
7 they could screw over valve with win 8 store / battlenet game delivery service.
  Wizardry

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Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

11/02/12 9:54:58 AM#20

Well vivendi tends to be in the business of buying not selling,although ANY business is for sale if things are not going well.Back when Vivendi was strguggling bad,setting a record loss,they offered up their gaming studio at under market value and nobody wanted it.

So if Vivendi and the new partner were to foresee any losses ,i am sure they would sell.This realistically will not happen for quite some time,Wow is a super cheap game to run ,makes a ton of profit and their other games are also designed to run cheap,so unless we see the main giant Wow start  to tumble,any thoughts of selling are as far away as the Sun.

TGhey also make profits from COD franchise as wel lother games are stil doing well,no way any buyer gets this operation unless they pay way over market value and that would be bad business.

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