Originally posted by BigAndShiny

 

 

But TOR, from the cantinas and underworld of Nar Shaddaa, to the wild-west feel of Tattooine, from the dark jungles of Dromund Kaas to the fetid swamps of Hutta, has atmosphere and lore and story.    #

 

 

If it wasn't for the rail system zones, I would like it even more.

Originally posted by bigsmiff

Originally posted by BigAndShiny

 

 

But TOR, from the cantinas and underworld of Nar Shaddaa, to the wild-west feel of Tattooine, from the dark jungles of Dromund Kaas to the fetid swamps of Hutta, has atmosphere and lore and story.    #

 

 

If it wasn't for the rail system zones, I would like it even more.

they just need to make the open world pvp more meaningful because that is what the game is lacking atm. the pve content of the game is already amazing. the pvp well i expected it to be like swg but kinda sucked. they need to keep their promises and start working on it. didn't bioware say they was going to fix illum? whatever happend to the illum project fix?

Originally posted by aligada87

Originally posted by bigsmiff

Originally posted by BigAndShiny

 

 

But TOR, from the cantinas and underworld of Nar Shaddaa, to the wild-west feel of Tattooine, from the dark jungles of Dromund Kaas to the fetid swamps of Hutta, has atmosphere and lore and story.    #

 

 

If it wasn't for the rail system zones, I would like it even more.

they just need to make the open world pvp more meaningful because that is what the game is lacking atm. the pve content of the game is already amazing. the pvp well i expected it to be like swg but kinda sucked. they need to keep their promises and start working on it. didn't bioware say they was going to fix illum? whatever happend to the illum project fix?

btw the f2p model of swtor isn't out yet right?

Originally posted by aligada87

Originally posted by aligada87

Originally posted by bigsmiff

Originally posted by BigAndShiny

 

 

But TOR, from the cantinas and underworld of Nar Shaddaa, to the wild-west feel of Tattooine, from the dark jungles of Dromund Kaas to the fetid swamps of Hutta, has atmosphere and lore and story.    #

 

 

If it wasn't for the rail system zones, I would like it even more.

they just need to make the open world pvp more meaningful because that is what the game is lacking atm. the pve content of the game is already amazing. the pvp well i expected it to be like swg but kinda sucked. they need to keep their promises and start working on it. didn't bioware say they was going to fix illum? whatever happend to the illum project fix?

btw the f2p model of swtor isn't out yet right?

Sometime in November, I think.

Tough question .. neither game was a real MMORPG savior, each having significant flaws.

There is a chance that GW2 might implement progression some day, since many people are bored from not having it and ArenaNet might listen. 

There is also a chance that SWTOR might steer themselves away from their WoW-clone model one day, since it is also somewhat boring.

Neither game is extraordinary, currently, but given EA's vs. ArenaNets track record for listening to customer feedback, I would expect changes to GW2 before I really see anything drastically new  in SWTOR.

Originally posted by Yakamomoto

@OP

good decision.

SWTOR has a greater longterm value anyway.

Agreed.

Originally posted by Karteli

Tough question .. neither game was a real MMORPG savior, each having significant flaws.

 

There is a chance that GW2 might implement progression some day, since many people are bored from not having it and ArenaNet might listen. 

There is also a chance that SWTOR might steer themselves away from their WoW-clone model one day, since it is also somewhat boring.

 

Neither game is extraordinary, currently, but given EA's vs. ArenaNets track record for listening to customer feedback, I would expect changes to GW2 before I really see anything drastically new  in SWTOR.

As simple as the changes to progession sound, I don't think ANET is very keen on level progression to begin with.  They only added levels to appease a certain player base and the implementation in GW2 is lacking to say the least.  Also, ANET seems to be resting on their laurels a bit.  I don't see them doing anything drastic.

I'm going to give EA the benefit of the doubt and hope that they will implement changes that appeal to a greater base.  They simply need to recoup that $200 million or w/e the budget ended up being.  I think they have the greater motivation of the two companies.

Originally posted by grimal

Originally posted by Karteli

Tough question .. neither game was a real MMORPG savior, each having significant flaws.

 

There is a chance that GW2 might implement progression some day, since many people are bored from not having it and ArenaNet might listen. 

There is also a chance that SWTOR might steer themselves away from their WoW-clone model one day, since it is also somewhat boring.

 

Neither game is extraordinary, currently, but given EA's vs. ArenaNets track record for listening to customer feedback, I would expect changes to GW2 before I really see anything drastically new  in SWTOR.

As simple as the changes to progession sound, I don't think ANET is very keen on level progression to begin with.  They only added levels to appease a certain player base and the implementation in GW2 is lacking to say the least.  Also, ANET seems to be resting on their laurels a bit.  I don't see them doing anything drastic.

I'm going to give EA the benefit of the doubt and hope that they will implement changes that appeal to a greater base.  They simply need to recoup that $200 million or w/e the budget ended up being.  I think they have the greater motivation of the two companies.

 

100% agree with you here.  I'm just wondering if EA has anyone that really understands the MMO industry well enough to pull this off.  Because past actions prove otherwise.

Originally posted by ragz45

Originally posted by grimal

Originally posted by Karteli

Tough question .. neither game was a real MMORPG savior, each having significant flaws.

 

There is a chance that GW2 might implement progression some day, since many people are bored from not having it and ArenaNet might listen. 

There is also a chance that SWTOR might steer themselves away from their WoW-clone model one day, since it is also somewhat boring.

 

Neither game is extraordinary, currently, but given EA's vs. ArenaNets track record for listening to customer feedback, I would expect changes to GW2 before I really see anything drastically new  in SWTOR.

As simple as the changes to progession sound, I don't think ANET is very keen on level progression to begin with.  They only added levels to appease a certain player base and the implementation in GW2 is lacking to say the least.  Also, ANET seems to be resting on their laurels a bit.  I don't see them doing anything drastic.

I'm going to give EA the benefit of the doubt and hope that they will implement changes that appeal to a greater base.  They simply need to recoup that $200 million or w/e the budget ended up being.  I think they have the greater motivation of the two companies.

 

 

100% agree with you here.  I'm just wondering if EA has anyone that really understands the MMO industry well enough to pull this off.  Because past actions prove otherwise.

Well, hopefully after all those firings they found someone!

I just ate a whole 2 bowls of chili reading this. Happy Halloween!

Originally posted by Zylaxx
Hanve fun and enjoy your stay in a WoW clone with crappier endgame.

Which one do you mean? Guild Wars or SWTOR? Cause yeah both of em you move around with WASD and use a mouse and such. Besides that not sure which one your referring to a being the wow clone. Both have rather large differences to that cesspool of a game.

As to the rest of the thread:

Guild Wars 2 has less end game (IE no end game cept for item skins) then SWTOR, however EA is a money hungry dicktator of a publisher so that's not in SWTOR's favor. Bioware is much much better at the story telling then Anet is and while alot of the initial SWTOR complaints were based around not enough, or buggy end game content at least some of that was because some people have zero lives outside of the pixel worlds and finish stuff meant to take weeks/months in a few days.

Both games have their merits, I do currently play GW2 but that is very very quickly wearing thin as I've beat the game and nothing else to do. I will definately be headed back to SWTOR in the near future F2P or not. I might try GW2 again in a few months when they add more content to do.

Originally posted by grimal

Originally posted by Karteli

Tough question .. neither game was a real MMORPG savior, each having significant flaws.

 

There is a chance that GW2 might implement progression some day, since many people are bored from not having it and ArenaNet might listen. 

There is also a chance that SWTOR might steer themselves away from their WoW-clone model one day, since it is also somewhat boring.

 

Neither game is extraordinary, currently, but given EA's vs. ArenaNets track record for listening to customer feedback, I would expect changes to GW2 before I really see anything drastically new  in SWTOR.

As simple as the changes to progession sound, I don't think ANET is very keen on level progression to begin with.  They only added levels to appease a certain player base and the implementation in GW2 is lacking to say the least.  Also, ANET seems to be resting on their laurels a bit.  I don't see them doing anything drastic.

I'm going to give EA the benefit of the doubt and hope that they will implement changes that appeal to a greater base.  They simply need to recoup that $200 million or w/e the budget ended up being.  I think they have the greater motivation of the two companies.

They have motivation, although I'm concerned whether EA has the ability to pull something off.  F2P, for instance, is really just a repackaging of the product without changing the original recipe.  Arguably, they added sprinkles (whee!!).  I guess their motivation lies in financial short term gain, and not with game innovations for the long term, in order to get their initial investment back.

The Super Secret Space Project might be an interesting major change for SWTOR, but EA has undergone so much internal restructuring in their BioWare Austin studio that who knows if this even got past white board diagrams.  Fans keep the idea alive .. but EA just says, "We have no new information at this time", etc.

On the ArenaNet front, true, it would be unlikely to see drastic changes, but not impossible (even then it would be an expansion).  The same with EA's SWTOR, as it is, currently.  Both games seem to be sharing the notion of getting everything you can from what you got, without going much further than that.

Originally posted by Half_Man_Half_Toon
Well I level my Norn Warrior to 68 so far im real casual? I stop playing GW2 becouse my Guild all of the sudden stop playing and im also bored and dont want to level my Toon again and go to all those vistas skill points etc, I want to come to Star Wars The Old Republic Becouse I want a Sense Of Community and also Gameplay and Storyline plus Star Wars is Star Wars so im Excited to come back specially when it goes free to play, and since im starting fresh by that time I reach cap level it will be free to play, what you guys say? is it worth coming back to Star Wars The Old Republic? im looking for Fun.

Thanks for sharing.  Bye.

About the Super Secret Space Project - the last meaningful comment from Allison is dated August 13.

I got some info from Damion Schubert (Principal Lead Systems Designer) about this for you! He says that the "super secret space project" is certainly not dead and is in development. Unfortunately, we're not ready to say much more than that about it. We do, though, have more space content coming in the near future, and will continue work on the "super secret space project!"

Good luck in SWTOR. If I'm ever going to install that game again it'll be to experience the stories. Not that those stories are all that great, but some are decent if not simply good. I can't imagine paying for anything in SWTOR since beyond the story there simply isn't anything worth paying for. I might see it when they go F2P, but I'm in no hurry since some of the stories are just plain awful.

Let's hope they can turn this around, but I'm far from confident that EA will be succesfull at running a F2P game and turning a profit on it.

Originally posted by moguy2

I just ate a whole 2 bowls of chili reading this. Happy Halloween!

 

I want chili.