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  Aerowyn

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10/28/12 10:56:14 AM#141
Originally posted by Yakamomoto
*snip*

I learned there is no reason, there is just a crowd who rates everything GW2 related truckloads of biased 10s for everything.

That´s what I learned from this thread.

 

just facinating you can't wrap your head around the fact people actually find this to be an amazing game and rate it high even is aspects you don't agree with.. news flash people have very differn't values in what makes a great game some people love games like TSW many might find it garbage same for swtor or wow and any other game..

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  Toxia

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10/28/12 10:58:08 AM#142
Originally posted by Yakamomoto
Originally posted by Toxia

Once again, you can't dictate what someone thinks is a fantastic value.

I´m only worried about the future of MMOs and GW2 clones popping up instead of good games with real innovation and more challenging game play.

Welcome to another decade of theme park clone MMOs, now without quest hubs.

The thing is I don´t even care how well GW2 goes, you all can play this for all eternity and be happy with it,  I´m just disappointed by the MMO community that this type of gameplay was able to get such a positive reception.

Despite the fan hype, when I played the beta I thought this will be the biggest flop in MMO history - fact.

But it did not flop - so other companies will see that as a sign that over casualized "reward for everything" theme park MMOs and removed group responsibility are going strong, that is the real drawback for the whole GENRE.

I hoped the pure themepark concept gets finally canned and more innovative titles with innovative mechanics will finally emerge.

Now that mmorpg rated this title an ultimate 10/10 for "innovation" which turned out to be "no quest hubs" and an automatic quest log, I think this was the worst sign reviewers could give to the industry.

Big companies will now create slightly adapted GW2 clones instead of WoWclones, which is just sad. This will continue for the next years and the majority of the genre remains at the stale, dumbed down state it has been in for years now.

My hope rests on World of Darkness, Archeage and Star Citizen. But those titles will be competing against a dozen GW2 clones by the time of release, and players will enjoy doing the same thing as in every other MMO, AGAIN.

 


 

Small steps friend, all about small steps :)

I personally think GW2 is innovating in all the right areas for THEMEPARK mmo's.

They took all the tedious from their MMO(minus Legendaries). They made it all about fun and the short haul.

IE: A casual, pick up at the end of the work day and have some simple fun game.

I think your mistake was expecting something deep from a themepark.

 

EDITED to add that i think the genre is finally moving forward. They have realised you cant try and cater to themepark and saondbox playstyles at the same time.

So we finally have a seperation of subgenres. GW2 for one group, Archage/Eve/etc for the other. This is good.

 

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  eyelolled

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10/28/12 11:11:13 AM#143
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Yakamomoto
*snip*

I learned there is no reason, there is just a crowd who rates everything GW2 related truckloads of biased 10s for everything.

That´s what I learned from this thread.

 

just facinating you can't wrap your head around the fact people actually find this to be an amazing game and rate it high even is aspects you don't agree with.. news flash people have very differn't values in what makes a great game some people love games like TSW many might find it garbage same for swtor or wow and any other game..

whats also interesting about this, is that he chooses to post about GW2  MORE than any other videogame out there.  GW2 is obviously the most important game to him even if he doesn't realize it.    

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  Yakamomoto

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Joined: 9/24/12
Posts: 385

 
OP  10/28/12 11:16:35 AM#144
Originally posted by Toxia
 

EDITED to add that i think the genre is finally moving forward. They have realised you cant try and cater to themepark and saondbox playstyles at the same time.

So we finally have a seperation of subgenres. GW2 for one group, Archage/Eve/etc for the other. This is good.

 

After the GW2 success the Archeage/EvE/WoD types of games will remain underdog.

Most companies will continue to cater to the mass market and that is clearly the GW2 target audience.

I don´t even want to know how many great game concepts have been scrapped or crippled by now to adapt to the GW2 type themepark scheme. GW2 is not even an inch of a sandbox.

  halflife25

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Joined: 9/13/12
Posts: 787

10/28/12 11:20:52 AM#145
I gave it a 6 / 10 at launch and still stand by my score. It is an ok game.. As a B2P game it is worth the box fee.
  Aerowyn

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10/28/12 11:24:09 AM#146
Originally posted by Yakamomoto
Originally posted by Toxia
 

EDITED to add that i think the genre is finally moving forward. They have realised you cant try and cater to themepark and saondbox playstyles at the same time.

So we finally have a seperation of subgenres. GW2 for one group, Archage/Eve/etc for the other. This is good.

 

After the GW2 success the Archeage/EvE/WoD types of games will remain underdog.

Most companies will continue to cater to the mass market and that is clearly the GW2 target audience.

I don´t even want to know how many great game concepts have been scrapped or crippled by now to adapt to the GW2 type themepark scheme. GW2 is not even an inch of a sandbox.

if you look at games coming on the horizon you would see how ridiulous your little "crusade" is but whatever floats your boat i guess

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  InFlamestwo

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10/28/12 11:25:04 AM#147
Originally posted by boxsnd
Yup. I went from a 7/10 after the betas to a 3/10 about 1 month after release. Pretty graphics but no substance at all.

You can say that about all mmorpgs. Tell me which mmorpg you didn't leave after 1 month or got bored?

I still enjoy GW2 but it's not as fun after 2 months because i've played over 300 hours in that short time. Also, there is coming more content in November which will be a refreshment.

  InFlamestwo

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10/28/12 11:27:17 AM#148
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Yakamomoto
Originally posted by Toxia
 

EDITED to add that i think the genre is finally moving forward. They have realised you cant try and cater to themepark and saondbox playstyles at the same time.

So we finally have a seperation of subgenres. GW2 for one group, Archage/Eve/etc for the other. This is good.

 

After the GW2 success the Archeage/EvE/WoD types of games will remain underdog.

Most companies will continue to cater to the mass market and that is clearly the GW2 target audience.

I don´t even want to know how many great game concepts have been scrapped or crippled by now to adapt to the GW2 type themepark scheme. GW2 is not even an inch of a sandbox.

if you look at games coming on the horizon you would see how ridiulous your little "crusade" is but whatever floats your boat i guess

Those games coming in 2013 and 2014 have a few years of work in them. It's not adaptions to GW2. The games that will adapt to GW2 and make it even better will be out 2015-2017.

  drbaltazar

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Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 7937

10/28/12 11:34:43 AM#149
i had issue with my hdtv was thinking it was the game,saw an old post (ok ok very old)that said screen were optimised for adobe rgb 1998 and the industry always ignored os maker flavor of the day!i didnt believe it of caurse so i went and got adobe rgb 1998!what the fuck is this?now i GOT FULL HD!cheer ,i almost want to cry!ya i can confirm with a toshiba 24sl410u,when moninfo.exe say non-srgb ,they mean non-srgb(they could yell use adobe rgb 1998 ,but i bet ms wouldnt like it(lol)bottom line almost all screen are adobe rgb 1998!so you want good quality use adobe rgb 1998!i always loved thegw2 graphic but now?wow!i love the phy brain puzzle ,just worked too much in the last 1 month didnt have time to game!
  Eir_S

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Joined: 8/07/11
Posts: 4694

GW2 socialist.

10/28/12 11:41:42 AM#150
Originally posted by Yakamomoto
Originally posted by Toxia
 

EDITED to add that i think the genre is finally moving forward. They have realised you cant try and cater to themepark and saondbox playstyles at the same time.

So we finally have a seperation of subgenres. GW2 for one group, Archage/Eve/etc for the other. This is good.

 

After the GW2 success the Archeage/EvE/WoD types of games will remain underdog.

Most companies will continue to cater to the mass market and that is clearly the GW2 target audience.

I don´t even want to know how many great game concepts have been scrapped or crippled by now to adapt to the GW2 type themepark scheme. GW2 is not even an inch of a sandbox.

So let me see if I have this right.  You think that after 8 years of producing utter garbage, that GW2 will somehow change the rate at which garbage is produced, either for better or for worse?

You should write fantasy fiction.  There were no great game concepts before, GW2 isn't going to change that.  In fact, there are more sandbox games on the horizon than ever, most of which don't resemble GW2 in the slightest.  Stop being so melodramatic.

  eyelolled

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10/28/12 11:46:51 AM#151
 

 

Anyhow, GW2 is doing great and you're disappointed in that. We understand.  I'm sorry that other people enjoying a game is causing you distress. 

 

EDIT: The mods removed his comment, so I'll remove my reply.

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  Ginaz

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10/28/12 12:48:11 PM#152
When I first started playing, I would have rated it a very solid 8.  Now, after not playing for about 2 months now, I'd have to downgrade it to 7.5.  Still a good game and well worth the pruchase price but I got bored with it far too quickly, hence the lower score.

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  boxsnd

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10/28/12 2:35:27 PM#153
Originally posted by InFlamestwo
Originally posted by boxsnd
Yup. I went from a 7/10 after the betas to a 3/10 about 1 month after release. Pretty graphics but no substance at all.

You can say that about all mmorpgs. Tell me which mmorpg you didn't leave after 1 month or got bored?

I still enjoy GW2 but it's not as fun after 2 months because i've played over 300 hours in that short time. Also, there is coming more content in November which will be a refreshment.

2 MMOs: WoW and DAoC, about 3 years each.

Why? DAoC's endgame PvP was addicting as hell. If they didn't destroy it with those horrible expansions I would still play today.

Now about WoW, the PvE (leveling/gear progression) was somewhat fun, but I was never crazy about it. I guess my standards are higher now.

 

GW2 had a great chance to be the next big thing but they blew it with the lack of FUN endgame progression.

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  FrodoFragins

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10/28/12 3:20:03 PM#154

I stand by my 8.5/10.

 

Role playing is what you make of it in MMOs. 

  JoeyMMO

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To busy playing GW2 to post much around here... *shrug*

10/28/12 3:40:30 PM#155
Originally posted by Yakamomoto

So I have been wondering if those numbers under "user rating" really represent the current status, especially the "Service" rating of 8,5 out of 700 ratings and the value rating of 9.4 considering the heavy cash shop centric itemization keeps me scratching my head, service team takes weeks to answer inquiries, unpleasant but truthful concerns on the GW2 get deleted and users infracted left and right.

Question do you stand by your ratings now after playing for some time or will you edit / have you edited your rating?

Do you even play GW2? Heavy Cash Shop Centric itemization? What in blazes are you going on about?

I haven't had to rely on the service team yet, so good or bad it doesn't really matter to me. At first they were no doubt swamped. As players wisen up problems should sink to managable levels.

  Iselin

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10/28/12 3:49:32 PM#156
Originally posted by boxsnd
Originally posted by InFlamestwo
Originally posted by boxsnd
Yup. I went from a 7/10 after the betas to a 3/10 about 1 month after release. Pretty graphics but no substance at all.

You can say that about all mmorpgs. Tell me which mmorpg you didn't leave after 1 month or got bored?

I still enjoy GW2 but it's not as fun after 2 months because i've played over 300 hours in that short time. Also, there is coming more content in November which will be a refreshment.

2 MMOs: WoW and DAoC, about 3 years each.

Why? DAoC's endgame PvP was addicting as hell. If they didn't destroy it with those horrible expansions I would still play today.

Now about WoW, the PvE (leveling/gear progression) was somewhat fun, but I was never crazy about it. I guess my standards are higher now.

 

GW2 had a great chance to be the next big thing but they blew it with the lack of FUN endgame progression.

Which MMO, released in the past few years, grew a player base and just kept on growing like WOW did? I'll save you the trouble of answering...none. And DAoC was also pre-WOW. Those also happen to be the two I played the longest just like you. But unlike you, I don't come to the conclusion that this means that they have all been inferior to WOW and DAoC--quite the opposite actually.

 

There are many theories as to why MMOers don't stick to anything longer than a couple of months these days. A big part of it, imho is that now we have many, many choices. When I started DAoC there was UO, EQ, AC and that was about it. When WOW released about a month after EQ II the choices were those I mentioned + AC II and SWG. We grew communities simply because we set down roots... there was nothing else to it.

 

Now we have at least 5 or 6 major releases every year and a host of minor ones. People drift to other MMOs pretty quickly now. I tend to stay around longer than most but even I have gone through Rift, SWTOR, Tera, TSW and GW2 in the past 12 months. I've resisted Pandaville so far but I do have 2 level 85 characters back there waiting for me.

 

8 years ago we stuck around basically because we were playing one of the only MMOs in town.

 

You and others are continually banging your heads against the wall trying to find fault with the games you leave behind when in fact you're just leaving because something else catches your attention.

 

At any rate, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

PS. At the risk of being excomunicated by DAoCite community, I'll just go ahead and say it: GW2 WvW > DAoC RvR.

  eyelolled

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10/28/12 3:52:45 PM#157
Originally posted by JoeyMMO
Originally posted by Yakamomoto

So I have been wondering if those numbers under "user rating" really represent the current status, especially the "Service" rating of 8,5 out of 700 ratings and the value rating of 9.4 considering the heavy cash shop centric itemization keeps me scratching my head, service team takes weeks to answer inquiries, unpleasant but truthful concerns on the GW2 get deleted and users infracted left and right.

Question do you stand by your ratings now after playing for some time or will you edit / have you edited your rating?

Do you even play GW2? Heavy Cash Shop Centric itemization? What in blazes are you going on about?

I haven't had to rely on the service team yet, so good or bad it doesn't really matter to me. At first they were no doubt swamped. As players wisen up problems should sink to managable levels.

He doesn't play GW2. He tried the BWE though and that has given him pretty deep insight into the game.

I think he reads stuff here and there too, though that is just a assumption.

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

  spizz

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Posts: 2582

10/28/12 5:12:29 PM#158
I didnt score rate this game on this forum, since it makes no sense. Most new games are totally overhyped on the score board and GW2 is one of it. I would give it a 7 in rating, but since so many did hype this game you would need to vote with minus ratings. Makes no sense.
  TangentPoint

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The "Real Game" begins at character creation.

10/28/12 5:23:59 PM#159
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Purutzil

2.1 Harsh I know, but truthfully its what I feel. Really taking a look and being honest with myself it made me change things up.

 

To be fair, I am harsh on games so my 2.1 would probably be more like a 4.2 for more normal people reviewing a game though so in that way, its not as bad, but stil weak in performance. More playable then some iffy F2P games but not something I'd brag to friends about. 

curious though as you said you got a refund so the game now owes you nothing as all the money spent as been returned.. you have nothing to discuss about game mechanics and how to make them better because you think the game is garbage but basically are here just to rag on a game that gave you a full refund.. 

Wait a minute.

Several posts back before the one I'm quoting here, you were defending someone for giving the game a 10 because, for their own reasons, that's what it deserved to them.

Now, someone gives it a low score for reasons they feel it's deserved while they played it, and yet here you are challenging them on it and attempting to dismiss their opinion.

So, it's okay for people to give a perfect score as long as "it deserves it for them", but the same doesn't hold true for lower scores?

I believe that's called a double standard.

Careful, Aerowyn. Your bias is showing.

My philosophy on MMORPGs:

Leveling is what happens while you're playing the rest of the game.

Don't worry about levels. Just play.

  ictown

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Posts: 124

10/28/12 5:45:38 PM#160

I still rate this game a 10, its the best themepark game I've played. I play GW2 along side with SC4

I'll be playing until SC5 is released in Feb.. Depending the the multi player function of SC5, it could be more or less time on GW2.

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