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  Creslin321

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10/28/12 12:05:18 PM#61
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by Creslin321
Yes, you should try ;).

Anyway, I suppose there was a time when I actually contributed useful things to this site way back when.  But now I recognize it for what it is and that time has passed lol.

also, isn't your calling out of my opinion that his opinion is stupid, basically the same thing I did ;)?

No;;;i am simply disagreeing with your way of dealing with people who might have different interpretation of terms MMO. I don't think even remotely implied that your opinion is stupid. I just don't feel there are any absolutes or my interpretation is the only right one when it comes to MMOS.

seriously though I have been playing RPGs for over 20 years calling GW2 not an RPG is ridiculous and saying it's not an MMO is equally ridiculous.. i could go around saying GW2 has more sandbox elements than themepark but that statement doesn't make me look any less stupid even if it is just my opinion

I thought we just got over this on alst page? anyways...

Only day i will start calling other people stupid for having a different opinion is when i am completely full of myself. But since i am not, i respect others opinions as much i expect them to respect mine.

Now if someone is twisting facts is another matter.  Look at the new title Star Citizen for example. The whole MMO term is evoloving with every new title so much that the creator doesn't want to confine his game into any limitations of one definition.

So your 20 years of experince playing  RPG got nothign to do with interpretation of the term MMO. Which is not absolute and never was.

Valid opinion:  I don't like baseball, I think it is boring to watch.

Stupid opinion:  baseball is not a sport.

you know, I remember that there used to be a time where people could actually be WRONG.  But now apparently, we have to respect evreryone's opinion regardless of how delusional those opinions are.

Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?

  Icewhite

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10/28/12 12:05:33 PM#62
Originally posted by Popori
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by Popori

But who is the real victor in all this?

The next generation of fanboy/hater, of course.

See ya'll in the Next Big Thing forum, whatever that is.

I am guessing TESO will be "the one" now the marketing has kicked in to counteract people's concerns about its design.

I agree, it will be as stupid of a pot vs. kettle battle as GW2.  Though, I suspect the initial topics will be

"TESO (is/isn't) really part of TES universe, here's why!"


It's not REALLY an MMO, or even a computer game!

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  Vhaln

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Joined: 7/07/05
Posts: 3167

10/28/12 12:06:34 PM#63

My expectations were never that high.  I expected a decent MMORPG, and its lived up to that, no question.  

 

I'd *hoped* for a great MMORPG, and in that.. it really needs more longevity, more depth and variety of content, more to do at the level cap that isn't totally pointless.  I still think ArenaNet can build it into something like that, but from what I can tell, that's not even the direction they're taking it in.

 

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  Popori

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Posts: 333

10/28/12 12:07:52 PM#64
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by Popori
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by Popori

But who is the real victor in all this?

The next generation of fanboy/hater, of course.

See ya'll in the Next Big Thing forum, whatever that is.

I am guessing TESO will be "the one" now the marketing has kicked in to counteract people's concerns about its design.

I agree, it will be as stupid of a pot vs. kettle battle as GW2.  Though, I suspect the initial topics will be

"TESO (is/isn't) really part of TES universe, here's why!"


It's not REALLY an MMO, or even a computer game!

Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad

  RefMinor

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Joined: 7/16/11
Posts: 3542

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10/28/12 12:08:23 PM#65
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by Popori

But who is the real victor in all this?

The next generation of fanboy/hater, of course.

See ya'll in the Next Big Thing forum, whatever that is.

I am guessing TESO will be "the one" now the marketing has kicked in to counteract people's concerns about its design.

Aw, and I was counting on Smedley. Ah well.

Let me order my TESO hat.

The marketing campaign hasn't started for EQN yet, I imagine that will get very fraught as the meaning of Smed's term "sandbox style game" gets revealed.

  grimal

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Joined: 9/11/05
Posts: 2207

10/28/12 12:08:25 PM#66
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by Creslin321
Yes, you should try ;).

Anyway, I suppose there was a time when I actually contributed useful things to this site way back when.  But now I recognize it for what it is and that time has passed lol.

also, isn't your calling out of my opinion that his opinion is stupid, basically the same thing I did ;)?

No;;;i am simply disagreeing with your way of dealing with people who might have different interpretation of terms MMO. I don't think even remotely implied that your opinion is stupid. I just don't feel there are any absolutes or my interpretation is the only right one when it comes to MMOS.

seriously though I have been playing RPGs for over 20 years calling GW2 not an RPG is ridiculous and saying it's not an MMO is equally ridiculous.. i could go around saying GW2 has more sandbox elements than themepark but that statement doesn't make me look any less stupid even if it is just my opinion

I thought we just got over this on alst page? anyways...

Only day i will start calling other people stupid for having a different opinion is when i am completely full of myself. But since i am not, i respect others opinions as much i expect them to respect mine.

Now if someone is twisting facts is another matter.  Look at the new title Star Citizen for example. The whole MMO term is evoloving with every new title so much that the creator doesn't want to confine his game into any limitations of one definition.

So your 20 years of experince playing  RPG got nothign to do with interpretation of the term MMO. Which is not absolute and never was.

Valid opinion:  I don't like baseball, I think it is boring to watch.

Stupid opinion:  baseball is not a sport.

you know, I remember that there used to be a time where people could actually be WRONG.  But now apparently, we have to respect evreryone's opinion regardless of how delusional those opinions are.

You are comparing apples and oranges here.

I never said I didn't like GW2; in fact, I like it.

I just consider it a different type of MMO than you do.  The difference here is that you are calling me stupid for it.

"I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you." - Robin Williams

  halflife25

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Joined: 9/13/12
Posts: 787

10/28/12 12:09:22 PM#67
Originally posted by Creslin321
Valid opinion:  I don't like baseball, I think it is boring to watch.

Stupid opinion:  baseball is not a sport.

you know, I remember that there used to be a time where people could actually be WRONG.  But now apparently, we have to respect evreryone's opinion regardless of how delusional those opinions are.

How many versions of baseball are there? and how many times baseball has changed its rules and evolved with new editions over the year?  not a valid comparison now is it? 

More valid compairons would be that GW2 is a video game or not. MMO is a term to define the genre of games like GW2 which is not the same.

  Icewhite

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Posts: 6495

Pink, it's like red but not quite.

10/28/12 12:09:55 PM#68
Originally posted by Vhaln
I still think ArenaNet can build it into something like that, but from what I can tell, that's not even the direction they're taking it in.

otoh--how often can you accurately predict a dev team's future from 60 days?  Seriously?

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  RefMinor

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Joined: 7/16/11
Posts: 3542

Hipster

10/28/12 12:11:59 PM#69
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by Creslin321
Valid opinion:  I don't like baseball, I think it is boring to watch.

Stupid opinion:  baseball is not a sport.

you know, I remember that there used to be a time where people could actually be WRONG.  But now apparently, we have to respect evreryone's opinion regardless of how delusional those opinions are.

How many versions of baseball are there? and how many times baseball has changed its rules and evolved with new editions over the year?  not a valid comparison now is it? 

More valid compairons would be that GW2 is a video game or not. MMO is a term to define the genre of games like GW2 which is not the same.

It was originally the English game of Rounders so at least once.

  Vhaln

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Joined: 7/07/05
Posts: 3167

10/28/12 12:12:05 PM#70
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by Vhaln
I still think ArenaNet can build it into something like that, but from what I can tell, that's not even the direction they're taking it in.

otoh--how often can you accurately predict a dev team's future from 60 days?  Seriously?

"From what I can tell," meaning.. yeah, I can't tell, but just from dev posts, and the nature of the changes and additions they've been making, I can take an educated guess.  Might be way off, but just saying, from what I can tell.

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  Popori

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Joined: 8/20/03
Posts: 333

10/28/12 12:12:15 PM#71

I'm dictating that everyone must have this playing in the background when reading these silly threads:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A3j0zWpTs0

I think it really captures the thread's energy.

  halflife25

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Joined: 9/13/12
Posts: 787

10/28/12 12:13:41 PM#72
Originally posted by Popori

I'm dictating that everyone must have this playing in the background when reading these silly threads:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A3j0zWpTs0

I think it really captures the thread's energy.

I play that all the time while reading these forums. Because there is no such thing as non-silly thread on mmorpg.com ;)

  Icewhite

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Joined: 7/11/11
Posts: 6495

Pink, it's like red but not quite.

10/28/12 12:14:20 PM#73
Originally posted by Popori

I'm dictating that everyone must have this playing in the background when reading these silly threads:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A3j0zWpTs0

I think it really captures the thread's energy.

Not Samwell?  Disappointed, am I.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  Vhaln

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Posts: 3167

10/28/12 12:14:52 PM#74
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by Creslin321

  Valid opinion:  I don't like baseball, I think it is boring to watch.

Stupid opinion:  baseball is not a sport.

you know, I remember that there used to be a time where people could actually be WRONG.  But now apparently, we have to respect evreryone's opinion regardless of how delusional those opinions are.

How many versions of baseball are there? and how many times baseball has changed its rules and evolved with new editions over the year?  not a valid comparison now is it? 

More valid compairons would be that GW2 is a video game or not. MMO is a term to define the genre of games like GW2 which is not the same.

In that metaphor, the parallel question would be, how many sports are there?  How many different versions of sports?

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  halflife25

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Joined: 9/13/12
Posts: 787

10/28/12 12:17:14 PM#75
Originally posted by Vhaln
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by Creslin321

  Valid opinion:  I don't like baseball, I think it is boring to watch.

Stupid opinion:  baseball is not a sport.

you know, I remember that there used to be a time where people could actually be WRONG.  But now apparently, we have to respect evreryone's opinion regardless of how delusional those opinions are.

How many versions of baseball are there? and how many times baseball has changed its rules and evolved with new editions over the year?  not a valid comparison now is it? 

More valid compairons would be that GW2 is a video game or not. MMO is a term to define the genre of games like GW2 which is not the same.

In that metaphor, the parallel question would be, how many sports are there?  How many different versions of sports?

Vhaln your metaphors are stupid.

*just keeping it in with theme of the topic*

  Ginaz

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10/28/12 12:18:41 PM#76
Nice to see the usual suspects of the GW2 White Knight Brigade out in full force...yet again.  And this game WAS heavily, heavily hyped by the fans and the developers for quite some time before release.  Anyone that posted concerns or critisms were beaten down.

Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?

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  evilprey

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10/28/12 12:19:09 PM#77
gw2 is best mmo in my opinion and i played almost all important mmo on the market
  Vhaln

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10/28/12 12:19:19 PM#78
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by Vhaln
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by Creslin321

  Valid opinion:  I don't like baseball, I think it is boring to watch.

Stupid opinion:  baseball is not a sport.

you know, I remember that there used to be a time where people could actually be WRONG.  But now apparently, we have to respect evreryone's opinion regardless of how delusional those opinions are.

How many versions of baseball are there? and how many times baseball has changed its rules and evolved with new editions over the year?  not a valid comparison now is it? 

More valid compairons would be that GW2 is a video game or not. MMO is a term to define the genre of games like GW2 which is not the same.

In that metaphor, the parallel question would be, how many sports are there?  How many different versions of sports?

Vhaln your metaphors are stupid.

*just keeping it in with theme of the topic*

It's not my metaphor, it's Creslins.  Geez man, pay attention :p

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  Popori

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Posts: 333

10/28/12 12:20:01 PM#79
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by Vhaln
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by Creslin321

  Valid opinion:  I don't like baseball, I think it is boring to watch.

Stupid opinion:  baseball is not a sport.

you know, I remember that there used to be a time where people could actually be WRONG.  But now apparently, we have to respect evreryone's opinion regardless of how delusional those opinions are.

How many versions of baseball are there? and how many times baseball has changed its rules and evolved with new editions over the year?  not a valid comparison now is it? 

More valid compairons would be that GW2 is a video game or not. MMO is a term to define the genre of games like GW2 which is not the same.

In that metaphor, the parallel question would be, how many sports are there?  How many different versions of sports?

Vhaln your metaphors are stupid.

*just keeping it in with theme of the topic*

  grimal

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10/28/12 12:22:57 PM#80
Originally posted by Creslin321
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Yes, you should try ;).

Anyway, I suppose there was a time when I actually contributed useful things to this site way back when.  But now I recognize it for what it is and that time has passed lol.

also, isn't your calling out of my opinion that his opinion is stupid, basically the same thing I did ;)?

No;;;i am simply disagreeing with your way of dealing with people who might have different interpretation of terms MMO. I don't think even remotely implied that your opinion is stupid. I just don't feel there are any absolutes or my interpretation is the only right one when it comes to MMOS.

seriously though I have been playing RPGs for over 20 years calling GW2 not an RPG is ridiculous and saying it's not an MMO is equally ridiculous.. i could go around saying GW2 has more sandbox elements than themepark but that statement doesn't make me look any less stupid even if it is just my opinion

I thought we just got over this on alst page? anyways...

Only day i will start calling other people stupid for having a different opinion is when i am completely full of myself. But since i am not, i respect others opinions as much i expect them to respect mine.

Now if someone is twisting facts is another matter.  Look at the new title Star Citizen for example. The whole MMO term is evoloving with every new title so much that the creator doesn't want to confine his game into any limitations of one definition.

So your 20 years of experince playing  RPG got nothign to do with interpretation of the term MMO. Which is not absolute and never was.

Valid opinion:  I don't like baseball, I think it is boring to watch.

Stupid opinion:  baseball is not a sport.

you know, I remember that there used to be a time where people could actually be WRONG.  But now apparently, we have to respect evreryone's opinion regardless of how delusional those opinions are.

You are comparing apples and oranges here.

I never said I didn't like GW2; in fact, I like it.

I just consider it a different type of MMO than you do.  The difference here is that you are calling me stupid for it.

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I am arguing that GW2 fits into a subcategory of MMOs...Much like the term "sandbox" and "themepark" do.   If we didn't use those terms, someone who bought SWTOR thinking it would be like SWG would be gravely disappointed.

A lot of people have posted on these boards they went into GW2 expecting something different...ie more of an MMORPG feel.  Look around.  People have posted they find it "shallow", "MMO-lite", "lacking progression", etc.  So I am not alone in this.

Maybe, just maybe all of us could come to some sort of agreement that these games are in fact different and maybe going in with the expectations of an MMORPG only to encounter a MMOCRPG could be avoided in future.

The developers may not want to use these terms yet, but it doesn't mean that it isn't true.

 

"I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you." - Robin Williams

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