Originally posted by Flute

Originally posted by Hancakes

 Are you joking? You're comparing the activity of the entire mmorpg.com site to Darkfalls?

Yes I am, and I'm saying that Darkfall is in real danger of appealing to about 1000 players, given half the people on those forums seem to hate what they have seen from the two tiny videos, and nearly no-one in the wider gaming world seems to either know nor care about Darkfall's re-release. 

Keep talking out your butt. The darkfall forum alone has increase its membership several thousand in the past two weeks, plus there's already 401,870 registered

DF-UW is listed number one here on mmorpg.com (Members:1,912,306)
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/875/Darkfall-Unholy-Wars.html

Its like another round of SWG crybabies....DF1 is gone, move on.

No such thing as bad publicity.

*walks off chuckling*

Bring on Nov 20.

I wouldn't be too proud of those numbers, I have also seen a lot of automated spam messages for handbags, jackets and other things on the DF forums, every one of those botted messages is probably a +1 to that site's membership.

The real tests will be whether Aventurine launches on time, has a credible playerbase, and whether the game is remotely similar to the advertised game.  Given they seem to be saying nothing they will be safe on #3, but that risks #2, and given how little we have seen of the game, #1 has to be in question now as well.  After all, they don't even have pre-orders up yet, right?

Originally posted by Hancakes

Credible playerbase?

 

 

 

 

Oh another forum fluffer

lol pardon?

We all know that Darkfall 1.0 ceased to be a fun game when it took 3 hour to find PvP.  If the playerbase is too small at launch, people will not continue to play.  The game has to have a credible player base, as all such PvP games need.  Themeparks don't actually need nearly as large nor as stable a playerbase - the ride is the same no matter how many duplicate copies of a dungeon are created (or not) at a time.  Darkfall is like EVE though - without players, the game would be truely pointless.  As such, it has to acquire and retain a credible playerbase, or it will collapse.  EVE proves that FFA pvp games with full loot can not only survive, but can thrive over the long term.  Whether Aventurine can emulate that success, and build on the lessons of their failed Darkfall 1.0 game, remains to be seen. 

Originally posted by Flute

I wouldn't be too proud of those numbers, I have also seen a lot of automated spam messages for handbags, jackets and other things on the DF forums, every one of those botted messages is probably a +1 to that site's membership.

 

The real tests will be whether Aventurine launches on time, has a credible playerbase, and whether the game is remotely similar to the advertised game.  Given they seem to be saying nothing they will be safe on #3, but that risks #2, and given how little we have seen of the game, #1 has to be in question now as well.  After all, they don't even have pre-orders up yet, right?

flute give it a rest there isnt going to be pre orders

Originally posted by Flute

Originally posted by Hancakes

Credible playerbase?

 

 

 

 

Oh another forum fluffer

lol pardon?

 

We all know that Darkfall 1.0 ceased to be a fun game when it took 3 hour to find PvP.  If the playerbase is too small at launch, people will not continue to play.  The game has to have a credible player base, as all such PvP games need.  Themeparks don't actually need nearly as large nor as stable a playerbase - the ride is the same no matter how many duplicate copies of a dungeon are created (or not) at a time.  Darkfall is like EVE though - without players, the game would be truely pointless.  As such, it has to acquire and retain a credible playerbase, or it will collapse.  EVE proves that FFA pvp games with full loot can not only survive, but can thrive over the long term.  Whether Aventurine can emulate that success, and build on the lessons of their failed Darkfall 1.0 game, remains to be seen. 

hell for 10 or 15 to give the new game a go ill take it

Originally posted by Raxeon

hell for 10 or 15 to give the new game a go ill take it

I never said I wouldn't give it a try, as I said in another thread here it will be interesting, I played Dark and Light because it was interesting too, it's Han who has the blind faith wedged into hyperdrive.

Originally posted by Flute

Originally posted by Raxeon

i tried dust514 its garbage

That's a shame: redeemable garbage or fundamentally flawed beyond all hope of ever being not garbage?

i mean i just dont like it other people might the game it self works fine just it should have been on pc the ps3 is limiting it so much

Originally posted by Flute

Originally posted by Raxeon

hell for 10 or 15 to give the new game a go ill take it

I never said I wouldn't give it a try, as I said in another thread here it will be interesting, I played Dark and Light because it was interesting too, it's Han who has the blind faith wedged into hyperdrive.

this game is a ton more playable than dark and light ever was. darkfall problem is just flaws with the mechanics 

Phew, that's ok then.  CCP have let slip that they plan to keep Dust indefinitely, so it will probably be around long after PS3 has slipped into the place all old consoles go.

Edit - yup yup, DnL faceplanted big time.  It actually will be entertaining playing Df:UW to see what happens, it will likely have a spectacular and memorable first month; whether it makes it past that first month only time will tell. 

Originally posted by Flute

Phew, that's ok then.  CCP have let slip that they plan to keep Dust indefinitely, so it will probably be around long after PS3 has slipped into the place all old consoles go.

 

Edit - yup yup, DnL faceplanted big time.  It actually will be entertaining playing Df:UW to see what happens, it will likely have a spectacular and memorable first month; whether it makes it past that first month only time will tell. 

of course i made it 2 months in the reginal but that was with the beta i just couldnt do anything with the combat pvp : (

Originally posted by Flute
DnL had pvp?!  I never found anyone else in-game to pvp lol   I did really enjoy going to the top of mountains, snowboarding half way down then gliding over the glacial valleys.  Great world concept, horrible horrible well, pretty much everything else that wasn't the view, snowboarding or gliding.

im talking about darkfall dnl i lasted 5 secs

Aventurine is known for deleting negative posts BUT they only remove posts that are nothing more then pure negativity.  they wont remove negative post if it is constructive.

Its forumfall after all, the forums here at mmorpg.com are moderated 10 times stricter then the ones of darkfall and you cant blame them for removing some things, they are trying to sell their product + it is their forums.

Originally posted by Flute

Originally posted by Falesh
So all the negative stuff, up to and including "F*** (not censored on the DF forum) YOU AV.", in this thread does not exist? I just re-read it and I'm pretty sure that if I can read it so can others. There are already a lot of threads about the update, it was not neccasary for you to create another one and it got locked.

Oh right, people can express thier veiws but only in places that it won't be read.  Gotcha.

 

P.s. be careful about assumptions you make - they are just that, assumptions. 

shhhh now, stop being silly.

You worry to much about the wrong things.

Go donate to a charity and save a life of a starving child or something.

Originally posted by bubaluba
I would delete to all of negative post. It is enough of this stupid trolls all over the forums. Someone want that, someone want some other things and bla bla bla goes on. There is no place for democracy sometimes

What you describe is fascism.

If a company cannot learn from negative constructive feedback then they are missing a trick.

Trolling aside, there needs to be leeway for customers to discuss anything about the product they have paid for, be that positive or negative.

While imo DF is one of the worst mmo's ever made and DF:UW looks equally terrible Aventurine are normally quite fair and liberal with their moderation, can't really fault them. I have had threads that have been allowed to run for weeks because the discussions were constructive and civil, not trolling and the mods have actually weeded out and deleted troll posts that attempted to de-rail the discussion.

A lot of other official forums are not so tollerant.

Originally posted by Flute

Originally posted by Raxeon

hell for 10 or 15 to give the new game a go ill take it

 it's Han who has the blind faith wedged into hyperdrive.

Blind faith, where are you getting that?  I've only said UWs population wont be an issue at launch given theres only 2 servers. (NA/Euro) , number of past players and current interest.  These players sticking around after the first month is another story.

Originally posted by coxyroxy

You worry to much about the wrong things.

Go donate to a charity and save a life of a starving child or something.

Already do.

Millions and millions, u do know Adventurine is Greek right :)