Originally posted by Torgrim

Originally posted by Rimmersman

Originally posted by Xasapis
This game is as streamlined as any other themepark mmorpg on the market. It's nice that you're having fun OP, but you could change the game title and you could have the exact same reaction on pretty much every other themepark out there.

Yeah, is the OP saying that GW2 is a difficult game, so difficult that he does not know what to do lol. GW2 is a noob friendly game it's so straight forward that you would have to be 6 years old to feel like a noob playing the game.

If the OP really wants to feel like a noob then i susgest he plays EVE or even the secret world until he figures it out.

I found GW2 to be so easy that it was laughable.

 

 

EVE has a robust Tutorial nowdays so I fail to see your point.

EVE's complexities are not in the game proper, but in the Meta-Game. No tutorials on that.

I'm not sure why I'm bothering to explain my post more to the people who just love starting arguments, but I will anyways.  But in the end, the people who know what I mean, know what I mean.  The others who enjoy starting arguments on forums will keep doing that I guess.  I also find it funny the people who as soon as you mention complicated or different, they shout Eve at the top of their lungs, but anyways....

I never said that the game was hard, or overly hard to learn.  Yes, I'm aware of the existance of EVE and how hard/complex it is.  I'm also aware that GW2 is not as difficult to learn as EVE is.  That said, GW2 does have many new things, and mechanics.  Hearts for example are a new spin on quests.  I did not spend 20 minutes staring at the screen trying to figure it out, it's obvious, but still, it's different and enjoyable (at least for now.)  PvP too, I didn't just run around like an idiot.  I quickly figured out what to do and where to go.  What I was saying is that it wasn't the same old capture the flag, or obvious pvp copies in many other games.

Keep in mind that this is a first impression post more than anything.  I've only started a couple of days ago.

Originally posted by leojreimroc

I'm not sure why I'm bothering to explain my post more to the people who just love starting arguments, but I will anyways.  But in the end, the people who know what I mean, know what I mean.  The others who enjoy starting arguments on forums will keep doing that I guess.  I also find it funny the people who as soon as you mention complicated or different, they shout Eve at the top of their lungs, but anyways....

 

I never said that the game was hard, or overly hard to learn.  Yes, I'm aware of the existance of EVE and how hard/complex it is.  I'm also aware that GW2 is not as difficult to learn as EVE is.  That said, GW2 does have many new things, and mechanics.  Hearts for example are a new spin on quests.  I did not spend 20 minutes staring at the screen trying to figure it out, it's obvious, but still, it's different and enjoyable (at least for now.)  PvP too, I didn't just run around like an idiot.  I quickly figured out what to do and where to go.  What I was saying is that it wasn't the same old capture the flag, or obvious pvp copies in many other games.

Keep in mind that this is a first impression post more than anything.  I've only started a couple of days ago.

Don't let the 'Negative Nancy's' get you down. If you like the game - good for you. If you don't - good for you. Don't tell someone that they are noobs or any other such nonsense because they enjoy GW2. I tried Eve a nd found it boorish and utterly elitist and I think that is what bothering people. There is no - "I am Elitist becuae I got UBER everything'.

If you dont like the game, just say it. Same with the people who like it - just say it.

Then let's get to the objective discussions.

Originally posted by leojreimroc

I'm not sure why I'm bothering to explain my post more to the people who just love starting arguments, but I will anyways.  But in the end, the people who know what I mean, know what I mean.  The others who enjoy starting arguments on forums will keep doing that I guess.  I also find it funny the people who as soon as you mention complicated or different, they shout Eve at the top of their lungs, but anyways....

 

I never said that the game was hard, or overly hard to learn.  Yes, I'm aware of the existance of EVE and how hard/complex it is.  I'm also aware that GW2 is not as difficult to learn as EVE is.  That said, GW2 does have many new things, and mechanics.  Hearts for example are a new spin on quests.  I did not spend 20 minutes staring at the screen trying to figure it out, it's obvious, but still, it's different and enjoyable (at least for now.)  PvP too, I didn't just run around like an idiot.  I quickly figured out what to do and where to go.  What I was saying is that it wasn't the same old capture the flag, or obvious pvp copies in many other games.

Keep in mind that this is a first impression post more than anything.  I've only started a couple of days ago.

yea don't let people get you down.. the game is great it's to me the most unique themepark to be released in a very very long time.. has a ton of new ways to approach a themepark and many things don't hold your hand as much as other newer themeparks. You can say hey to me ingame.. usually on my ranger Asgoth or my thief Aerowyn or my Guardian Vixtrola :)

Originally posted by Xasapis
This game is as streamlined as any other themepark mmorpg on the market. It's nice that you're having fun OP, but you could change the game title and you could have the exact same reaction on pretty much every other themepark out there.

Doubt it, GW2 was the first to give me that feeling since Everquest 13 years ago. Rift, WoW, TSW and all the rest just felt like poor Everquest clones to me.

Trinity-less PvP and inter-class combos definitely add a new layer of complexity to do well at PvP. Teamwork is far more important and makes the PvP side of the game far more complex than someone spamming a heal macro and running in circles around a pillar like an idiot while the rest of the team tries to gank the other healer/s.

Originally posted by leojreimroc

I'm not sure why I'm bothering to explain my post more to the people who just love starting arguments, but I will anyways.  But in the end, the people who know what I mean, know what I mean.  The others who enjoy starting arguments on forums will keep doing that I guess.  I also find it funny the people who as soon as you mention complicated or different, they shout Eve at the top of their lungs, but anyways....

 

I never said that the game was hard, or overly hard to learn.  Yes, I'm aware of the existance of EVE and how hard/complex it is.  I'm also aware that GW2 is not as difficult to learn as EVE is.  That said, GW2 does have many new things, and mechanics.  Hearts for example are a new spin on quests.  I did not spend 20 minutes staring at the screen trying to figure it out, it's obvious, but still, it's different and enjoyable (at least for now.)  PvP too, I didn't just run around like an idiot.  I quickly figured out what to do and where to go.  What I was saying is that it wasn't the same old capture the flag, or obvious pvp copies in many other games.

Keep in mind that this is a first impression post more than anything.  I've only started a couple of days ago.

Dude, it's MMORPG.com. Making a positive thread about any game (especially a popular one) attracts all kinds of trolls and haters in a matter of seconds. Don't pay any attention to them and you will be better off.

Glad you're enjoying the game.

Anet has put so much depth into this game.  Much of what I appreciate is not necessarilly all the combat mechanics, but the little stories and vignettes that show up in the world, if you are paying attention.  My world view of the Charr was focused by a little conversation exchange occuring in the Dark Citadel.  Working through a DE line, I got a request to help someone 'visit some friends'.  It turned out it was a journey to a graveyard to give regards to fallen comrades.  From the names on the graves, I got the suspicion it was a rememberance of absent Anet folks.  There are scads of wonderful little stories I have run across.   Now if that sort of thing doesn't appeal to you, then it's just fluff, but it has kept me quite interested.

I tend to turn off the markers when in new zones I am exploring, though I will turn them on again at the point I am getting close to zone completions, just as externalized memories of where I have been.

Originally posted by Rimmersman

Originally posted by Xasapis
This game is as streamlined as any other themepark mmorpg on the market. It's nice that you're having fun OP, but you could change the game title and you could have the exact same reaction on pretty much every other themepark out there.

Yeah, is the OP saying that GW2 is a difficult game, so difficult that he does not know what to do lol. GW2 is a noob friendly game it's so straight forward that you would have to be 6 years old to feel like a noob playing the game.

If the OP really wants to feel like a noob then i susgest he plays EVE or even the secret world until he figures it out.

I found GW2 to be so easy that it was laughable.

 

Yeah, that's not what the OP was saying at all.

Originally posted by Arglebargle

Anet has put so much depth into this game.  Much of what I appreciate is not necessarilly all the combat mechanics, but the little stories and vignettes that show up in the world, if you are paying attention.  My world view of the Charr was focused by a little conversation exchange occuring in the Dark Citadel.  Working through a DE line, I got a request to help someone 'visit some friends'.  It turned out it was a journey to a graveyard to give regards to fallen comrades.  From the names on the graves, I got the suspicion it was a rememberance of absent Anet folks.  There are scads of wonderful little stories I have run across.   Now if that sort of thing doesn't appeal to you, then it's just fluff, but it has kept me quite interested.

 

I tend to turn off the markers when in new zones I am exploring, though I will turn them on again at the point I am getting close to zone completions, just as externalized memories of where I have been.

exact same way I play:)