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  silverreign

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10/26/12 9:02:02 AM#21


Originally posted by jdnewell
Rift is one of the better MMOs on the market IMO.

All the free content, updates, events ( that dont require real money to enjoy ), ect make it well worth the sub fee. If your hung up on $15 a month then nothing anyone says will really persuade you anyways. F2P and B2P you usually get what you pay for.

Yes even with GW2 ( and I am a fan who plays almost daily ). I guess I am old school and would rather pay a sub and not get nickle and dimed to death from the F2P / B2P models. I personally would be happier paying $15 month with GW2 and have no gem store than the current model. But I realize I am in the minority here.

Good luck with whatever you choose =)



i couldnt agree more. most people end up spending more than 15 a month on a f2p game. i did with lotro and cox. i would rather just spend 15 and have it all open and available to me.
but ur right, we r the minority. its like all the people playing nowadays r the kids/college people that cant afford the sub fee. might not really b the way it is but it sure seems like it. 15$ is 2 big mac meals a month. just sayin.

  Arakazi

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10/26/12 9:03:10 AM#22

Your loss IMO. But I would say that leveling in this game is the most boring part. Rift doesn't truly open up till the endgame. Would also add that although it isn't the best looking game out there, I would say it looks better than most although I agree that the sound direction is the worse part of the game.

I wouldn't be so quick to praise GW2 BTP model just yet because I have a feeling that their cash shop will expand given it's prominence on the client.

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  Caldrin

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10/26/12 9:03:30 AM#23

@ OP then you know what dont play..

If you really enjoyed the game you would have no issues subbing up.. why come and post on here telling people you dont like the game enough to sub?

 

I dont like it at all but im not posting on here complaining about it (or maybe i just did haha)

 

 

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  Then

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10/26/12 9:03:47 AM#24

Here is my 2cents, Rift is worth every penny, I have been subbed since start, and will sub unless something better is out there.

Frankly nothing better xists, esp from a dev side, these guys are on AWEsome drugs :P, and it shows :).

 

The end-game rocks, the PA system rocks, the IA rocks, the PVP rocks, the Conquest ROCKS!

There are no current game that gives you what Rift does, and I don't see any other game doing it any time soon.

Had some real hopes for TSW, but even though its a good game, it just isn't one Rifts lvl, and neighter are your B2P GW2.

 

For me P2P will always wins, its a matter of money makes the world go rond. So well supported dev team = great game.

Cash store = greedy bastards = poor game, because all they can think about is how 2 max profit in the store.

That is the last thing devs should be thinking about when making AWEsome content.

 

In the end, that is all we want, CONTENT, and if I get to pay 15$$ for content, I will pay it, because hey!!! that is a great Deal :)

Ppl that can't / won't pay 15$$ should concider not playing MMo's.

 

I even live in a country where my money/currency is worth less than 8-12 times most ppls and I can affort to sub to more than one game at the same time, so I just don't get it.

 

If you drink and smoke you should concider your health and save money...

 

Anyway that is enough, Pay and play Rift, otherwise go play some other crappy B2p of F2p game.

  lifeordinary

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10/26/12 9:04:15 AM#25
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by alancode
Omg I don't see how people have a problem paying a TINY tiny 15 dollars a month....really? really. Going to the movie theater on friday night with your buds is more than 15 dollars...and that is for 2 hours...It is just 15 bucks

I don't have a problem paying 15 dollars a month but if i can get it for free i'll take that over 15 dollars a month. if i offered you  two tickets to the cinema and said one was free and the other is 15 dollars, which one would you take?

Then i will take ticket to the movie i have interest in and not only because ticket is free even though movie is garbage.

  silverreign

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It is what it is

10/26/12 9:04:44 AM#26


Originally posted by Istavaan

Originally posted by alancode Omg I don't see how people have a problem paying a TINY tiny 15 dollars a month....really? really. Going to the movie theater on friday night with your buds is more than 15 dollars...and that is for 2 hours...It is just 15 bucks
I don't have a problem paying 15 dollars a month but if i can get it for free i'll take that over 15 dollars a month. if i offered you  two tickets to the cinema and said one was free and the other is 15 dollars, which one would you take?


but then ur implying that both tickets r the same. f2p and p2p r not the same. cant compare them.

  JackFrosty

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10/26/12 9:05:32 AM#27
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Rimmersman
Originally posted by JackFrosty
Then stop complaining and go back to GW2. Bye.

Lol, the thing is all these players saying they can never pay for a sub again are going to come unstuck. If they think subs died with the release of GW2 then they are delusional.

All they are doing is limiting the amount of MMOs they can play.

we will see when the next round of mmo's are released..planetside is next and is free 2 play. can you name an mmorpg coming out soon that will have a sub? Subcriptions are dead.

Sorry it took me a few minutes to stop laughing to reply.

Subs are dead yet the most successful MMO in history still has 10 million subs 8 yrs later and counting.

Add to that the fact that TITAN is going to be sub based and crush everything on the market when it arrives and you think sub-based is dead. lol.

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  Then

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10/26/12 9:07:37 AM#28
On a very positive note, JackFrosty, luv your profile pic :D :P :D :P
  Istavaan

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10/26/12 9:11:05 AM#29
Originally posted by JackFrosty
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Rimmersman
Originally posted by JackFrosty
Then stop complaining and go back to GW2. Bye.

Lol, the thing is all these players saying they can never pay for a sub again are going to come unstuck. If they think subs died with the release of GW2 then they are delusional.

All they are doing is limiting the amount of MMOs they can play.

we will see when the next round of mmo's are released..planetside is next and is free 2 play. can you name an mmorpg coming out soon that will have a sub? Subcriptions are dead.

Sorry it took me a few minutes to stop laughing to reply.

Subs are dead yet the most successful MMO in history still has 10 million subs 8 yrs later and counting.

Add to that the fact that TITAN is going to be sub based and crush everything on the market when it arrives and you think sub-based is dead. lol.

well i'm laughing at you now, because only one mmo can maintain subs every other mmo has gone f2p..that is one mmo out of dozens and dozens. you don't know anything about titan or whether it will be sub based or f2p, but the fanboi is strong in you. you think a game that you know nothing about will crush everything..can i borrow your crystal ball please?

  Caldrin

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10/26/12 9:15:15 AM#30

Many MMOs have been sub based and are infact still sub based.. WOW is not the only one..

 

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  jdnewell

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10/26/12 9:15:17 AM#31
Originally posted by JackFrosty
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Rimmersman
Originally posted by JackFrosty
Then stop complaining and go back to GW2. Bye.

Lol, the thing is all these players saying they can never pay for a sub again are going to come unstuck. If they think subs died with the release of GW2 then they are delusional.

All they are doing is limiting the amount of MMOs they can play.

we will see when the next round of mmo's are released..planetside is next and is free 2 play. can you name an mmorpg coming out soon that will have a sub? Subcriptions are dead.

Sorry it took me a few minutes to stop laughing to reply.

Subs are dead yet the most successful MMO in history still has 10 million subs 8 yrs later and counting.

Add to that the fact that TITAN is going to be sub based and crush everything on the market when it arrives and you think sub-based is dead. lol.

What I think is even more LOL worthy is that people playing " F2P " games usually spend way more than $15 a month, often much more, even into the $100s of dollars. Just look at some of the halloween event posts on GW2.

Then these same people will rail and whine, bitch and moan if they had to pay $15 a month. I bet in 2 months if you asked those same people who just dropped $100s in GW2 cash shop to pay $15 a month they would act like the world was ending.

And I bet a good many of them spend more than $15 a month of much lesser entertainment, like movies, or 8 hour length ps3/360 games, or their online porn sub, ect. Thats what I think is really funny.

  Vannor

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10/26/12 9:18:09 AM#32
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Rimmersman
Originally posted by JackFrosty
Then stop complaining and go back to GW2. Bye.

Lol, the thing is all these players saying they can never pay for a sub again are going to come unstuck. If they think subs died with the release of GW2 then they are delusional.

All they are doing is limiting the amount of MMOs they can play.

we will see when the next round of mmo's are released..planetside is next and is free 2 play. can you name an mmorpg coming out soon that will have a sub? Subcriptions are dead.

I don't get why you think an MMORPG and MMOFPS should be compared to each other.

You know Trion just got something like an extra $85 million in funding at the start of this year don't you? If you don't think Rift is turning a massive profit you are pretty ignorant. In 2011 they got over $100 million in revenue.

I hope you realise this means around 85% of the game's revenue was put back into the game. A percentage almost every other publisher out there would never ever put back into their game, including Blizzard/Activision. This is partly why the expansion next month is much much much larger than any offered by any other MMO, to my knowledge. Almost all your sub fee is going back into the game (after they covered the original game's development costs).

 

  NLights

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10/26/12 9:20:20 AM#33
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by alancode
Omg I don't see how people have a problem paying a TINY tiny 15 dollars a month....really? really. Going to the movie theater on friday night with your buds is more than 15 dollars...and that is for 2 hours...It is just 15 bucks

One movie night with wife costs me anywhere between 50 to 100 bucks, because well can't just go back home after watching a movie. 15 bucks is like a pocket change for whole month of entertainment.

I used to always thing the same thing when people complained about sub fees, and even more so when they'd be outraged over server down time taking to the forums stating that they'd better get a refund.  "If a $15/game is down for one day, that's like 50 cents...  Are you really going to belly ache over that?"

What's changed to me though is that as a gamer, at any given time I have a bunch of subs going to MMOS, not to mention that these are on top of other entertainment subs such as HBO, Showtime, Netflix, X-Box live, Spotify, Club Penguin for the kid, the occasional on demand movie, the occasional I-Tunes purchase etc..  

All in all I pay well over $150 a month for entertainment subscriptions alone, and while it's a valid point that this is still cheap considering what I get out of them in comparison to e.g. going to the movies or what not, it still racks up.  As such I look with a much more critical eye on what I'm going to pay for before I just think "Hey what's another $15", and I actually agree with the original poster.  Considering that I can play GW2 for free Rift just isnt that much better, nor different a game to warrant a sub-fee.

  JackFrosty

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10/26/12 9:20:25 AM#34
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by JackFrosty
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Rimmersman
Originally posted by JackFrosty
Then stop complaining and go back to GW2. Bye.

Lol, the thing is all these players saying they can never pay for a sub again are going to come unstuck. If they think subs died with the release of GW2 then they are delusional.

All they are doing is limiting the amount of MMOs they can play.

we will see when the next round of mmo's are released..planetside is next and is free 2 play. can you name an mmorpg coming out soon that will have a sub? Subcriptions are dead.

Sorry it took me a few minutes to stop laughing to reply.

Subs are dead yet the most successful MMO in history still has 10 million subs 8 yrs later and counting.

Add to that the fact that TITAN is going to be sub based and crush everything on the market when it arrives and you think sub-based is dead. lol.

well i'm laughing at you now, because only one mmo can maintain subs every other mmo has gone f2p..that is one mmo out of dozens and dozens. you don't know anything about titan or whether it will be sub based or f2p, but the fanboi is strong in you. you think a game that you know nothing about will crush everything..can i borrow your crystal ball please?

 

WoW is sub based and the most successful MMO in history. Subs are not dead. Deal with it.

 

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  NLights

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10/26/12 9:21:28 AM#35
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by alancode
Omg I don't see how people have a problem paying a TINY tiny 15 dollars a month....really? really. Going to the movie theater on friday night with your buds is more than 15 dollars...and that is for 2 hours...It is just 15 bucks

One movie night with wife costs me anywhere between 50 to 100 bucks, because well can't just go back home after watching a movie. 15 bucks is like a pocket change for whole month of entertainment.

dpost

  Icewhite

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10/26/12 9:27:14 AM#36
Why do people argue about this?

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  Arkain

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10/26/12 9:32:00 AM#37
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by JackFrosty
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Rimmersman
Originally posted by JackFrosty
Then stop complaining and go back to GW2. Bye.

Lol, the thing is all these players saying they can never pay for a sub again are going to come unstuck. If they think subs died with the release of GW2 then they are delusional.

All they are doing is limiting the amount of MMOs they can play.

we will see when the next round of mmo's are released..planetside is next and is free 2 play. can you name an mmorpg coming out soon that will have a sub? Subcriptions are dead.

Sorry it took me a few minutes to stop laughing to reply.

Subs are dead yet the most successful MMO in history still has 10 million subs 8 yrs later and counting.

Add to that the fact that TITAN is going to be sub based and crush everything on the market when it arrives and you think sub-based is dead. lol.

well i'm laughing at you now, because only one mmo can maintain subs every other mmo has gone f2p..that is one mmo out of dozens and dozens. you don't know anything about titan or whether it will be sub based or f2p, but the fanboi is strong in you. you think a game that you know nothing about will crush everything..can i borrow your crystal ball please?

That one mmo has more players then all others combined so yea, subs rule.

if you want to know for sure thien just add up all the mmo players that are willing to pay a sub vs. the ones that are not.

Even on the FTP MMOs (EQ, EQ2, Conan, etc) a large part of the players pay for a sub the only AAA FTP MMOs that do not have a sub option is GW and GW2.

Most players want to pay a sub for a game.

Do the math first, really you should, it is helpful. 

  JeroKane

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10/26/12 9:33:16 AM#38
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Rimmersman
Originally posted by JackFrosty
Then stop complaining and go back to GW2. Bye.

Lol, the thing is all these players saying they can never pay for a sub again are going to come unstuck. If they think subs died with the release of GW2 then they are delusional.

All they are doing is limiting the amount of MMOs they can play.

we will see when the next round of mmo's are released..planetside is next and is free 2 play. can you name an mmorpg coming out soon that will have a sub? Subcriptions are dead.

Nothing is Free 2 Play!

If you really think you're going to have any fun in Planetside 2 without spending a dime! LOL! Good luck my friend.

  jdnewell

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Joined: 7/04/06
Posts: 1846

10/26/12 9:33:32 AM#39

Why do people argue over anything? especially when its all a matter of opinion anyways.

Human nature I suppose.

  Arakazi

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10/26/12 9:37:44 AM#40
Originally posted by jdnewell
Originally posted by JackFrosty
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Rimmersman
Originally posted by JackFrosty
Then stop complaining and go back to GW2. Bye.

Lol, the thing is all these players saying they can never pay for a sub again are going to come unstuck. If they think subs died with the release of GW2 then they are delusional.

All they are doing is limiting the amount of MMOs they can play.

we will see when the next round of mmo's are released..planetside is next and is free 2 play. can you name an mmorpg coming out soon that will have a sub? Subcriptions are dead.

Sorry it took me a few minutes to stop laughing to reply.

Subs are dead yet the most successful MMO in history still has 10 million subs 8 yrs later and counting.

Add to that the fact that TITAN is going to be sub based and crush everything on the market when it arrives and you think sub-based is dead. lol.

What I think is even more LOL worthy is that people playing " F2P " games usually spend way more than $15 a month, often much more, even into the $100s of dollars. Just look at some of the halloween event posts on GW2.

Then these same people will rail and whine, bitch and moan if they had to pay $15 a month. I bet in 2 months if you asked those same people who just dropped $100s in GW2 cash shop to pay $15 a month they would act like the world was ending.

And I bet a good many of them spend more than $15 a month of much lesser entertainment, like movies, or 8 hour length ps3/360 games, or their online porn sub, ect. Thats what I think is really funny.

^this^. The number one reason I prefer subs is that it keeps my costs under control. When I get my salary at the end of each month I know exactly how much money I have to spend on games and entertainment. I detests the f2p model with a passion with their blatant and in your face pop ups you get everytime you log in and the fact you have to keep spending to get the most out of the game. Screw that. I want to pay my sub and never have to worry about potions, locked dungeons, locked classes and limited bag space etc. And when I PvP I will never have to worry about some guy having an advantage because of a magical item he bought from the cash shot. No thanks.

Oh sure, I could play their game for nothing and grind and grind and grind just to get on a level playing field. But that's a stupid way to spend your free time. I've played a number of FTP MMOs and the only advantage I ever saw was that I didn't have to cancel a sub and I could return whenever I felt like it. Apart from that, it cost me more for what was an inferior game. Besides if you can't afford to $15 for a monthly sub but can afford to spend hours and hours on MMOs, quite frankly you have bigger problems.

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