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  Vhaln

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10/25/12 4:08:19 PM#121
Originally posted by Creslin321

 Yeah exactly...you know, instead of constantly griping about how these stupid skins are an RNG drop from a paid item (like that's new), maybe these people should start thinking about why they just have to have these freaking skins.

I mean really...are these skins SUCH a big deal, that you just HAVE to waste ungodly amounts of money buying which are essentially baseball card packs, hoping that you get a rare card (skin).  Exercise some willpower here.  If you HAVE to have a stupid skin in a game, and you are willing to waste a large amount of money on it then something is wrong here, and I'm not talking about the game.

 

 

I saw someone compare it to those rigged games at carnivals, where you spend money for a chance at a giant stuffed toy that's actually pretty crappy, or a bunch of other gimmicky stuff.  

 

Some people find that pure simple fun, others just consider it a scam, most of us have long since gotten over caring one way or another, or expecting to be anything other than what it is.   There'a a sucker born every minute, and that's what a lot of it is all about.   I think there are a lot of accurate paralells with that comparison, and for me, the issue is just..

 

I'd expected better than that.

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  Aerowyn

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OP  10/25/12 4:28:04 PM#122
Originally posted by Vhaln
 

 

I saw someone compare it to those rigged games at carnivals, where you spend money for a chance at a giant stuffed toy that's actually pretty crappy, or a bunch of other gimmicky stuff.  

 

Some people find that pure simple fun, others just consider it a scam, most of us have long since gotten over caring one way or another, or expecting to be anything other than what it is.   There'a a sucker born every minute, and that's what a lot of it is all about.   I think there are a lot of accurate paralells with that comparison, and for me, the issue is just..

 

I'd expected better than that.

what if in the carnival you could ride the rides for free as many times as you wanted and each time you rid those rides you earned a token and what if you could take these tokens and turn them in to allow you to get another shot at those prizes from the games? would you call that a scam? (obviously assuming the prizes were not rigged and unwinnable)

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  Vhaln

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10/25/12 4:43:48 PM#123
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Vhaln

I saw someone compare it to those rigged games at carnivals, where you spend money for a chance at a giant stuffed toy that's actually pretty crappy, or a bunch of other gimmicky stuff.  

Some people find that pure simple fun, others just consider it a scam, most of us have long since gotten over caring one way or another, or expecting to be anything other than what it is.   There'a a sucker born every minute, and that's what a lot of it is all about.   I think there are a lot of accurate paralells with that comparison, and for me, the issue is just..

I'd expected better than that.

what if in the carnival you could ride the rides for free as many times as you wanted and each time you rid those rides you earned a token and what if you could take these tokens and turn them in to allow you to get another shot at those prizes from the games? would you call that a scam? (obviously assuming the prizes were not rigged and unwinnable)

 

Depends.. if you can just have fun going on the rides a few times, to get enough tokens for something, that sounds like fun.  If you have to do them over and over - how many times?  Anyone want to even attempt the math?  The fun is going to start wearing pretty thin.

 

Have you really been getting lots of keys?  Or enough gold to blow on these halloween items at the trade post?  and if you do have that much gold, is that really what you want to spend it on?

 

Oh, but to answer the question, yes that sounds kinda scammy, like a common way to encourage people to just outright spend some cash, because the time investment is so over the top, and the odds are so bad.  It preys on the psychology of drawing people in, by giving the impression that spending real money isn't necessary, when it turns out that aside from a few lucky exceptions, it kinda is.

 

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  stevebmbsqd

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"Evolution thru Revolution"

10/25/12 5:03:55 PM#124
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by Kuinn
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by RizelStar
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by charlizd
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by sammyeli
I hear Crickets EVERY WHERE. ROFL

yea just find it odd people didn't consider the fact they are tradable which was stated before the patch even went live... any skin you want is up on the trading post.. so this whole argument was just well... anyways..

I know exactly how you feel....../facepalm to all the silly people out there.

Hey, Cool, only 25G for the shield? Nice, that's only about $50 bucks! What a steal!

...smh

lol for real.. so sad since really the big complaint was these items were a "gamble" to find.. now obviously that is not true and you can get ANY specific one you want with ingame gold at the trading post. some are expensive yes just like any rare item on any auction house in any MMO.. imagine that

What? ANET didn't just put them there, SOMEONE had to play the lottery. so a few lucky people are getting their gems back. Maybe.

But someone still had to play this game. You say so what, I didn't. Yeah, good for you, but the way you speak it's like there was no RNG. There was. Now, if someone wants the item, someoen else may have to drop some plastic down on the table and cough up even more gems. 

GG ANET, Double dipping. $50 bucks from player A for the keys, and $50 bucks from Player B who bough tthe gems!

 

I bought my keys with ingame gold. Stop whining at a problem which does not exist. I dont even find the skins very interesting on top of that.

 Yeah exactly...you know, instead of constantly griping about how these stupid skins are an RNG drop from a paid item (like that's new), maybe these people should start thinking about why they just have to have these freaking skins.

I mean really...are these skins SUCH a big deal, that you just HAVE to waste ungodly amounts of money buying which are essentially baseball card packs, hoping that you get a rare card (skin).  Exercise some willpower here.  If you HAVE to have a stupid skin in a game, and you are willing to waste a large amount of money on it then something is wrong here, and I'm not talking about the game.

Some people play these games to be collectors. They feel like they have to have these things. Others play simply to dress a doll. If it is their idea of fun, who are you or I to tell them different?

Edit: On a side note, I do see it as a little scammy, though it is to be expected. Did people honestly think everything was going to just be free? They do need to make money. It may not cost a lot of money to run servers, but it does to maintain a full development staff and continually produce content. I think too many people had this utopian idea of free and entitlement as projected by many people here and their posts against any form of a sub.... Well this is the alternative and I guess a lot of them don't like it.

  Aerowyn

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OP  10/25/12 5:10:01 PM#125
Originally posted by Vhaln

what if in the carnival you could ride the rides for free as many times as you wanted and each time you rid those rides you earned a token and what if you could take these tokens and turn them in to allow you to get another shot at those prizes from the games? would you call that a scam? (obviously assuming the prizes were not rigged and unwinnable)

 

Depends.. if you can just have fun going on the rides a few times, to get enough tokens for something, that sounds like fun.  If you have to do them over and over - how many times?  Anyone want to even attempt the math?  The fun is going to start wearing pretty thin.

 

Have you really been getting lots of keys?  Or enough gold to blow on these halloween items at the trade post?  and if you do have that much gold, is that really what you want to spend it on?

 

Oh, but to answer the question, yes that sounds kinda scammy, like a common way to encourage people to just outright spend some cash, because the time investment is so over the top, and the odds are so bad.  It preys on the psychology of drawing people in, by giving the impression that spending real money isn't necessary, when it turns out that aside from a few lucky exceptions, it kinda is.

 

you are not required to spend any money at all thats the whole point the time investment isn't over the top at all imho for a supposive "rare" skin all the shoulder peices are 2g or less and the weapon skins are dropping in price on the TP as the days pass.. people spending money do help out in getting a bigger pool of the items out there.. honestly the ONLY way i could see this being a problem was if the ksins were bind on pickup but as tradable items and have multiple ways to aquire them now I really can't fathom people still having an issue with how these skins can be aquired

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  Vhaln

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10/25/12 5:13:37 PM#126

You keep saying they're supposed to be rare, but that's where we just simply disagree.  I don't think most holiday event items should be rare, at all.

 

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  pierth

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10/25/12 5:14:50 PM#127


Originally posted by stevebmbsqd
Some people play these games to be collectors. They feel like they have to have these things. Others play simply to dress a doll. If it is their idea of fun, who are you or I to tell them different?

No one is telling them to stop liking the parts of the game they enjoy.


What I see in this thread is that there is no guarantee of those players receiving what they seek from spending real money on keys so they have no one to blame but themselves if they chose to do that and didn't get the skins.


Feeling like you have to have something is no proof of being entitled to it. It's nothing more than a check of self-control and some just don't have it.

  stevebmbsqd

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"Evolution thru Revolution"

10/25/12 5:35:31 PM#128
Originally posted by pierth

 


Originally posted by stevebmbsqd
Some people play these games to be collectors. They feel like they have to have these things. Others play simply to dress a doll. If it is their idea of fun, who are you or I to tell them different?

 

No one is telling them to stop liking the parts of the game they enjoy.


What I see in this thread is that there is no guarantee of those players receiving what they seek from spending real money on keys so they have no one to blame but themselves if they chose to do that and didn't get the skins.


Feeling like you have to have something is no proof of being entitled to it. It's nothing more than a check of self-control and some just don't have it.

You took this completely out of the context in which it was posted as it was a reply to something else. If you wish to comment, then comment on the post in the context of which it was posted. Don't seperate the post and make it out as something else.

  Aerowyn

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OP  10/25/12 5:36:42 PM#129
Originally posted by Vhaln

You keep saying they're supposed to be rare, but that's where we just simply disagree.  I don't think most holiday event items should be rare, at all.

 

most are not only about 4 skins are actually pretty rare rest are not

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  Vhaln

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10/25/12 5:44:16 PM#130
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Vhaln

You keep saying they're supposed to be rare, but that's where we just simply disagree.  I don't think most holiday event items should be rare, at all.

most are not only about 4 skins are actually pretty rare rest are not

and your definition of "rare" must be different than mine, too.. Or do most people have a couple of these event items, and I'm the only who doesn't? I got the backslot reward for the first part of the quest, at least, though.

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  Aerowyn

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OP  10/25/12 5:46:10 PM#131
Originally posted by Vhaln
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Vhaln

You keep saying they're supposed to be rare, but that's where we just simply disagree.  I don't think most holiday event items should be rare, at all.

most are not only about 4 skins are actually pretty rare rest are not

and your definition of "rare" must be different than mine, too.. Or do most people have a couple of these event items, and I'm the only who doesn't? I got the backslot reward for the first part of the quest, at least, though.

just look on the TP at the prices when you see over 100 of a skin with a price under a gold it's hardly considered "rare".. do a search for "deathly" see what you get

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  Vhaln

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10/25/12 6:34:27 PM#132

Checked in-game first, and ok, you mean the shoulderpads.  They do seem to have come down even further.  1.5 gold, at most.  I'm inclined to think people must not care about the shoulderpads, for some reason, but I don't know.  It could just be because they're shoulder armor, and not something more visible?  Or maybe people are still just upset because they didn't think the holiday event would be about camping the trading post?  Or are people just that deadset on the 2h weapons?

I don't have enough info, honestly.  I don't think its as cut&dry as you're making it out to be, though.

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  Aerowyn

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OP  10/25/12 6:40:03 PM#133
Originally posted by Vhaln

Checked in-game first, and ok, you mean the shoulderpads.  They do seem to have come down even further.  1.5 gold, at most.  I'm inclined to think people must not care about the shoulderpads, for some reason, but I don't know.  It could just be because they're shoulder armor, and not something more visible?  Or maybe people are still just upset because they didn't think the holiday event would be about camping the trading post?  Or are people just that deadset on the 2h weapons?

I don't have enough info, honestly.  I don't think its as cut&dry as you're making it out to be, though.

what's not cut and dry? people want some skins for the holiday event correct? you can easily get a neat looking pare of skull shouldpads for cheap on the TP.. shoulder skins range from 65 silver to 1.5 gold right now would take anyone not much time at all to get that.. if you are so inclined to get a weapon skin you can try your luck with the new halloween chests or the BLCs OR if you have the gold you can buy it on the TP.. still trying to see what the big deal is now?

imho greatsaw greatsword is by far the best looking skin it's at 32 gold right now on the TP and there's 52 avaialble as the event gets further along more and more should be up on the TP bringing that price down even more..

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  Vhaln

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10/25/12 6:57:00 PM#134

I just see a lot of bitching, and try to explain it.  I think anet could have done a much better job of just making sure everyone had fun.  I know, there will always be bitching about something, but it didn't have to be anywhere near this bad.  I think its likely a gross oversimplification to try to chalk it up to people just not checking the TP.

 

Me, though?  I think there are a number of items I haven't even seen yet, but the one I did like was the staff with the lantern on it.  I tried the 6s version and its kinda neat.  I don't even know where to get the permenent version of that.  The staff skin from chests appears to be the scythe instead, which doesn't interest me as much.  Maybe the permenent version of the lantern staff is coming in a later act.

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  Aerowyn

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OP  10/25/12 7:03:20 PM#135
Originally posted by Vhaln

I just see a lot of bitching, and try to explain it.  I think anet could have done a much better job of just making sure everyone had fun.  I know, there will always be bitching about something, but it didn't have to be anywhere near this bad.  I think its likely a gross oversimplification to try to chalk it up to people just not checking the TP.

 

Me, though?  I think there are a number of items I haven't even seen yet, but the one I did like was the staff with the lantern on it.  I tried the 6s version and its kinda neat.  I don't even know where to get the permenent version of that.  The staff skin from chests appears to be the scythe instead, which doesn't interest me as much.  Maybe the permenent version of the lantern staff is coming in a later act.

http://gw2.mmorpg-life.com/halloween-skins-compilation/53876/

The crossing is what I assume you are talking about.. yea haven't seen the perm skin for that yet.. greatsaw greatsword still by far my favorite.. ghastly grinning shield is pretty neat as well

 

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  Torvaldr

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10/25/12 7:10:12 PM#136
Originally posted by Vhaln

I just see a lot of bitching, and try to explain it.  I think anet could have done a much better job of just making sure everyone had fun.  I know, there will always be bitching about something, but it didn't have to be anywhere near this bad.  I think its likely a gross oversimplification to try to chalk it up to people just not checking the TP.

Me, though?  I think there are a number of items I haven't even seen yet, but the one I did like was the staff with the lantern on it.  I tried the 6s version and its kinda neat.  I don't even know where to get the permenent version of that.  The staff skin from chests appears to be the scythe instead, which doesn't interest me as much.  Maybe the permenent version of the lantern staff is coming in a later act.

What should they do to make sure everyone has more fun?  You can achieve things through game play, you can grind out gold to buy some stuff, you can grind out mats to forge some things, you can some with gems, and you can buy stuff from other players.

I've been having a great time doing event stuff and enjoy seeing the GW2 version of halloween that I'm used to seeing in GW1.

I'm not a fan of exclusively rare fluff either, especially not from a holiday, but ANet has had this same philosophy for about 7 years now.  It shouldn't be a huge surprise that they carry that over from GW1 to GW2.

Curse you AquaScum!

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10/25/12 7:21:47 PM#137


Originally posted by Torvaldr

Originally posted by Foomerang

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Foomerang  

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Foomerang Cool. Maybe next time youll be able to play some cool new dungeon or DE for that type of stuff. (Hehe sorry man im totally just bustin balls here. Couldnt resist). :D
actually 30 new events this patch and supposed ot be a large content patch next month:)
And yet they sell the best shinies in an rng cash shop....  
actually not really seen better looking outside the CS.. actually way better looking.. but obviously looks are subjective.. if you look at the CS very little in the way of outfits is on there.. only one set per armor type and a couple "fashion" outfits and that's it
Im sure anet is testing the waters with what they can get away with right now. Looking at all the money they raked in today, id brace for impact if i were you haha
And that shopping cart icon in RIFT is there just to sell the xpac?  I've got news for you. (just bustin nuts back a little lol)

By the way, ANet is offering a free helm skin in the BLTC (their store acronym sounds like a sandwich).  I think that's rather cool.

You get a free event skin through the shop.  You can buy some stuff.  You can craft some stuff in the forge.  You can trade for otehr stuff.  And, of course, you can spend real life money  for some stuff if you want.  Seems like a good deal to me.

There are also in game achevements for the holiday event.  You can't buy the achievements in the cash shop.


Ill be the first to cancel my sub the minute trion puts rng cash shop items for sale at that stupid derps depot. I hate cash shops to begin with, but the whole rng for cash thing...no way

  Vhaln

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10/25/12 7:31:09 PM#138
Originally posted by Torvaldr

What should they do to make sure everyone has more fun?  You can achieve things through game play, you can grind out gold to buy some stuff, you can grind out mats to forge some things, you can some with gems, and you can buy stuff from other players.

I've been having a great time doing event stuff and enjoy seeing the GW2 version of halloween that I'm used to seeing in GW1.

I'm not a fan of exclusively rare fluff either, especially not from a holiday, but ANet has had this same philosophy for about 7 years now.  It shouldn't be a huge surprise that they carry that over from GW1 to GW2.

I didn't play the first GW, but I've seen lots of people saying this is not the case at all.  That they'd have rare fluff in the main game, but holiday events were more all inclusive?

 

@Aerowyn yeah, that's the staff I meant.

It's cute, but not something I'd invest in more seriously, trying to get.

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  Torvaldr

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10/25/12 7:39:25 PM#139
Originally posted by Vhaln
Originally posted by Torvaldr

What should they do to make sure everyone has more fun?  You can achieve things through game play, you can grind out gold to buy some stuff, you can grind out mats to forge some things, you can some with gems, and you can buy stuff from other players.

I've been having a great time doing event stuff and enjoy seeing the GW2 version of halloween that I'm used to seeing in GW1.

I'm not a fan of exclusively rare fluff either, especially not from a holiday, but ANet has had this same philosophy for about 7 years now.  It shouldn't be a huge surprise that they carry that over from GW1 to GW2.

I didn't play the first GW, but I've seen lots of people saying this is not the case at all.  That they'd have rare fluff in the main game, but holiday events were more all inclusive?

@Aerowyn yeah, that's the staff I meant.

It's cute, but not something I'd invest in more seriously, trying to get.

I like that staff, but like you I'm not going to spend my resources on stuff like that.  In GW1 there were common items from the events, usually something rare and hard to achieve and then a costume you could only buy off of the store for $10.

Curse you AquaScum!

  KingJiggly

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Definition for innovation is below. Your welcome.

10/25/12 7:40:38 PM#140

The prices of the skins have greatly fallen since their introduction to the trading post.

Prices shall continue falling, especially after the Mystical Forge update. Please save up the extra items you get from chests and make sure you use them in the forge for many Halloween style items and skins!

As the Acts (there are four... we are at 1) continue on, expect more and more items in the TP, hopefully you all will participate in the celebration!

Happy Halloween!

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