Originally posted by evolver1972

Originally posted by Pumuckl71

@evolver  being bored of a games content is no idication of bashing, flip flop it like you want.

however i do understand you being tired of hearing  constant negatives  bout a title you enjoy.

But nitpicking words and putting them into an personal viewpoint ... is cheesy and cheap. 

Suck it it down

Being bored of a game and stopping play isn't bashing it, I totally agree with that.

 

Starting a completely new topic in a subforum when there is already a place in that subforum to post your opinion is.  There is no other reason, really, to make it into a new topic other than to make sure as many people as possible see that you think the game is boring.  Apparently the reviews area of the subforum doesn't get enough exposure.

Its not a review, just him saying he was bored of the game. By your logic, if someone is saying they are playing the game, they should then post their thread in the review section as well? There is a big difference between a review and just stating a general feeling about the game. If you consider him posting "Hes tired of the game and won't be playing anymore" is considered a review, you really don't understand what a review is.

Sorry, but people posting they like the game would be just as viable to be put in that subforum as this one, and if they all were then this forum would be very empty very quick. 

Originally posted by Purutzil

Originally posted by evolver1972

Originally posted by Pumuckl71

@evolver  being bored of a games content is no idication of bashing, flip flop it like you want.

however i do understand you being tired of hearing  constant negatives  bout a title you enjoy.

But nitpicking words and putting them into an personal viewpoint ... is cheesy and cheap. 

Suck it it down

Being bored of a game and stopping play isn't bashing it, I totally agree with that.

 

Starting a completely new topic in a subforum when there is already a place in that subforum to post your opinion is.  There is no other reason, really, to make it into a new topic other than to make sure as many people as possible see that you think the game is boring.  Apparently the reviews area of the subforum doesn't get enough exposure.

Its not a review, just him saying he was bored of the game. By your logic, if someone is saying they are playing the game, they should then post their thread in the review section as well? There is a big difference between a review and just stating a general feeling about the game. If you consider him posting "Hes tired of the game and won't be playing anymore" is considered a review, you really don't understand what a review is.

 

Sorry, but people posting they like the game would be just as viable to be put in that subforum as this one, and if they all were then this forum would be very empty very quick. 

i'd say that's an impression which the section is called reviews and impressions and I agree good and bad should go in there

Originally posted by steelrain666
Finally got my first guy to 80! He's a ranger and took along time to level up, but now i'm working on my exotic berserker armor for him. Its going to take me along time before I fully deck him out, It's a fun game I can play for a hour or two. What's great is that if you get sick of it, you can come back in acouple months or so(No sub) and pick up where you left off. 

you could do that with any game though sub or not think the big thing with GW2 is coming back months later isn't going to put you way behind others..and with your level 80 you will be able to enjoy any content they add out the gate... to me that's the huge thing with non tier gear based games.. 

Originally posted by jpnole
Well I have to admit the initial spell of GW2 was pretty strong. More so than any MMO I have ever played. Alas... I logged in today after not playing for a couple weeks. I admit to being lured away by Torchlight 2, Dishonored, Borderlands 2 and the recent Skyrim patch/DLC. Yes I know they are not mmos. Anyway so I logged in and it hit me like a ton of bricks. I am done. Not much else to say. Got a Necro up to level 45 with articifer up to 225 but I just don't have it in me to take it any further. With 16% world completion there is absolutely no way I will ever find the motivation to continue. I remember swearing off themeparks after SWTOR. Well I'm going to try and swear them off again. We'll see. Anyway, back to the trusty single player/coop PC games. 

I feel much the same. Getting one char to level 80, I played a few dungeons a bit mor WvW and then it was GAME OVER for me. It was as if someone pulled a plug and all my zeal vaporised. I really enjoyed the 80 levels, totally, despite some minor issues. I had a blast. But I got to level 80 and my interest is dead. I tried to log back now, about 2-3 weeks after I stopped playing, but I simply could not bring myself to play, even with low level alts. *shrug*

It's really a pity, but that's how it is for me.

Again, I miss sandbox elements, which could keep me going. And the events rotate WAAAY too fast. In the first 5-10 levels it doesn't matter, but later on, it simply is sad and takes out some lasting pride of accomplishment, when 3 minutes later the Fort which I defended gets attacked again or whatever. Again, only phasing could help here. Also auto-grouping like in RIFT would help, because the automatic groups/raids from Rift at least often stayed together a while and did some stuff for a while. Here in the events people simply scatter into the four winds immediately after the event. Nothing lasting here is formed, plus the lack of quests, the entire world felt sorta insubstantial to me. Like a breeze of wind which comes and goes quickly. I can't describe this feeling better, alas.

I think it's partly that 80 levels is way too many in one go, unless you love the game.

The reason why it worked in WoW is that you had 1-60, 60-70, 70-80, 80-85, and 85-90. And by the time you had higher level caps, they drastically reduced the amount of experience it took to level through the old content. And only the dedicated really go from 1 to level cap at release of an expansion. It's still a long ways.

Don't get me wrong. Many people got to 80 very quickly. Some even have 4-5 characters at 80, but they really love the game. For everyone who simply likes Guild Wars 2, the levels mean very little. You get a skill point, which is funny because you get 3-5 skill points from skill challenges to get that level. You also get a trait point, but traits really get interesting every 5 levels.

I like Guild Wars 2, but, at the 50-60 mark, I was definitely thinking, "....20-30 more to go... Yay."

It would be more interesting if there were additional skills that you can learn, dependent on your weapon, with skill points or something. Although, I am positive that's a balancing nightmare. Maybe introduce PvE-only skills again, like in GW1? But I digress.

It's a long journey. That is a great thing for some and not so great for others.

Originally posted by aphydork

I think it's partly that 80 levels is way too many in one go, unless you love the game.

The reason why it worked in WoW is that you had 1-60, 60-70, 70-80, 80-85, and 85-90. And by the time you had higher level caps, they drastically reduced the amount of experience it took to level through the old content. And only the dedicated really go from 1 to level cap at release of an expansion. It's still a long ways.

Don't get me wrong. Many people got to 80 very quickly. Some even have 4-5 characters at 80, but they really love the game. For everyone who simply likes Guild Wars 2, the levels mean very little. You get a skill point, which is funny because you get 3-5 skill points from skill challenges to get that level. You also get a trait point, but traits really get interesting every 5 levels.

I like Guild Wars 2, but, at the 50-60 mark, I was definitely thinking, "....20-30 more to go... Yay."

It would be more interesting if there were additional skills that you can learn, dependent on your weapon, with skill points or something. Although, I am positive that's a balancing nightmare. Maybe introduce PvE-only skills again, like in GW1? But I digress.

It's a long journey. That is a great thing for some and not so great for others.

to me playing the same anything for long peroid of time gets boring.. which is why i generally dislike straight roles and especially heavy trinity based games.. for me i enjoy the flexability with the trait/weapon/utility system BUT still for me I'm leveling 3 characters at the same time.. when I feel slightly bored with one I go to the other for awhile then back again.. Has worked out very well so far. Also if I ever feel slightly bored in PVE i join up in WvW for a couple days or over to my sPVP character to break things up.. i could see if i only played once aspect of the game and one character I could get bored but luckily GW2 offers several options

I don't think my mind is capable of working that way.

Haha.

Originally posted by Elikal

Again, I miss sandbox elements, which could keep me going. And the events rotate WAAAY too fast. In the first 5-10 levels it doesn't matter, but later on, it simply is sad and takes out some lasting pride of accomplishment, when 3 minutes later the Fort which I defended gets attacked again or whatever. Again, only phasing could help here. Also auto-grouping like in RIFT would help, because the automatic groups/raids from Rift at least often stayed together a while and did some stuff for a while. Here in the events people simply scatter into the four winds immediately after the event. Nothing lasting here is formed, plus the lack of quests, the entire world felt sorta insubstantial to me. Like a breeze of wind which comes and goes quickly. I can't describe this feeling better, alas.

I agree with you man.  My level 80 Necromancer is even at like 98% world completion.  My level 60 or so Warrior I find way more fun, but I just can't even finish leveling him out.   I don't feel immersed in the world at all, I can just roam around WvW as my only option left but even it feels the same.   

And I still never got my Keg Brawl Master title haha.   /shake fist

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by nsignific
My sub games wait for me as well.

Only if you're willing to cough up more money. Something you don't have to do if you decide to take a break from GW2.

What if there's an expansion for GW2. Really, sub games are so rare now that instead of advertising for Anet that they're the saints of no sub, you should be talking about how the game costs $60 and has a cash shop. I actually miss sub games because we didn't have this cash shop crap back then and no buy to win. Well actually, to be honest I like that the F2P games are free and the good ones are good until they force you into buying crap.

Originally posted by Betakodo

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by nsignific
My sub games wait for me as well.

Only if you're willing to cough up more money. Something you don't have to do if you decide to take a break from GW2.

What if there's an expansion for GW2. Really, sub games are so rare now that instead of advertising for Anet that they're the saints of no sub, you should be talking about how the game costs $60 and has a cash shop. I actually miss sub games because we didn't have this cash shop crap back then and no buy to win. Well actually, to be honest I like that the F2P games are free and the good ones are good until they force you into buying crap.

is that so? can't think of any other AAA MMOs that were B2P at launch. A lot of F2P converts have horrible freemium models right now as well.  also what in GW2 CS is P2W? figured this was already beaten to death as obviously false by now. Not to mention you can easily get anything in the CS without spending a dime

Originally posted by Betakodo

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by nsignific
My sub games wait for me as well.

Only if you're willing to cough up more money. Something you don't have to do if you decide to take a break from GW2.

What if there's an expansion for GW2. Really, sub games are so rare now that instead of advertising for Anet that they're the saints of no sub, you should be talking about how the game costs $60 and has a cash shop. I actually miss sub games because we didn't have this cash shop crap back then and no buy to win. Well actually, to be honest I like that the F2P games are free and the good ones are good until they force you into buying crap.

LOL you were wrong in April ...wrong in May...wrong in June ... and still beating the dead horse at the end of October

Originally posted by jpnole
Well I have to admit the initial spell of GW2 was pretty strong. More so than any MMO I have ever played. Alas... I logged in today after not playing for a couple weeks. I admit to being lured away by Torchlight 2, Dishonored, Borderlands 2 and the recent Skyrim patch/DLC. Yes I know they are not mmos. Anyway so I logged in and it hit me like a ton of bricks. I am done. Not much else to say. Got a Necro up to level 45 with articifer up to 225 but I just don't have it in me to take it any further. With 16% world completion there is absolutely no way I will ever find the motivation to continue. I remember swearing off themeparks after SWTOR. Well I'm going to try and swear them off again. We'll see. Anyway, back to the trusty single player/coop PC games. 

Just curious OP.

Did you try any other class?  becuase Necro is prolly the most boring out of all of them.

That said,I did get bored to tears at about your level (42) with my main (Mesmer)..playing an Engineer has rekindled my interests a bit for now.

Originally posted by tank017

Originally posted by jpnole
Well I have to admit the initial spell of GW2 was pretty strong. More so than any MMO I have ever played. Alas... I logged in today after not playing for a couple weeks. I admit to being lured away by Torchlight 2, Dishonored, Borderlands 2 and the recent Skyrim patch/DLC. Yes I know they are not mmos. Anyway so I logged in and it hit me like a ton of bricks. I am done. Not much else to say. Got a Necro up to level 45 with articifer up to 225 but I just don't have it in me to take it any further. With 16% world completion there is absolutely no way I will ever find the motivation to continue. I remember swearing off themeparks after SWTOR. Well I'm going to try and swear them off again. We'll see. Anyway, back to the trusty single player/coop PC games. 

Just curious OP.

 

Did you try any other class?  becuase Necro is prolly the most boring out of all of them.

 

 

ha! very true.. i so bad wanted necro to be my main in beta but after trying every class to me necro is by far the least fun to play imho

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by tank017

Originally posted by jpnole
Well I have to admit the initial spell of GW2 was pretty strong. More so than any MMO I have ever played. Alas... I logged in today after not playing for a couple weeks. I admit to being lured away by Torchlight 2, Dishonored, Borderlands 2 and the recent Skyrim patch/DLC. Yes I know they are not mmos. Anyway so I logged in and it hit me like a ton of bricks. I am done. Not much else to say. Got a Necro up to level 45 with articifer up to 225 but I just don't have it in me to take it any further. With 16% world completion there is absolutely no way I will ever find the motivation to continue. I remember swearing off themeparks after SWTOR. Well I'm going to try and swear them off again. We'll see. Anyway, back to the trusty single player/coop PC games. 

Just curious OP.

 

Did you try any other class?  becuase Necro is prolly the most boring out of all of them.

 

 

ha! very true.. i so bad wanted necro to be my main in beta but after trying every class to me necro is by far the least fun to play imho

Same here

I had it set for my main as well,but just couldnt bring myself to keep going.

I will only login for halloween event and 1 time or so a week. Teh game is boring overall. The non-guild chat is dead 95% of the time except for the "LFG for dungeon" calls. 0 teamwork on regular maps needed, just run around single player game.

Game is good in that its free, so you can play it when you are bored of your main games.

I see 4-5 MMOs in the works that look much much more innovative and intersting. I will play War Z, DOTA 2, LOL and Raiderz along with my steam games and GW2 ony when events or when need a rest from main games I mentioned.

Not a bad game, but it failed to draw me in, boring story, and just a bland game.

Originally posted by Alber_gamer

With all due respect to all parts and opinions, the "you can always come back whenever you want since there is no sub" does not speak any good of the game. You can say the same of Tetris, Pacman or Pong. Quoting someone else from another forum:

 

 

Person 1: I got bored of Pong online. Man it gets old fast and has no endgame. If not because it has a chatbox I wouldn't even know that it's a mmo.

Person 2: Well good luck, and remember that you can always try at again in future, since the game has no sub.

 

 

What matters to people is if the game is fun for them. If it isn't, they don't care whether they'll have to pay sub or not, because they didn't like it. Chances are that the next time they'll bother to try the game they will have to pay for it, because it'll be when next expansion is released. Because GW2 will get more cash from you when they release expansions.

 

Do not use the "you don't have to pay for it if you want to return in future" as if it was any incredibly possitive feature of the game. The fact that people announce that they're quitting the game even though they already paid for the box and it has no sub is bad enough. It's like going to the restaurant, paying for the meal and midway through eating it you stand up and leave because it was a bad meal.

 

When you stop playing a game with a post like the OP means he's not having fun and he won't be playing it because it wasn't good enough for him, and whether is free to try it again or not at that point is rather irrelevant. 

It's a role playing game that will keep putting out content.  That's not Tetris.

Originally posted by jpnole
Well I have to admit the initial spell of GW2 was pretty strong. More so than any MMO I have ever played. Alas... I logged in today after not playing for a couple weeks. I admit to being lured away by Torchlight 2, Dishonored, Borderlands 2 and the recent Skyrim patch/DLC. Yes I know they are not mmos. Anyway so I logged in and it hit me like a ton of bricks. I am done. Not much else to say. Got a Necro up to level 45 with articifer up to 225 but I just don't have it in me to take it any further. With 16% world completion there is absolutely no way I will ever find the motivation to continue. I remember swearing off themeparks after SWTOR. Well I'm going to try and swear them off again. We'll see. Anyway, back to the trusty single player/coop PC games. 

Hell, I thought you'd never leave SWTOR after posts likes this.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/4641090#4641090

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/4641221#4641221

Guess it's on to the next big thing then?

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/4641309#4641309

Originally posted by jpnole
Well I have to admit the initial spell of GW2 was pretty strong. More so than any MMO I have ever played. Alas... I logged in today after not playing for a couple weeks. I admit to being lured away by Torchlight 2, Dishonored, Borderlands 2 and the recent Skyrim patch/DLC. Yes I know they are not mmos. Anyway so I logged in and it hit me like a ton of bricks. I am done. Not much else to say. Got a Necro up to level 45 with articifer up to 225 but I just don't have it in me to take it any further. With 16% world completion there is absolutely no way I will ever find the motivation to continue. I remember swearing off themeparks after SWTOR. Well I'm going to try and swear them off again. We'll see. Anyway, back to the trusty single player/coop PC games. 

Sounds liek you dont like nor have the attention span to enjoy MMO's any more, suffice it to say I doubt you'd be interested in a sandbox MMO either.  As you need much more patience in them then with themeparks.  Nothing bad about this as some people just get burnt out from MMO fatigue.

I on the otherhand am the exact opposite, I picked up TL2 and a friend gifted me BL2 on steam as a ways to pay back me buying his GW2 game and I completely gave up on both of them within a week.  I just cant even bother to play a single player game as I am always wondering how they would work withi nan MMO setting.

MMO's 4 LYFE!

Originally posted by Alber_gamer

With all due respect to all parts and opinions, the "you can always come back whenever you want since there is no sub" does not speak any good of the game. You can say the same of Tetris, Pacman or Pong. Quoting someone else from another forum:

 

 snip

 

 

What matters to people is if the game is fun for them. If it isn't, they don't care whether they'll have to pay sub or not, because they didn't like it. Chances are that the next time they'll bother to try the game they will have to pay for it, because it'll be when next expansion is released. Because GW2 will get more cash from you when they release expansions.

 

Do not use the "you don't have to pay for it if you want to return in future" as if it was any incredibly possitive feature of the game. snip

Unfortunately you are wrong on this point. What pushes you farther into the negative is when you underlined "will" as if it were fact. Thing that you're missing is they don't have to pay anything to come back. Even if they come back on the cusp of a new expansion or sizeable content update they still don't have to pay a dime.

Guild Wars 2's launcher isn't going to deny them entry to the game because they haven't shelled out 15 bucks to reactivate their account. On the same not they don't have to buy the expansion to get back in either. Most people who come back to a game for an expansion do it one of 2 ways(and several other less popular ways): Either a few weeks to a month before its release to get back into the groove of the game, see the changes made while they were gone, and get geared up(not in GW2's case) and earn some money for the new ex-pack. The other way is on the day it releases in which case they probably would pay for the expansion.

The major overhead here is that the expansion doesn't have to be purchased to come back. You don't have to purchase any gems, or have logged in within the last 6 months, or any other silly account gimmicks. You can simply come and go as you please. Whether or not you buy that expansion is totally up to you. No one is holding the MMO Market gun to your head and saying "If you wanna play me you better buy my expansion, fool!"

The second point you're wrong on is that arenanet get's more money from an expansion. Honestly even without pulling numbers you can look at both the Gems shop and GW1's ingame shop do some calculations and see how the sales of digital ingame merchandise over the course of a development cycle [for an expansion] outweigh the earnings from box sales of an expansion. You may disagree because perhaps you personally don't buy from cash shops(I don't know you well enough  to say one way or the other), but you cannot deny that the shop is used frequently and that it's visitors generally purchase quite a bit over time. From my experience most people who use cash shops tend to keep using them even if it hurts them.