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  Vesavius

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Players come for the game, but they stay for the people- Most Devs have forgotten this.

10/21/12 4:02:48 PM#21
Originally posted by erictlewis
One look at the UI and I just about wanted to puke.  No thanks I will pass.

 

...and THIS is why I would never want to make an MMORPG.

The project is so early in it's development life, and yet people still give knee jerk intolerant statements like this.

 

  Darhamm

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Joined: 11/10/09
Posts: 64

10/21/12 4:19:21 PM#22
So very supported. I'd love to play this and see it released, polished and expanded, hopefully with pvp down the road :-)
  Rednecksith

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Bite my fiery metal ass!

10/21/12 4:25:34 PM#23

Looks interesting, but not enough so for me to donate some of my (sadly limited) funds. I will say this though: Unlike the kickstarters for Citadel of Sorcery and Pathfinder, they're at least showing folks that they've got something, and not just describing all the 'amazing features' the game will have. Gives them a lot of credibility in my book, and I'll definitely be keeping an eye on the project.

Oh, and I'm 99.9999999% sure the UI shown is a placeholder. At least I really, really, really hope so.

  Vannor

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10/21/12 6:54:29 PM#24
Originally posted by Vesavius
Originally posted by erictlewis
One look at the UI and I just about wanted to puke.  No thanks I will pass.

 

...and THIS is why I would never want to make an MMORPG.

The project is so early in it's development life, and yet people still give knee jerk intolerant statements like this.

They shouldn't have released game footage if they didn't want people to judge it. Simple as that.

  Myrdynn

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Joined: 3/25/07
Posts: 1425

10/21/12 7:11:20 PM#25

if its more AC1 then AC2, and more AC1 then more EQ, I hope this goes well.  Would be great to have a new Darktide

 

  erictlewis

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Joined: 11/08/08
Posts: 3058

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results.

10/21/12 7:22:03 PM#26
Originally posted by Vannor
Originally posted by Vesavius
Originally posted by erictlewis
One look at the UI and I just about wanted to puke.  No thanks I will pass.

 

...and THIS is why I would never want to make an MMORPG.

The project is so early in it's development life, and yet people still give knee jerk intolerant statements like this.

They shouldn't have released game footage if they didn't want people to judge it. Simple as that.

With so many other games in existance you need to put your best stuff out there, if you don't there are plenty of other games out there for folks to look at. I looked at it and said yes no thanks we don't need any more ui that look like that. Sorry just a cut and paste and not even a good one.

 

  Darkcrystal

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Joined: 5/06/10
Posts: 779

10/21/12 7:58:27 PM#27
Originally posted by Vesavius
Originally posted by erictlewis
One look at the UI and I just about wanted to puke.  No thanks I will pass.

 

...and THIS is why I would never want to make an MMORPG.

The project is so early in it's development life, and yet people still give knee jerk intolerant statements like this.

 

Same here being a Dev myself, I wanted to make an MMO as an Indie, but I rather keep working for Big companys so I can keep watching gamers cry about what is made...

 

Maybe if gamers would give devs more respect people would make indies MMO's but nope I won't either I rather make facebook, IOS games I get more respect and more work done, more money in the end..

 

I love to make an MMo, but the last 5 years I would nto assembly a team and kill our selfs just to be talked to and trolled in the way they do, and make no money for a bunch of idiots.

 

No thanks, I hope you trolls enjoy the games you see and will continue to because no good dev in there right mind will make you people games and starve themselfs for years and kill themselfs just to have people make stupid comments.

 

Most gamers have no idea what it takes and they are so fast to judge a game based on the first look which is BS..  They have no common sense, I can tell that UI is placeholders, yes there team right now is mostoy programmers, I can tell most of it looks flat, but asheron call was my favorite game and with some old team members doing this and with something new I already sent them 500 bucks, even though I needed for my own games, I still support any indie, because with out indies you people will continue to see trash.

 

investors will NOT give you any money unless you made a few games and your name should be Bioware, Sony, Blizzard, Funcom, if not good luck getting any money, also if the game is outg of the box at all, good luck, why do you think SWTOR was a clone of WOW,. because if they thought of anything else no one would of funded that amount period, and those are facts , Investors know these games make money, stuff out of the box people are afraid to ......

 

Its gonna take an indie for us to see a new game and for an investor to open there eyes... period.

 

 

  Hydros13

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Joined: 7/08/12
Posts: 30

10/21/12 8:35:49 PM#28
I backed the project, and hope they do reach the goal.
  Drigus

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Joined: 7/11/12
Posts: 52

10/21/12 10:02:33 PM#29
It seems as if they're only using their "name" to sell the game, rather than the game itself. It just doesn't look good. It looks old and outdated, with the gameplay looking extremely dull. I know it's not finished, but they should of taken some more time before releasing a video for it. 
  bcbully

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Joined: 3/03/12
Posts: 7312

10/21/12 10:10:43 PM#30
long way to go on this one ;) Hope you guys get there. 

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  Tamanous

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Posts: 1788

10/21/12 10:17:00 PM#31
Originally posted by Drigus
It seems as if they're only using their "name" to sell the game, rather than the game itself. It just doesn't look good. It looks old and outdated, with the gameplay looking extremely dull. I know it's not finished, but they should of taken some more time before releasing a video for it. 

Ya just like the other kickstarter mmo projects lately: Demand tons of money without barely even a screenshot even within numerious developer interviews. 

 

Project Gorgon is making a huge risk. They went full disclosure early in the project and likely aren't promissing anything near AAA quality graphics anyway. I give them guts for that at least.

You stay sassy!

  User Deleted
10/21/12 10:33:35 PM#32
I'm cautiously optimistic for this game, the graphics are pretty bad but with Srand at the helm, the former Asherons Call lead, it could turn into something old school and fun. 
  Vesavius

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Joined: 3/08/04
Posts: 7356

Players come for the game, but they stay for the people- Most Devs have forgotten this.

10/22/12 4:56:42 AM#33
Originally posted by Vannor
Originally posted by Vesavius
Originally posted by erictlewis
One look at the UI and I just about wanted to puke.  No thanks I will pass.

 

...and THIS is why I would never want to make an MMORPG.

The project is so early in it's development life, and yet people still give knee jerk intolerant statements like this.

They shouldn't have released game footage if they didn't want people to judge it. Simple as that.

 

Maybe they thought people would be aware and mature enough to get that what they are seeing is in no way the final product.

Again, your reply really only reinforces why I would never make an MMORPG for the modern player.

  Dakirn

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Posts: 370

10/22/12 1:10:15 PM#34

I like the potential.  They sum up the game pretty well: "quirky."  The game is definately quirky.

 

Quirky is kind of nice after the junk that's come out lately.  I'm always hoping for more distinct indie games like this.

 

To the trolls: Not every game has to be a massive success to be a good game.

  Dakirn

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Posts: 370

10/22/12 1:15:12 PM#35
Originally posted by Vannor

[mod edit]

 

You know that not every indie company has tons of money otherwise they wouldn't be using Kickstarter right?  I find it laughable that people expect small companies to have access to the money they expect them to.

 

Money doesn't make a great game, just look at SWTOR.  You could have made 10+ MMOs for the cost of that one and much better quality.

 

By your logic everything on Kickstarter could be a money grab.

 

The two people working on the game have worked on games before.  They aren't asking for hundreds of thousands of dollars.  It's 55k, and after the 20% Kickstarter takes and taxes it doesn't quite turn into a "money grab."

  Dakirn

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10/22/12 3:23:39 PM#36
Originally posted by Rednecksith

Looks interesting, but not enough so for me to donate some of my (sadly limited) funds. I will say this though: Unlike the kickstarters for Citadel of Sorcery and Pathfinder, they're at least showing folks that they've got something, and not just describing all the 'amazing features' the game will have. Gives them a lot of credibility in my book, and I'll definitely be keeping an eye on the project.

Oh, and I'm 99.9999999% sure the UI shown is a placeholder. At least I really, really, really hope so.

While I agree that it looks like an interesting game, I don't agree with your representation of CoS.  Pathfinder, yes, CoS, no.

 

The difference is that Gorgon licensed an existing engine.  It's easy to take time to throw content into an engine that already exists.  CoS built their own engine from scratch.

 

i'm not saying that they shouldn't show more (they said they showed what they can but the technology is what mostly exists and showing that is proprietary and let others see "how" they do what they say they're doing) but match the two games together isn't an accurate comparison.

 

As far as CoS, they probably won't make their Kickstarter but I'll still be following them since they plan to finish it even if it takes longer.  Until I see proof that they're shutting down or it doesn't work I still have faith in them.

 

But I totally understand how jaded gamers are now after all the false promises.  I am giving them a chance and those who aren't.. well we can all agree to disagree and see what happens.  No need to be rude to each other or call companies money grabs.. we're all the same community and none of us really want the same junk over and over.

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