Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

Who would have ever thought SOE ( "Noone wants to be Uncle Owen!" ) would be the ones to throw EQ into the sandbox fire?

Could be interesting.

SoE was easily the most likely MMO developer by far to make a sandbox, and really this announcement isnt a surprise at all IMO,  but its nice to hear still.

The uncle owen comment was by Lucas Arts, certainly not SoE.  I dont think SoE wanted to dump the sand out of the box at all, and even NGE still had a large amount of sandbox gameplay left in it.

LOL EQ.

EQ gave rise to themepark games, I'll believe it when I see it.

Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

Who would have ever thought SOE ( "Noone wants to be Uncle Owen!" ) would be the ones to throw EQ into the sandbox fire?

Could be interesting.

I know, right! Apparently "research" has shown thereare more uncle owens out there than they previously thought.

Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

Who would have ever thought SOE ( "Noone wants to be Uncle Owen!" ) would be the ones to throw EQ into the sandbox fire?

Could be interesting.

7 years worth of constant criticism from ex-customers about the fact that you made a mistake tends to get people's attention.

I'd say its more like 7 years of mediocre success in the MMO market has had more to do with it.

But either way lets hope they put forth 100% effort into makeing it great, instead of half-assing it.

Originally posted by Zylaxx

LOL EQ.

 

EQ gave rise to themepark games, I'll believe it when I see it.

The company did EQ.  after that it did:

a console MMO (EQOA)

an MMOFPS (PS)

a themepark (EQ2)

a sandbox (SWG)

a kid oriented MMO (FreeRealms)

an action oriented cross platform super hero MMO (DCUO)

The only pure themepark SoE ever did was EQ2.  EQ and EQOA were pre-themepark games.  Level based, but not quest hub based at all and MUCH more open ended in nature.

Most diverse developer out there

Originally posted by Nadia

Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

Who would have ever thought SOE ( "Noone wants to be Uncle Owen!" ) would be the ones to throw EQ into the sandbox fire?

Could be interesting.

that quote was from LucasArts - not SOE

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/10/arts/10star.html?_r=0

"We really just needed to make the game a lot more accessible to a much broader player base," said Nancy MacIntyre, the game's senior director at LucasArts. "There was lots of reading, much too much, in the game. There was a lot of wandering around learning about different abilities. We really needed to give people the experience of being Han Solo or Luke Skywalker rather than being Uncle Owen, the moisture farmer. We wanted more instant gratification: kill, get treasure, repeat. We needed to give people more of an opportunity to be a part of what they have seen in the movies rather than something they had created themselves."

 

Originally posted by strangiato2112

Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

Who would have ever thought SOE ( "Noone wants to be Uncle Owen!" ) would be the ones to throw EQ into the sandbox fire?

Could be interesting.

SoE was easily the most likely MMO developer by far to make a sandbox, and really this announcement isnt a surprise at all IMO,  but its nice to hear still.

 

The uncle owen comment was by Lucas Arts, certainly not SoE.  I dont think SoE wanted to dump the sand out of the box at all, and even NGE still had a large amount of sandbox gameplay left in it.

Yeah guys, I know it was Nancy "Oh look, I make Leapfrogs now!" Mcintyre.

But up until very recently, that outlook has been supported by SOE in everything they've done.

Originally posted by Zylaxx

LOL EQ.

 

EQ gave rise to themepark games, I'll believe it when I see it.

Maybe we are coming full circle...or something. Even though Meridian59 and UO were first, EQ was the mmo that put the genre on the map, and held the largest population in the west until WoW. It would be interesting if it was SoE that brought the genre in a completely new direction.

Proof will be in the pudding though, so it's a completely wait and see situation.

Originally posted by Nadia

Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

Who would have ever thought SOE ( "Noone wants to be Uncle Owen!" ) would be the ones to throw EQ into the sandbox fire?

Could be interesting.

that quote was from LucasArts - not SOE

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/10/arts/10star.html?_r=0

"We really just needed to make the game a lot more accessible to a much broader player base," said Nancy MacIntyre, the game's senior director at LucasArts. "There was lots of reading, much too much, in the game. There was a lot of wandering around learning about different abilities. We really needed to give people the experience of being Han Solo or Luke Skywalker rather than being Uncle Owen, the moisture farmer. We wanted more instant gratification: kill, get treasure, repeat. We needed to give people more of an opportunity to be a part of what they have seen in the movies rather than something they had created themselves."

 

Reading, learning, creating something yourself... 

Well, I'm glad they got it right with SWTOR at least, none of that needless junk in there!

BOOM!   Headshot.

I have enjoyed the EQ franchises but I admit i dont trust Smed

look forward to playing it regardless

Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

 

Yeah guys, I know it was Nancy "Oh look, I make Leapfrogs now!" Mcintyre.

But up until very recently, that outlook has been supported by SOE in everything they've done.

 

They have made ONE pure themepark.  ONE.  And that theme park was made when they already had the #1 sandbox on the market.  The only big budget game theyve done since EQ2 was DCUO, which is a ps3 game at heart.

How many eggs do we place in Smed's Basket?

I get a funny feeling SOE had a master plan ever since they went into that NGE phase.....

SOE overtaking blizzard?..... could happen.... 

Originally posted by FrodoFragins
Starting over from scratch doesn't bode well.  This game had better be 5 years away from fruition.

 oh i wouldnt say that. A great portion of developer time is spent creating art assets and content, and of course the forgelight engine is already complete or you couldnt be in the planetside beta, and they have almost 2 years since they changed modes. Not to mention you have no idea what art assets they might of lifted from their other games and reskinned them, and features like soe emote  and entire systems from swg might be useful in creating the game.

Originally posted by Khalathwyr

Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

Who would have ever thought SOE ( "Noone wants to be Uncle Owen!" ) would be the ones to throw EQ into the sandbox fire?

Could be interesting.

I know, right! Apparently "research" has shown thereare more uncle owens out there than they previously thought.

people want to do more than kill x rinse and repeat? whoa Lucasrts must have learned something

And none believed me when I made a thread of EQ next tackling sandbox & possibly PvP to the Rumor room.

In your face, doubters.

And I ain't getting on the wagon, I'll be riding with the vanguard on a... Horse?

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/367601

Please do not create duplicate threads of already open discussions.

Thanks

Love Kenze

Originally posted by Sacfed
Smedley just said it! What do you think?

I think smedley has been known to give out information that turned out to not be true about games that I have seen much more from than this one so I'm going to have to reserve my own personal judgement for quite a while longer.