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  TyrianPrime

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OP  10/21/12 5:48:41 PM#1

Finally a game where we can socialize, and play with our friends, follow our career like a single player, kick each other's butt on private servers, and plainly do what other MMOs have failed, have a fun time online with friends....while gaming...in a persistent space where we can roam like privateers and freelancers, what some other space games/behemoths should have been and are not sadly, but finally we have hope on the horizon, that's why it is the MMO we have been waiting for, at least for the lovers of the Space Operas, the romantic pilots of an era, that you played a game, and you had on your screen, legends like Hamill, McDowell, Ownen guide your quest, in the dark space and beyond...that was gaming at it's elite state...Well not the same for Star Citizen but since it will be  like a Wing Commander+Privateer+ Freelancer, then when do we leave? As Blair said to Maniac once!

Yes, "gaming"! It has been a distorted notion a decade now. Similar to grinding for rocks, jumping up and down, saying lol online, chopping a horendous graphic digital pixel with a bar on it's head and a number above yours, and waiting for the % number to fall...oh, and the oug i got epics mentality...well this has been gaming this decade more or less for the masses.

Did it have to be 2 years long to wait for?

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  RefMinor

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10/21/12 6:46:08 PM#2
Didn't the developer say it wasn't an MMO?
  TyrianPrime

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OP  10/22/12 2:15:01 AM#3

The MMO we have been waiting for, obviously not the MMO we have been feeding upon the last decade.

The context of the answer, did not rule out the whole label, but aspects of it. There are different views, and while some support the former, some support another.

SC is another kind of MMO, one that caters closer to Space Gamers, but an MMO in the broader sense, of being online and playing the same game. either in the same instance/server or flying through a persistent universe space. 

Didn't the developer explain that as well? Or do we just read the titles only and the first sentence?

" Star Citizen will take the best of all possible worlds, ranging from a permanent, persistent world similar to those found in MMOs to an offline, single player campaign like those found in the Wing Commander series. The game will include the option for private servers, like Freelancer, and will offer plenty of opportunities for players who are interested in modding the content. Unlike many games, none of these aspects is an afterthought: they all combine to form the core of the Star Citizen experience."

Some prefer to focus on the "NO", i prefer to focus on the explanation.

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  GolbezTheLion

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10/22/12 2:17:32 AM#4
Originally posted by RefMinor
Didn't the developer say it wasn't an MMO?

Correct, with multiplayer similar to Freelancer.

  Brenelael

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10/22/12 6:52:06 AM#5
Originally posted by Averof

The MMO we have been waiting for, obviously not the MMO we have been feeding upon the last decade.

The context of the answer, did not rule out the whole label, but aspects of it. There are different views, and while some support the former, some support another.

SC is another kind of MMO, one that caters closer to Space Gamers, but an MMO in the broader sense, of being online and playing the same game. either in the same instance/server or flying through a persistent universe space. 

Didn't the developer explain that as well? Or do we just read the titles only and the first sentence?

" Star Citizen will take the best of all possible worlds, ranging from a permanent, persistent world similar to those found in MMOs to an offline, single player campaign like those found in the Wing Commander series. The game will include the option for private servers, like Freelancer, and will offer plenty of opportunities for players who are interested in modding the content. Unlike many games, none of these aspects is an afterthought: they all combine to form the core of the Star Citizen experience."

Some prefer to focus on the "NO", i prefer to focus on the explanation.

Well it's not just focusing on the no as the explaination itself does not support it being a MMO. If we take only having a multiplayer persistent world as the only qualification a game needs to be a MMO than DayZ, Neverwinter Nights, Freelancer, Mount and Blade and dozens of other games that have multiplayer persistent world servers are also MMOs by this definition. The reason why people like myself are very sceptical of this being an actual MMO is that there are some very crucial features that define the genre that simply will not be in Star Citizen and Chris Roberts knows this. This is why the first thing after "Will Star Citizen be a MMO?" is a very emphatical "No!" in the game's official FAQ.

 

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  TyrianPrime

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OP  10/22/12 7:49:26 AM#6

A positive thinker is no less  or more optimistic than a negative thinker.

You also have pledged, as you said, so have i, and frankly i am very much interested, that SC, becomes not the MMO style we have so been used to in the last decade but something more evolved and more attractive.

In that sense the "NO" applies in my view. I wish that like Blizzard, Chris will consume every best asset of current online games, and tailor it to his liking, which in turn, tailors to us that played fondly of his games everytime.

Labeling everything has deprived the ability to look into what is exactly inside the package...

And the meaning of this thread, is that it is a senseless debate....what is and what isn't MMO, whether it was replied NO, and if it has elements of an MMO, or if it is an MMO...

...what really is the juice overall, is the game itself, and not it's label/tag/moto/advertisement/suits/ and skirts around it:)

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  Xondar123

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10/22/12 8:56:20 AM#7
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by RefMinor
Didn't the developer say it wasn't an MMO?

Correct, with multiplayer similar to Freelancer.

It will have a persistent game world as well as let you run your own shard with friends or play offline single player.

So no, nothing like Freelancer really.

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  Loktofeit

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10/22/12 9:00:29 AM#8

So the MMO everyone here has been waiting for is a small group, deal with no one but your friends, minorly multiplayer experience? Don't get me wrong, I'm looking forward to the game, but on a forum full of people regularly posting suggestions of contrived grouping mechanics and "Where's the community?" threads, it's odd to see this lauded as 'the MMO we have been waiting for" here.

 

 

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  Kyleran

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10/22/12 9:03:57 AM#9
Originally posted by Xondar123
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by RefMinor
Didn't the developer say it wasn't an MMO?

Correct, with multiplayer similar to Freelancer.

It will have a persistent game world as well as let you run your own shard with friends or play offline single player.

So no, nothing like Freelancer really.

But nothing really very similar to a MMORPG either...sort of a pseudo version of one.

 

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  TyrianPrime

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OP  10/22/12 11:00:51 AM#10

SC is the MMOSPLAN...MMO+Single Player+LAN, more than we wanted, the MMO we have been waiting for. 3 in 1. 

A new category of it's own...it will leave the industry another benchmark to try to reach afterwards.

MMO with a persistent world on public servers!

Single player campaign!

LAN ability on private servers!

Cheers!

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  Brenelael

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10/22/12 4:53:01 PM#11
Originally posted by Averof

A positive thinker is no less  or more optimistic than a negative thinker.

You also have pledged, as you said, so have i, and frankly i am very much interested, that SC, becomes not the MMO style we have so been used to in the last decade but something more evolved and more attractive.

In that sense the "NO" applies in my view. I wish that like Blizzard, Chris will consume every best asset of current online games, and tailor it to his liking, which in turn, tailors to us that played fondly of his games everytime.

Labeling everything has deprived the ability to look into what is exactly inside the package...

And the meaning of this thread, is that it is a senseless debate....what is and what isn't MMO, whether it was replied NO, and if it has elements of an MMO, or if it is an MMO...

...what really is the juice overall, is the game itself, and not it's label/tag/moto/advertisement/suits/ and skirts around it:)

Don't get me wrong as I'm not in any way negative about this game. One thing that you and I can agree on is if this game turns out like Chris Roberts has described it will be truly amazing. I'm not disappointed about it not being a MMO because judging from everything Mr. Roberts has done in the past MMOs aren't really his style anyways so I never expected it to be a MMO. It will be one hell of a game anyways.

 

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  jdlamson75

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10/22/12 9:43:36 PM#12
Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by Xondar123
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by RefMinor
Didn't the developer say it wasn't an MMO?

Correct, with multiplayer similar to Freelancer.

It will have a persistent game world as well as let you run your own shard with friends or play offline single player.

So no, nothing like Freelancer really.

But nothing really very similar to a MMORPG either...sort of a pseudo version of one.

 

So, you mean like all the other games that have come out in the recent past?  

 

  zimboy69

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10/23/12 6:40:59 AM#13

i am really looking forward to this

 

im just looking  for   elite   with multiplayer if they give us  that  it will do me

  Yakamomoto

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10/23/12 6:46:10 AM#14

This.. is officially #1 on my anticipation list.

Privateer Online.. Wing Commander Online.. all in one package. This is like Christmas :D

  Yakamomoto

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10/23/12 6:48:32 AM#15
Originally posted by RefMinor
Didn't the developer say it wasn't an MMO?

OMG didn´t you read past that sentence??? It´s much more than an MMO, persistent world, single player campaing plus optional private servers. This will be better than sliced bread and a wet dream come true for every Wing Commander/X-Wing/Freelancer/Privateer fan

  Thane

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10/23/12 6:57:40 AM#16
Originally posted by Yakamomoto
Originally posted by RefMinor
Didn't the developer say it wasn't an MMO?

OMG didn´t you read past that sentence??? It´s much more than an MMO, persistent world, single player campaing plus optional private servers. This will be better than sliced bread and a wet dream come true for every Wing Commander/X-Wing/Freelancer/Privateer fan

optional private server?

and you guys think people wont cheat? :)

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  Yakamomoto

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10/23/12 7:38:46 AM#17
Originally posted by Thane
Originally posted by Yakamomoto
Originally posted by RefMinor
Didn't the developer say it wasn't an MMO?

OMG didn´t you read past that sentence??? It´s much more than an MMO, persistent world, single player campaing plus optional private servers. This will be better than sliced bread and a wet dream come true for every Wing Commander/X-Wing/Freelancer/Privateer fan

optional private server?

and you guys think people wont cheat? :)

they can cheat as long as they want on private servers, I plan to play in the persistent "official" universe

  Kyleran

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10/23/12 9:57:25 AM#18
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Averof

SC is the MMOSPLAN...MMO+Single Player+LAN, more than we wanted, the MMO we have been waiting for. 3 in 1. 

A new category of it's own...it will leave the industry another benchmark to try to reach afterwards.

MMO with a persistent world on public servers!

Single player campaign!

LAN ability on private servers!

Cheers!

I can't tell if this thread is simply a horrible attempt at selling people on the game or .... the T word.

Not a troll, he seems to seriously think this is going to happen and be the best thing ever.... happens with every new release..... he'll learn.

 

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  TyrianPrime

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OP  10/23/12 3:23:45 PM#19
Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Averof

SC is the MMOSPLAN...MMO+Single Player+LAN, more than we wanted, the MMO we have been waiting for. 3 in 1. 

A new category of it's own...it will leave the industry another benchmark to try to reach afterwards.

MMO with a persistent world on public servers!

Single player campaign!

LAN ability on private servers!

Cheers!

I can't tell if this thread is simply a horrible attempt at selling people on the game or .... the T word.

Not a troll, he seems to seriously think this is going to happen and be the best thing ever.... happens with every new release..... he'll learn.

 

Thank you Kyleran, at least you were spot on...i do seem to think it's going to happen...i always thought i knew, everytime most games delivered false promises...i did bite with AoC, i also bite the dust with Swtor...amongst dissapointment, i saw this as a glimpse of hope...

Bottomline...if this too fails..i'll learn too.

Congratulations on your educated remark...as for two other remarks that were insulting and flaming from two other users, i leave them to MMORPG staff to deal with.

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  TyrianPrime

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OP  4/23/13 5:48:13 AM#20

Had to watch for myself as well, where this project is going, and as it seems, it has all the thrust on it's engine to be the MMO kind we have been waitng for, finally a different MMO, with everything that pleases a Space Adventurer like all those that loved Wing Commander and Privateer.

Nevertheless, besides the pledge, no more praise or support if the promised space odyssey is not delivered...:)

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