Originally posted by Loke666

And they look just the same, right.  The problem is that MMO devs instead gave us this:

Lol, brilliant - this is so true.

Originally posted by nsignific

I'm amazed how these people continue to do the same thing year after year. Don't they know that if something's old, it's automatically bad? Only the most hardcore fanboys could stick with something for that long and I find that sad.

I know that you're basically pot-stirring here...

But haven't you ever met one of us old fogies who just looooves one or the other first-gen mmo, pines for it, complains about how no one will ever do it that well, ever again..

And why you ask him why he doesn't still play it, the best game evar, why did you quit...and you get some answer like "dated graphics"?

People actually do, at times, leave old games for some fairly trivial reasons.

But then again, after you've visited the same hobby, night after night, for years; how long can you be expected to hold off ennui?  A little thing, after six, eight, ten years is more than enough.

Need a more serious reason, a multi-page anticorporate manifesto?  Just drop in at your local message boards, someone will be happy to supply one.

http://www.dublinbikes.ie/

This was introduced in Dublin, Ireland a couple of years ago, there are small bike stations all over the city for members of the scheme to use, and a very high number of people use them now, in the mornings in the city centre it looks like china did before they switched from bikes to cars :)

Originally posted by nsignific

Originally posted by Pilnkplonk

Your analogy is flawed. While the basic design of the bicyle can be seen as perfected since half a century ago, the same cannot be said for mmorpgs. If you want to use a bicycle analogy you should compare WoW (and other modern mmos) to the bicycles made in the first 20 years of inventing the bicycle concept. IE:

Saying that WoW, which was made less than 10 years from the creation of the genre, somehow represents the ultimate possible perfection of it is simply ridiculous.

You assume too much about bicycles, that's mistake #1.

The other, you seem to be forgetting WoW isn't the same as it was 8 years ago. The underlying mechanics of it are - it didn't blast off on a tangent towards something else, but it has evolved (same as the bicycle).

You all seem to have undestood the analogy, but chose to nitpick for some reason (which is fine, that's the beauty and part of the purpose of forums).

The OP should have seen that coming.. The forums are always a constant "battle of the minds" as we all try to prove how intelligent we are while proving your inferiority... Anywho.

The analogy was decent.. you could use so many things in place of that..

Take nascar for example.. Those guys go round and round a track (circle, sometimes more oval or rectangular but still overly rounded) for 300 sometimes 500 times a race.. Fans can go to those races and sit and watch it happen over and over and not complain.. Even when a minor shift happens in order, say like a car makes a move to over take another (which isn't that much important until the final laps because of pits, cautions, restarts, wrecks etc), they remain seated and watching..

To mmo's, we know what to expect with the quests, mob killing etc.. And we do it, over and over and over again.. Yet we get soo bored of it.. A minor shift or change comes through and many times we head for the hills on to the next "race"..

I know, not a perfect analogy, but to be blunt why is repetition acceptable in everything else in life but soo frowned upon in MMO land? Even in other genre's, FPS games for instance still have me shooting things in the face with shotguns, smg's and rifles.. The "Modern Warfare" theme has been played out excessively yet those FPS fans still love their genre (they prove it everytime a new Modern Combat game comes out)...