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General Discussion  » So will DF:UW be a real deal Sandbox this time around, or a open endgame themepark like the first game?

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  Hotjazz

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10/21/12 1:08:51 PM#121
Originally posted by nate1980
Originally posted by Kyleran
I'm not sure what the definition of a real deal sandbox would be.

I think the best way is to use past sandbox MMORPG's as an example.

I agree.

Can anyone give an example of an earlier true sandbox mmo, and use said mmo to explain why darkfall is not a sandbox?

 

UO was a sandbox and Darkfall is not because you can`t decorate your house with junk.

UO was a sandbox and Darkfall is not because you can`t drop stuff on the ground.

Etc.

 

  Zinzan

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10/21/12 1:10:41 PM#122
Originally posted by Gdemami

 


Originally posted by Hancakes

Funny how those clamoring about "real sandbox" are the ones asking for game mechanics to protect them. 

 

That is what makes it a sandbox. There is no freedom without effective a law system.

I disagree, in a true sandbox the players should police the world, not NPC's making "safe" zones.

A sandbox should be just that, your given a world to explorre, the tools to explore with and the rest is up to you.

This is why games like Minecraft can be considered sandbox games and why almost all of so-called "sandbox" mmorpg's are not.

Most "sandbox" mmo's are pseudo-sandbox games, the developers don't trust the players to regulate the game so they intervene through design and physical restrictions beyond the natural physics of the game world and their inherant limitations(gravity for example) and the second this happens, it ceases to be a sandbox game.

Games like SWG and EvE were/are brilliant games, but not true sandbox games, close approximations, but still with restrictions placed on the playerbase outside of the natural physical laws of the game. DF was not a sandbox either and DF:UW won't be.

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  Flute

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10/21/12 1:13:39 PM#123
It won't be a true sandbox, sorry.
  Gdemami

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10/21/12 1:20:37 PM#124


Originally posted by Zinzan

I disagree, in a true sandbox the players should police the world, not NPC's making "safe" zones.

You can disagree but that won't make you right tho... My point still stands.


Originally posted by Zorgo

So your theory is that a 'real' sandbox designer ignores the negative aspects of a Sandbox mmo.......because that would make him a themepark designer....

See..?

  Wizardry

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10/21/12 1:27:59 PM#125

NO game will ever be a total sandbox,you always need some themes/game world to function.Personally i feel a Sandbox is not very good at all,because we can go grab a free UDK [best game engine out there] and make our own personal game if we want to.

Themeparkls like so many like to call them,are the way to go.We are suppose to be paying to play seomone's vision for a game world,from it's terrain to it's creatures to all of it's assests.

Sandbox games are like tossing down some LEGOS and say here build your world.However they are not very good at doing that so they are not FUN.Simple reason is Legos are not very diverse,there is only so much you can do with them.

What we need to have is a Themepark but instead of handing over your RIDE ticket and following the tracks,we need to be able to manipulate the ride and it's surroundings.This does not make a Sandbox as that idea is not possible at least not in the sense of a COMPLETE game.It is no longer a game when you just plop down a bunch of Legos,it is more like a puzzle to attach the pieces.

 

 

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  Hancakes

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10/21/12 1:58:32 PM#126
Originally posted by Gdemami

 


Originally posted by Hancakes

 

Funny how those clamoring about "real sandbox" are the ones asking for game mechanics to protect them. 


 

That is what makes it a sandbox. There is no freedom without effective law system.

You've clearly failed to grasp what a sandbox is. 

  DarthRaiden

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10/21/12 2:10:30 PM#127
Originally posted by kaiser3282
Originally posted by DarthRaiden

I support indy games that build on sandbox playstyles. Darkfall has been a very good attempt at first, the foundation was there, but at some point i guess they droped the ball on sandbox and just create a big arena for full loot PvP.  I assure you the initial playerbase was more divers and now i am with those who supported it till all the info shows they don't developü towards sandbox anymore.

I can't help if you miss the lack of a sandbox vision in that quote, i try to be me understandable by highlighting their arguments of wha they think they added to the game to make it "more sandboxy". Sieging, conquest system, mercenaries in sieges  (Siege, conquest and again Sieges , got their direction ?)  is their answer to sandbox . Because additions to PvP and combat are nice they still remain additions to one playstyle. I would have loved to hear additions like local and divers ressources, local banks and additions to crafting  to allow playstyles like trader to let local playcities concur about being the best market hub in the neighberhood, to make caravans and transport goods with ships a possible gameplay feature. This would also allow for real piracy playstyle.

Yup, lets cut on one of the best apsects of Darkfall, the big seamless world , instead of expanding on it and make it more important. Yup sounds like the gave up on sandbox finally and thats why my support is very reduced, because i paid them for all the 3 past years to develop the game in the sandbox  direction and not for it being the big PvP arena, with the only motivation to do PvP being bragging rights, thats just  too shallow IMO.

Hope my reasoning is understandable.

 

 

This from their F.A.Q. on the Darkfall (original) site:

 

"What kind of advanced features are you talking about?
 

Darkfall has most of the features one would associate with fantasy based MMORPGs, but also contains elements found in action and real-time strategy games. In Darkfall it's the players and their actions that shape the world. We provide you with the platform and the tools to engage in grand activities such as kingdom building, politics, strategy, diplomacy, combat, warfare, conquest, and racial wars. We also offer you the freedom and the option to not get involved in any of that if you don't want to, and to follow a path of your own."

This from the main page, sort of a feature list of sorts:

 

  • Role-playing, strategy, and shooter action in a MMOG
  • The largest handcrafted online world of its kind.
  • Over 10 thousand concurrent players per game world.
  • The largest MMORPG battles ever - involving thousands.
  • Ultimate PvP action, the #1 choice of top players and clans.
  • Seamless, zoneless, non-instanced world. No invisible walls.
  • No safe zones. Full loot. PvP everywhere with accountability.
  • No more leveling. Improve the skills you use.
  • Fight on mounts, ships, man cannons and vehicles.
  • Siege and conquer cities, build and protect your own.
  • Craft any item in the world and put your name on it.
 
This info has been there since very very early on. The focus is and always has been on the PvP & political aspect of the game, not the things you re complaining about them not focusing on. They never pretended to be something else. Its funny how some of you have this idea that if a game does not have every sandbox feature that other sandbox games had, or every single idea you can think of that would make it "more sandboxy" it suddenly stops becoming a sandbox.

You right this from the mainpage. But there is a FAQ and several official statements (like in this Q&A i quoted for example) where THEY claim how much of a wonderfull sandbox Darkfall is.

To give you a better example what i mean our clan started as a ANTI griefer clan and wanted to especially defend newer players and fight off PK's. One would think and whats the problem ? I can assure you it was nearly impossible to fullfill these role for 2,5 years !  What a sandbox is this where you can't play even the combat and PvP the way you like it and police the territory around the racial cities ?
 Instead you had to play it THEIR predesigned way, all you could try to setup was try to establsih a place around a playercity in which newbies rather start their experience and get in the way of regular siege warfare. You see there is again the big PvP arena of Darkfall and not "play the game like you want it to play".

Beside that  tasos uses to say in life shows how you can do "so many things beside PvP" and  "solve problems without violance" and what reality proves is there is nothing else viable in game (as intendependent role and playstyle) beside PvP and arena like combat.

 

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  Hancakes

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10/21/12 2:18:53 PM#128
Originally posted by Gdemami

 


Originally posted by Hancakes

 

Funny how those clamoring about "real sandbox" are the ones asking for game mechanics to protect them. 


 

That is what makes it a sandbox. There is no freedom without effective law system.

So by your definition DF 1 is a sandbox because it has a " law system"??? ( ie alignment )

  User Deleted
10/21/12 2:34:04 PM#129
Originally posted by Flute
It won't be a true sandbox, sorry.

No need to apologise, just explain why you think as such.

  User Deleted
10/21/12 2:36:11 PM#130
Originally posted by Gdemami

 


Originally posted by Hancakes

 

Funny how those clamoring about "real sandbox" are the ones asking for game mechanics to protect them. 


 

That is what makes it a sandbox. There is no freedom without effective law system.

Cool so any game without FFA pvp is a sandbox then. Fantastic.

  Cecropia

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10/21/12 2:40:38 PM#131
Originally posted by bunnyhopper
Originally posted by Gdemami

 


Originally posted by Hancakes

 

Funny how those clamoring about "real sandbox" are the ones asking for game mechanics to protect them. 


 

That is what makes it a sandbox. There is no freedom without effective law system.

Cool so any game without FFA pvp is a sandbox then. Fantastic.

Is this the thread that keeps on giving, or what?

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  User Deleted
10/21/12 2:42:08 PM#132
Originally posted by Cecropia
Originally posted by bunnyhopper
Originally posted by Gdemami

 


Originally posted by Hancakes

 

 


 

 

 

Is this the thread that keeps on giving, or what?

It is fairly hilarious, I must agree.

  Siveria

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10/21/12 2:46:24 PM#133
It'll be a piece of shit greifest of high levels picking on lowbies who can't defend themselves just like any open world pvp game is, this one is even worse if it allows full looting because it actually rewards them for being assholes. Imo all mmo's should use the daoc system where there is one big zone for pvp, and the rest is pve, thsi way it caters to both crouds, now I like pvp, but never been a fan of open world pvp games, and defently not a fan of any sort of pvp looting where they lose their gear (Though battlestar galatica online have players drop loot like npc's on death just more of it). Never been a fan due to the horrible community full of griefers that prey on lowbies and such that infest these types of games.

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  fenistil

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10/21/12 2:54:29 PM#134

It will be big open world fpp deathmatch like 'normal DFO'. 

This is same game, just with reworked class & some combat mechanics and some new content.

No idaa where anyone see some fundamental changes. It is big expansion on basic DFO coupled with wipe. 

Not whole new game made from scratch.

  Aerowyn

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10/21/12 2:55:25 PM#135
Originally posted by Siveria
It'll be a piece of shit greifest of high levels picking on lowbies who can't defend themselves just like any open world pvp game is, this one is even worse if it allows full looting because it actually rewards them for being assholes. Imo all mmo's should use the daoc system where there is one big zone for pvp, and the rest is pve, thsi way it caters to both crouds, now I like pvp, but never been a fan of open world pvp games, and defently not a fan of any sort of pvp looting where they lose their gear (Though battlestar galatica online have players drop loot like npc's on death just more of it). Never been a fan due to the horrible community full of griefers that prey on lowbies and such that infest these types of games.

i actually don't mind full loot or partial loot pvp but don't like when it's just a FFA since it does end up being way to many gankers.... i actually liked LIneage 2's original system http://l2vault.ign.com/View.php?view=FAQ.Detail&id=31

this caused only pkers to actually have a chance in loosing items was a nice balance imho.. you also felt like an outlaw being flagged red as npcs would attack you as well. The karma burn off was hell though

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  Gdemami

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10/21/12 3:11:12 PM#136


Originally posted by Hancakes

So by your definition DF 1 is a sandbox because it has a " law system"??? ( ie alignment )


Alignment isn't a law system, it is a flagging mechanics.

  Hancakes

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10/21/12 3:36:59 PM#137
Originally posted by Gdemami

 


Originally posted by Hancakes

 

So by your definition DF 1 is a sandbox because it has a " law system"??? ( ie alignment )


 

Alignment isn't a law system, it is a flagging mechanics.

And once again you have no idea what you're talking about.  So what are the ramifications of turning red in DF?  You turn red by "breaking the law" , being red comes with consequences.  How is that not a " law system" ?

  Params7

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10/21/12 3:43:34 PM#138
Originally posted by Gdemami

 


Originally posted by Hancakes

 

Funny how those clamoring about "real sandbox" are the ones asking for game mechanics to protect them. 


 

That is what makes it a sandbox. There is no freedom without effective law system.


This statement is freakin' gold, lol.

  Gdemami

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10/21/12 4:26:03 PM#139


Originally posted by Hancakes

How is that not a " law system" ?


Difference between law and flag is that law applies to everyone all the time, flagging applies to someone only and in particular case.


Then again, there is no retribution, you turn red but that is about all...


  User Deleted
10/21/12 4:44:51 PM#140
Originally posted by Gdemami

 


Originally posted by Hancakes

 

How is that not a " law system" ?


 

Difference between law and flag is that law applies to everyone all the time, flagging applies to someone only and in particular case.


Then again, there is no retribution, you turn red but that is about all...

 

lol wut?

 

The "law" applies to everyone in the game, you get "flagged" for breaking the "law". 

 

This thread is comedy gold.

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