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10/21/12 6:04:25 AM#41
refering to the 2.7 million box/digital sales of the XPAC alone.... still havent released in china ( which is were majority of players is) also some otehr countries i believe.
So dont kid yourself, game is still doing great. |
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10/21/12 7:06:17 AM#42
I do wish folks would stop trying to use sales/subs/popularity/xfire/etc figures to 'prove' anything. But you can't wish gamers into giving up their most popular fallacy, I guess, any more than you can Gamblers. |
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10/21/12 8:21:01 AM#43
Not everyone buys an expac in the first week. What is so hard to understand about this? The logic that if the game had 5m western subs it should have sold 5m copies in the first week is wrong. There are a lot of reasons why someone wouldn't buy an xpac right away. Also last time I checked WoW outsold both GW1 and GW2................................................... |
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10/21/12 9:09:23 AM#44
Originally posted by Thomas2006
This is why WoW should only be compared to WoW. It's such an anomaly, such an oddity, such a one-of-a-kind happening, that it's just ludicrous to even compare it to other MMOs in anything having to do with numbers or size. President of The Marvelously Meowhead Fan Club |
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JoeyMMO
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Joined: 10/09/11
To busy playing GW2 to post much around here... *shrug* |
10/21/12 11:33:01 AM#45
About 30 percent down, if it is 30 percent down, is a bit more than I expected (25%) but it's no real surprise. Still, it remains the 800 pound gorilla out there and that's no surprise either.
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10/21/12 11:39:43 AM#46
No one cares about WoW anymore except for WoW players (and WoW haters I guess). It will have a large playerbase that puts up with it for a very long time due to addiction and investment, but it's dying and has been since cataclysm (not DUE to cataclysm imo).
And I looked it up, MoP launched in china oct 2nd. Nice misinfo though, poster above me. |
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10/21/12 11:40:22 AM#47
I'm not buying the 10 million subs bit, anymore.. I mean, 2.7 sales of the xpac, to me, means they have about 2.71 million subs.
Not hating on it, still puts it ahead of every other MMO.. but only slightly ahead, which incidentally, seems a lot more realistic, too.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world. |
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10/21/12 11:46:42 AM#48
At this point I'm still just amazed that people enjoy WoW to begin with. I have no reason to be a hater but that game is one of the most boring and ugly MMOs to have ever been created. I think it's success is directly relevent to how easy they made it. Casual gamers and children can easily master it and that's the reason for their success. Good for them though, just wish this wasn't the new golden standard we had to hold all other new MMOs up to.
"God, please help us sinful children of Ivalice.." |
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10/21/12 11:52:46 AM#49
Originally posted by Vhaln It's fun making stuff up, huh? Even when actual FACTS are freely available. Still, just so much fun to use your imagination, right? It's not 10 million subs - it's 10 million players who have payed money in the last 30 days. That's always been the definition - they never hid it - always in plain sight in every press release / quarterly report. (mod edit) |
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10/21/12 1:19:33 PM#50
Originally posted by nsignific Haha, defensive much? When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world. |
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Ramonski7
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Joined: 5/21/03
"A wise man has something to say, but a fool just has to say something." |
10/21/12 2:11:06 PM#51
Is this debate still going on? Look the game is old...8 years for mmorpgs is like 8 dog years. We are at the stage of WoW's life where it's more like a city than a hip new club. And in a city the age (levels) are a lot more diverse than a club.
So buying a new expansion is like getting a car now. You don't really buy a car for an 8 year old, I mean you technically could but she won't need it for a long, long time. But my point is the city ain't going nowhere. So what's the rush? Players stop rushing for all things WoW, like years ago...catchup guys.
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10/21/12 3:51:10 PM#52
Originally posted by Vhaln Wait what? Slightly ahead? Even if WoW had only 2.7m subs it would still be super ultra ahead not slightly. Which MMO is even close to WoW's numbers? Last time I checked the second best MMO had <300k subs :D That's not even a fraction of 2.7m let alone WoW's 5m+ western subs. |
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10/21/12 4:12:04 PM#53
Originally posted by fivoroth
Didn't I read somewhere that GW2 sold a little over 2 million between digital and box sales? Did I imagine that? 2.3, if I remember correctly, but maybe I dreamed it. /shrug President of The Marvelously Meowhead Fan Club |
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10/21/12 4:18:48 PM#54
Originally posted by Istavaan Blizzard is the one who reports sub numbers, not me. First, they include Asian accounts in the sub numbers because they are subscribing; just in a different way than everyone else (they don't buy game boxes, and pay for game time in smaller increments rather than monthly). Secondly, they aren't counting accounts like yours that's been frozen, because you aren't subscribing, so stop being so dramatic. |
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10/21/12 5:03:20 PM#55
Originally posted by Sukiyaki Just to point out again.....all these games recently (GW2, SWTOR) achieved 2 mill in sales weeks (2 weeks for GW2) or months (1 month for SWTOR) after they launched.....MoP did 2.7 million in 1 week (keep in mind, it hasnet even launched in China)....MoP is now 1 month in...who wants to bet that they sold more than 2.7 million? lol |
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10/21/12 5:07:13 PM#56
Originally posted by doodphace See what I mean? lol...
'Seamless world' - A world lacking visible or phys. seams, forming forced breaking points during transition and movement;
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10/21/12 5:12:02 PM#57
Originally posted by Sukiyaki Oh so we aren't all humanbeings it doesn't matter were the subs come from subs are subs. |
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10/21/12 5:12:34 PM#58
"Just to point out again.....all these games recently (GW2, SWTOR) achieved 2 mill in sales weeks (2 weeks for GW2) or months (1 month for SWTOR) after they launched.....MoP did 2.7 million in 1 week (keep in mind, it hasnet even launched in China)....MoP is now 1 month in...who wants to bet that they sold more than 2.7 million? lol"
Keep in mind WoW was no smashing hit in the first couple of months either. It grew over time, hence other games should be given the time to unfold their potential aswell. To answer you question, I bet Blizzard sold way more than 2.7 million or at least will, eventually. MoP got a couple of pretty fair reviews from what I've read and is a pretty decent game overall. It may be old, but it is not stagnant, which keeps it alive. As long as Blizzard adds enjoyable content, there will be people playing it.
On topic, the numbers of sales don't prove anything. For the haters who hate WoW for their continued success, will continue to hate it for that. Haters who hate WoW for anything else are not haters, they are trolls. For those who play WoW, they still got enough other players to share content with.
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10/21/12 5:15:03 PM#59
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10/21/12 5:17:19 PM#60
Originally posted by smh_alot you're absolutely right. you see for example i have a sub, but my account will only be active until 11/6 and then it's done i haven t logged in since D3 came out accept once and that was to take screenies of my toons and say bye to everyone. Before that i was playing two other mmos so basically haven't been on for more then 2 weeks this whole year, even after mines done tho they'll still count it as active im sure.
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