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  ShakyMo

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10/21/12 10:25:21 AM#381
I think soe will have a moderate hit with planetside 2, the original was a good concept but ahead of its time (and players internet connections of the time)

EQ next I'm not so sure. If its a sandbox I can't see how they can square that with the traditional EQ fan base. Both EQ games are mostly centred on hardcore progression pveers. You can really have progression style pve within a sandbox, it just doesn't work.

If course what is probably happening is it will be primarily an open world theme park like eq1, daoc & gw2. Then they will add some sandbox elements like a more sandboxy crafting system, player housing etc..

I really, really cant see them dropping phat lewt and the tiers of pve content you have to gear up for as that is what most EQ fans like. Whereas players that like sandboxes like eve or uo or whatever will probably avoid EQ next thinking its a progression pve game like the first 2.

A quality game that plays like eve but in a fantasy world where you control your character directly with wasd movement would rock though.
  Icewhite

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10/21/12 11:21:20 AM#382
Originally posted by Hedeon

the whole problem with Smed´s hype speech about EQNext is that it leaves everyone to their own imagination about what their end product will be like

We'll all calm down in a couple of days.

The most sandbox-y specific detail in that announcement was "Housing for DCUO!"

Just not much beyond good lip-service it's pretty typical marketing speak.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  rungard

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The Sandbox Foundation does not exist!

10/21/12 11:21:52 AM#383
Originally posted by ShakyMo
I think soe will have a moderate hit with planetside 2, the original was a good concept but ahead of its time (and players internet connections of the time)

EQ next I'm not so sure. If its a sandbox I can't see how they can square that with the traditional EQ fan base. Both EQ games are mostly centred on hardcore progression pveers. You can really have progression style pve within a sandbox, it just doesn't work.

If course what is probably happening is it will be primarily an open world theme park like eq1, daoc & gw2. Then they will add some sandbox elements like a more sandboxy crafting system, player housing etc..

I really, really cant see them dropping phat lewt and the tiers of pve content you have to gear up for as that is what most EQ fans like. Whereas players that like sandboxes like eve or uo or whatever will probably avoid EQ next thinking its a progression pve game like the first 2.

A quality game that plays like eve but in a fantasy world where you control your character directly with wasd movement would rock though.

 originally there was this game and it didnt really have raids or tiered gear progression. It had 2 dragons.

It ws called everquest. It wa great, and then someting happend to it that turned it into the most raidcentric game of them all. The original game was devoured by it.

i want them to bring back the spirit of the original before it was corrupted and package it in a world that is technologically possible today.

  dreamer05

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10/21/12 11:25:59 AM#384
Everquest truly has my heart and this gives me hope.  However, we have to remember Smedley and his way of speaking non-truths.  Don't trust him as far as you can throw him but Everquest Next is certainly something I'll be watching.

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  dustyhayes

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10/21/12 12:21:03 PM#385
Originally posted by rungard
well we have the required 350 posts in one day in one thread. Can we get a forum now.

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  arobi

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10/21/12 12:29:49 PM#386
i gotta play it or it never happened!!!
  User Deleted
10/21/12 12:31:25 PM#387
Originally posted by PittyH
Whatever EQ2 next is, it's not a sandbox unless 99% of the items in the game can be destroyed and created.

I know, 98% is just not good enough.

  Rydeson

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10/21/12 12:38:48 PM#388

     If they truely want to get back to an EverQuest feel, they need to can the themepark hand holding.. NO QUEST HUBS.. NONE, NADA, ZILCH.. ZIPPO.. I think you get the idea.. This is not to say that their can't be repeatable turn in rewards like, "turn in 10 pristine wolf pelts to a trader or craftsman"..  I further would like to see a dynamic world similar to what GW2 is doing.. I want a game that if I want to go around and explore, I can.. If I want to go camp the wolf caves to get pristine wolf pelts.. I can.. There has to be more freedom of play, and need to avoid this 1/2  baked bread crumb trail junk we are being fed..  Leave out anything that remotely looks like a storyline.. I don't want to relive what someone predetermined.. I want to create my own history and biography.. TYVM..

     And as of late.. Honestly, I don't see anyone, especially SOE bucking the system and move more into a sandbox genre.. But if they can.. Kudo's to them.. I'll wait and see and not hold my breath..

  DSWBeef

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10/21/12 5:33:14 PM#389
Everyones idea of a sandbox is different. Just like how i think a Sandbox doesnt need full loot pvp. IB4 im called a carebear.

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  pvpirl

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10/21/12 9:17:04 PM#390


Originally posted by DSWBeef
Everyones idea of a sandbox is different. Just like how i think a Sandbox doesnt need full loot pvp. IB4 im called a carebear.

I have been a PK since pre UO (The Realm) and throughout my MMO career. I used to be brutal as fuck, carving a red river through naked miners and roleplayers. Hell, I was suspended from a humanities class in 10th grade for PKing my teacher and looting her tower keys and talking shit to her online after she found out I played UO and invited me to a pixelated tea party....

However, looking at Darkfall or any of the non-production UO shards available today, the wolves that want full loot also want the sheep, those aformentioned miners and roleplayers on which to prey, back in the day they had precious few other games to run to. Nowadays, with all the options we have available, the sheep have a bit more say, so, for a healthy wolf pack and healthy herd, full loot is a no-go. I need something though, like coin, or materials, etc. Maybe 1 item. I'm sure a compromise will be found somewhere, or maybe I'm just getting soft in my 'old age'.

  DSWBeef

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10/21/12 9:19:55 PM#391
Originally posted by pvpirl

 


Originally posted by DSWBeef
Everyones idea of a sandbox is different. Just like how i think a Sandbox doesnt need full loot pvp. IB4 im called a carebear.

 

I have been a PK since pre UO (The Realm) and throughout my MMO career. I used to be brutal as fuck, carving a red river through naked miners and roleplayers. Hell, I was suspended from a humanities class in 10th grade for PKing my teacher and looting her tower keys and talking shit to her online after she found out I played UO and invited me to a pixelated tea party....

However, looking at Darkfall or any of the non-production UO shards available today, the wolves that want full loot also want the sheep, those aformentioned miners and roleplayers on which to prey, back in the day they had precious few other games to run to. Nowadays, with all the options we have available, the sheep have a bit more say, so, for a healthy wolf pack and healthy herd, full loot is a no-go. I need something though, like coin, or materials, etc. Maybe 1 item. I'm sure a compromise will be found somewhere, or maybe I'm just getting soft in my 'old age'.

I dont mind gold or even EXP taking but any gear is a no no. Unless is under a certain rarity.

Playing: Archeage Alpha, World of Warcraft, and Diablo 3
Waiting on: Archeage, Everquest Next and The Black Desert

  pvpirl

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10/21/12 9:43:04 PM#392

If you look to a certain everquest pvp server that is less than offical, you'd see that xp loss is the WRONG answer. I'd say coins, mats, mundane items (arrows, bandages, regs, the like) is ideal.

  Tamanous

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10/21/12 9:59:48 PM#393
Originally posted by DSWBeef
Originally posted by pvpirl

 


Originally posted by DSWBeef
Everyones idea of a sandbox is different. Just like how i think a Sandbox doesnt need full loot pvp. IB4 im called a carebear.

 

I have been a PK since pre UO (The Realm) and throughout my MMO career. I used to be brutal as fuck, carving a red river through naked miners and roleplayers. Hell, I was suspended from a humanities class in 10th grade for PKing my teacher and looting her tower keys and talking shit to her online after she found out I played UO and invited me to a pixelated tea party....

However, looking at Darkfall or any of the non-production UO shards available today, the wolves that want full loot also want the sheep, those aformentioned miners and roleplayers on which to prey, back in the day they had precious few other games to run to. Nowadays, with all the options we have available, the sheep have a bit more say, so, for a healthy wolf pack and healthy herd, full loot is a no-go. I need something though, like coin, or materials, etc. Maybe 1 item. I'm sure a compromise will be found somewhere, or maybe I'm just getting soft in my 'old age'.

I dont mind gold or even EXP taking but any gear is a no no. Unless is under a certain rarity.

Hopefully SOE will actually introduce true social mechanics. So called hardcore pvprs aways demand entitlements to pvp freely while being dead against entitlements for players wanting protection. Sadly they are either ignorant or so entirely stupid that they do not realize you cannot have rebellion without opposition. A sandbox game allows the choice of anarchy and society. Society cannot exist without protections and institutions yet we rarely see these options put into sandbox games. Typically they only support anarchy so we get pvprs whining for freedom yet socially minded players without any mechanics to support their goals.

 

What we need is the ability for players to be true anarchists if they want but also the ability to face serious consequenses for their actions if they choose to go against organized and protected institutions. Institutions build up with the blood and sweat of those who with to protect it. This is why so many fear sandbox games ... they do not understand what a themepark game is when they play it. A themepark game is a game where protections are built into the game and artificial. Players have no control over it so freedom is restricted. A sandbox game also MUST support protections but this would be in the hands of the players to build up these institutions and protect them. Most sandbox games do not even offer this yet allow players to gank freely and without penalty (no form of restriction of freedom. IE jail, perma-death, etc).

 

If a player wants to kill another player and be able to fully loot them then that player should share equal risk. This is how EQNext should answer the question of full open world pvp. The players creating social structure should have the ability to create the safe areas they want by creating extreme risk for those acting against it. They must be able to define someone a criminal for you can only call someone a criminal if you have the ability to enforce your laws. Besides I still think SOE will have defined safe zones and largely opt-in pvp for the most part anyway. Through either freedom to empower themselves through sandbox elements or some programmed cheats like in themepark gakes I imagine SOE will still allow those not wanting full time pvp safe options.

You stay sassy!

  DSWBeef

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10/21/12 10:00:01 PM#394
Originally posted by pvpirl

If you look to a certain everquest pvp server that is less than offical, you'd see that xp loss is the WRONG answer. I'd say coins, mats, mundane items (arrows, bandages, regs, the like) is ideal.

Yea i see what you're saying. The mundane thing while may seem stupid could be a useful loot option for pvp. I know kiloling someone and stealing all their postions would be evil but not game breakingly evil.

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Waiting on: Archeage, Everquest Next and The Black Desert

  Monamia222

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10/21/12 10:20:05 PM#395

Lootable open world pvp?  There are many games out there like that now.  Go play one of those.  To add that to a game called EQ anything would just be wrong.   I hope they give us something more along the lines of what EQ was in the beginning and not some gankfest type of garbage you can pick up in the stores right now in the bargain bins.  Plz give the other side something to play that's challenging and social w/o the mindless pking rabble.

  pvpirl

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10/21/12 10:22:08 PM#396


Originally posted by dustyhayes

Originally posted by rungard well we have the required 350 posts in one day in one thread. Can we get a forum now.
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  DSWBeef

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10/21/12 10:23:12 PM#397
Originally posted by pvpirl

 


Originally posted by dustyhayes

Originally posted by rungard well we have the required 350 posts in one day in one thread. Can we get a forum now.
/Signed +1

 

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  Kenze

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10/21/12 10:34:25 PM#398
remember the early days of eq when you had to stare at your spellbook to mem spells or meditate? when there were racial languages you had to practice to learn? when you had to train sense heading? I miss the days of getting a group together and setting up camps with tanks and healers and pullers. Remember standing in EC tunnel under the torches showing people the contents of you bags to sell stuff? I hope EQNext brings back some of these things.

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  Kenze

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10/21/12 10:35:23 PM#399
Originally posted by sfarque318

Lootable open world pvp?  There are many games out there like that now.  Go play one of those.  To add that to a game called EQ anything would just be wrong.   I hope they give us something more along the lines of what EQ was in the beginning and not some gankfest type of garbage you can pick up in the stores right now in the bargain bins.  Plz give the other side something to play that's challenging and social w/o the mindless pking rabble.

 

right on dude!

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  AutemOx

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10/21/12 10:35:49 PM#400
Originally posted by DSWBeef
Originally posted by pvpirl

 


Originally posted by dustyhayes

Originally posted by rungard well we have the required 350 posts in one day in one thread. Can we get a forum now.
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PVPIRL, may I recommend a simple ear as a trophy for PKing?  That was always enough for me back in D2.  Well, hardcore D2 so nevermind :/  But still it isn't a bad trophy.  I think 1 item off peoples body would be OK as well but that just depends how easy it is to spawn camp...  Or maybe the item would only drop once every 30 minutes or so.

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