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General Discussion  » Do you feel that GW2 deserves the critical acclaim it's gotten from the press and gaming sites?

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  Zorgo

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Who did wrong? The advertiser hired to sell the game or the consumer who put faith in advertising?

10/20/12 8:48:24 AM#381
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by Aerowyn 

i see your point.. although see theirs as well.. mostly people view carrot/stick games as synonymous with gear treadmills it's sort of the defining feature of that type of game and always has been imho. Not sure on the block though.. i just read several of your posts and don't really see any reason why someone would need to block you

I tried to explain several times that the "eternal grind", in GW2, was only optional. He ignored what I was saying to repeat the same stuff again. There's no third time, I won't waste more of my time arguing with someone who doesn't listen.

Fact is there's no mandatory grind at 80 in GW2 to be/remain competitive, neither PvE nor PvP wise. Anyone pretending otherwise is not telling the truth, and I don't see why I would waste time arguing with someone who uses flawed argumentation and wrong facts as basis and doesn't even read what I'm saying.

He actually asked me to give an example of carrot/stick in GW2 and said he wasn't satisfied. So he requested that 3rd response.

 

  halflife25

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10/20/12 8:53:03 AM#382

There is no strict way to define 'carrot on the stick'  It is open to interpretation. Even mere cosmetic gear or weapons can very well be carrot on the stick.

If someone is blocking you for giving your opinion.....trust me that person isn't worth talking to in first place.

  Zorgo

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Who did wrong? The advertiser hired to sell the game or the consumer who put faith in advertising?

10/20/12 8:56:02 AM#383
Originally posted by Zorgo
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by Aerowyn 

i see your point.. although see theirs as well.. mostly people view carrot/stick games as synonymous with gear treadmills it's sort of the defining feature of that type of game and always has been imho. Not sure on the block though.. i just read several of your posts and don't really see any reason why someone would need to block you

I tried to explain several times that the "eternal grind", in GW2, was only optional. He ignored what I was saying to repeat the same stuff again. There's no third time, I won't waste more of my time arguing with someone who doesn't listen.

Fact is there's no mandatory grind at 80 in GW2 to be/remain competitive, neither PvE nor PvP wise. Anyone pretending otherwise is not telling the truth, and I don't see why I would waste time arguing with someone who uses flawed argumentation and wrong facts as basis and doesn't even read what I'm saying.

He actually asked me to give an example of carrot/stick in GW2 and said he wasn't satisfied. So he requested that 3rd response.

Carrot/stick may be a common description used to describe WoW and similar games gear treadmill.

I still think the larger since of the colloquialism could be applied to all games.

There are rewards, but you have to work for them. To me, that always has and always will be carrot/stick.  I don't think it is a bad description.

I agreed with him about the gear treadmill, but he was so offended at my use of 'carrot/stick'; he blocked me. Even though he asked for my response.

I don't feel like a bad person for saying that GW2 has rewards with incentives.

This isn't my problem.

 

oops, quoted instead of editing.

  Zorgo

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Who did wrong? The advertiser hired to sell the game or the consumer who put faith in advertising?

10/20/12 9:08:14 AM#384
Originally posted by halflife25

There is no strict way to define 'carrot on the stick'  It is open to interpretation. Even mere cosmetic gear or weapons can very well be carrot on the stick.

If someone is blocking you for giving your opinion.....trust me that person isn't worth talking to in first place.

Agreed. That was my last word; thx for support.

  loulaki

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10/20/12 9:18:16 AM#385

well i dunno if this is the best game of all times, or the game which will change our lifes BUT nobody can disagree thats the best MMO this year and considered to other releases its far far away better, than vanilla WoW, or whatever.

yes there are problems i see them too, but compared with the rest MMOs out there you cant disagree, even if they dont pay you ...

 

you can continue your whinnies ; )

  dustyhayes

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10/20/12 10:10:15 AM#386
Yes, GW2 deserves all the positive press & crictical acclaim it recieves hands down one of the best theme-parkers MMO's to be released in a long time, GW2 isn't a lazy copy and paste WoW clone #20 its comes load with innovations & high production values wrapped in the B2P model which allows me to play other games, what more do I want.
  Whiskey_Sam

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10/20/12 2:39:08 PM#387
It's a good game, but with the number of broken skill points all over the place, and the exploits and broken WvW systems, it's rated higher than it should be.  It also continues a trend that I find worrying in emphasizing solo or small group play to the exclusion of large group play.  With party sizes limited to five, if you have 6-9 people who like play together, there is no instanced end-game PvE content they can all do together.

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  User Deleted
10/20/12 2:43:47 PM#388
Originally posted by loulaki

well i dunno if this is the best game of all times, or the game which will change our lifes BUT nobody can disagree thats the best MMO this year and considered to other releases its far far away better, than vanilla WoW, or whatever.

yes there are problems i see them too, but compared with the rest MMOs out there you cant disagree, even if they dont pay you ...

 

you can continue your whinnies ; )

I think here a lot of people who disagree, but by all means, continue living in your bubble.

  Deathspank

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10/20/12 2:51:52 PM#389

Yes I definitely think it deserves all the hype and praise it got, considering that predecessors like SWOTOR and FF14 got way more and were, IMHO, absolute shit when it came to delivering on that hype(especially FF 14). 

 

A huge infestation of bugs, both technical (crash to desktop) and gameplay (skills, traits,etc) related keep it from being the prefect commodity however.

 

It is a good game and well worth the money I spent on it. 

  User Deleted
10/20/12 3:29:32 PM#390
Originally posted by grimgryphon
Originally posted by loulaki

well i dunno if this is the best game of all times, or the game which will change our lifes BUT nobody can disagree thats the best MMO this year and considered to other releases its far far away better, than vanilla WoW, or whatever.

yes there are problems i see them too, but compared with the rest MMOs out there you cant disagree, even if they dont pay you ...

 

you can continue your whinnies ; )

I think here a lot of people who disagree, but by all means, continue living in your bubble.

Why aren't you playing what you think is the "best MMO this year" then, and post on its forums to improve its community, instead of posting here? Good question, heh?

(I expect the usual nonsensical answer "because I can", or something similar)

  loulaki

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10/20/12 4:06:01 PM#391
Originally posted by grimgryphon
Originally posted by loulaki

well i dunno if this is the best game of all times, or the game which will change our lifes BUT nobody can disagree thats the best MMO this year and considered to other releases its far far away better, than vanilla WoW, or whatever.

yes there are problems i see them too, but compared with the rest MMOs out there you cant disagree, even if they dont pay you ...

 

you can continue your whinnies ; )

I think here a lot of people who disagree, but by all means, continue living in your bubble.

please help me to get out of my bubble and show me the best MMO released this year, i challenge you to add and the previous year!

; )

  User Deleted
10/20/12 4:34:41 PM#392
Originally posted by loulaki
Originally posted by grimgryphon
Originally posted by loulaki

well i dunno if this is the best game of all times, or the game which will change our lifes BUT nobody can disagree thats the best MMO this year and considered to other releases its far far away better, than vanilla WoW, or whatever.

yes there are problems i see them too, but compared with the rest MMOs out there you cant disagree, even if they dont pay you ...

 

you can continue your whinnies ; )

I think here a lot of people who disagree, but by all means, continue living in your bubble.

please help me to get out of my bubble and show me the best MMO released this year, i challenge you to add and the previous year!

; )

You have to determine what the best MMO is for you, but double negatives aside, making blanket statements like "nobody can disagree that it's the best MMO this year" will prove you wrong 100% of the time.

  Zorgo

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Who did wrong? The advertiser hired to sell the game or the consumer who put faith in advertising?

10/20/12 6:44:12 PM#393
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by grimgryphon
Originally posted by loulaki

well i dunno if this is the best game of all times, or the game which will change our lifes BUT nobody can disagree thats the best MMO this year and considered to other releases its far far away better, than vanilla WoW, or whatever.

yes there are problems i see them too, but compared with the rest MMOs out there you cant disagree, even if they dont pay you ...

 

you can continue your whinnies ; )

I think here a lot of people who disagree, but by all means, continue living in your bubble.

Why aren't you playing what you think is the "best MMO this year" then, and post on its forums to improve its community, instead of posting here? Good question, heh?

(I expect the usual nonsensical answer "because I can", or something similar)

No. For a thread titled 'do you feel GW2 deserves the critical acclaim.."? 

I expect to see opinions on both sides.

So, I think a better question is, why did you expect a pro/con topic to only include the pros?

p.s. This guy is blocking me so that he doesn't have to see negative opinions of GW2; so really I'm just talking to myself...

p.p.s I also can't deny that I think GW2 is the best new online game to come out this year. No question really. Doesn't mean I think it deserves the level of acclaim it has received - so careful fans before you put me on your shoulders.

  nero0102

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10/21/12 1:23:07 AM#394

My specific personal experience is just that ArenaNet is committing credit card fraud.  I haven't been able to play the game since I bought it over a week ago.

I'm stuck with trying to get my credit card company to get my money back from them right now.  So everything would pretty much be a 0 rating.  For me the game doesn't exist, their support is terrible, and the whole episode will taint all future games from NCSoft/ArenaNet.

 

 

  wordiz

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Posts: 481

10/21/12 1:29:46 AM#395
People miss the gear grind. Simple as that. If they add that in with later content the game is near perfect. More side stuff would be a plus too. Guild castles and player housing, with decorations to earn, guild versus guild matches in the future? I hope so. I think the game is a solid platform, but I'm not gonna lie, you do run out of things to do atm.

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  loulaki

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10/21/12 2:44:50 AM#396
Originally posted by grimgryphon
 

You have to determine what the best MMO is for you, but double negatives aside, making blanket statements like "nobody can disagree that it's the best MMO this year" will prove you wrong 100% of the time.

well best is something compared to others its doing its job much better.

 

so between these years (lets say 2010-12), inform me for an MMORPG with 1) better gameplay (only TERA could reach the dynamic combat, but again its static skills burn it to the ground) 2) better graphics - art - enviroment 3) better PvP features (even if i would like open world PvP, the huge but instanced, WvW is awesome compared to the battlegrounds.. and the sPvP has all the potentials for TRUE competitive gameplay) 4) the ammount of innovetions like the break of holy trinity, the dynamiic events at the scale and the polish, the crafting, etc ... 5) and all these in B2P format ...

 

all these compared to other games place that one far ahead, and yes there are problems and big ones ,as the dungeon rewards, the lack of a proper beta(which leads to the bugs), the broken economy, etc but again compared to others again its far ahead ...

 

i still wait from your part to show me a game whicch have done better than GW2 in these 2-3 months ...

  Siug

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10/21/12 2:51:30 AM#397
Originally posted by loulaki
Originally posted by grimgryphon
Originally posted by loulaki

well i dunno if this is the best game of all times, or the game which will change our lifes BUT nobody can disagree thats the best MMO this year and considered to other releases its far far away better, than vanilla WoW, or whatever.

yes there are problems i see them too, but compared with the rest MMOs out there you cant disagree, even if they dont pay you ...

 

you can continue your whinnies ; )

I think here a lot of people who disagree, but by all means, continue living in your bubble.

please help me to get out of my bubble and show me the best MMO released this year, i challenge you to add and the previous year!

; )

Kind a bad year if a game like GW2 is the best... 

  red_cruiser

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10/21/12 2:56:57 AM#398
GW 2 is no doubt a well made game; it's just a little on the dull side.
  evilprey

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10/21/12 3:07:33 AM#399
gw2 is best mmo experience i've ever had
  MosesZD

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10/21/12 1:12:48 PM#400
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Pilnkplonk
Originally posted by grimal

It deserves accolades for being a great game (I firmly believe that).

But being a long-time MMORPG player, this game is  not an MMORPG.  So to give it any praise as that is simply underserving.

It's like saying "Pulp Fiction" is a brilliant comedy.  Brilliant film, yes.  Comedy?  May have some elements but that hardly makes it one.

It's much more of a mmo than, say, SWTOR. I wonder what exactly defines a mmo in some people's minds, monthly subscription, lol? It's at least as much a mmo as a WoW is, and if you don't consider WoW a mmo, then...

I do consider WoW an MMORPG. GW2 I do not.  For me it lacks too many RPG elements to be considered one.  Hence, I would call it an MMO but not an MMORPG.

 

That's just silly to the point of laughable.  By definition, it's a role-playing game as it has structured character development, advancement, story, etc.  which are the elements that define 'role-playing' game.

 

Unless, of course, you decide to make up your own definitions so you can bash a game...  

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