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10/19/12 5:59:04 PM#21
Originally posted by Baseline Thats a guess at best and a bad one. I have to be honest with you. We have completely blown up the design of EverQuest Next. For the last year and a half we have been working on something we are not ready to show. Why did we blow up the design? The design was evolutionary. It was EverQuest III. It was something that was slightly better than what had come before it. It was slightly better.What we are building is something that we will be very proud to call EverQuest. It will be the largest sandbox-style MMO ever designed.--Smed |
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10/19/12 6:07:56 PM#22
Originally posted by Quirhid It's more than 400.000 subscribers. It's definitely in the top 10 of MMOs and probably even in the top 5. Beyond that EVE is about the only subscription-based MMO that's actually growing. Can't say that about many others. We are the bunny. |
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10/19/12 6:53:34 PM#23
Give the man a break, it seems like Smedley is listening & learning and is trying to returning SOE back to its grass roots wanting to make a decent original MMO instead of wasting time copying & pasting "the next WoW killer" and on top of that its going to be a sandboxing extravaganza, we should be giving the guy some kudo's for going againist the grain and trying to deliver something fresh and next-gen
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10/19/12 7:19:36 PM#24
Originally posted by cyandk
You mean doing the same thing that has sunk a few titles this year was the sane thing to do? Dear developers, In my humble and inexperienced opinion if I can get through all the content you spent the last 5+ years working on within 6 months you have not done your work justice. Please give me, and everyone else, some tools to create our own content from what you have made so I can stay in your world and appreciate it longer than three weeks before I say "meh". It's a shame and I'd rather not do that to something you put so much of yourself in to. |
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Elikal
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Joined: 2/09/06
“No path is darker then when your eyes are shut.” -Flemeth |
10/19/12 7:27:04 PM#25
Smed is in the industry a VERY long time, given how fast people come and go in the MMO business. And many others who were thus attacked left the buisness, see the Bioware-Docs. So I must assume Smed really loves what he is doing, making MMOs, and he tries to make MMOs he likes to play, since as far as we know he is one of those guys who play their own MMOs. Unlike, again, many of the Bioware dudes, who actually never played MMOs. And of course making money. ;)
Holy Trinity who art in our MMORPGs! Blessed be thy speccs, as in WOW so in all MMOs! Our daily loot grant us, and forgive us our noobness, as we forgive the noobs! And do not lead us to disconnects, But deliver us from mediocrity, For thine is the specialization and the teamwork and the endgame, Until cancellation, Amen! |
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Foomerang
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Joined: 11/10/05
A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still |
10/19/12 7:44:23 PM#26
John Smedley's intentions are to crush his enemies, see them driven before him, and to hear the lamentation of their women. Themepark is not a sub genre, its an excuse. |
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10/19/12 7:46:04 PM#27
Originally posted by gobla In the NA-EU market, EvE is probably #2 in subs. SWTOR might still be above it, but its close. In fact,only 3 games in the history of MMORPGs have been able to sustain 400K subs in the NA/EU market. WoW, EQ and EvE |
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10/19/12 7:46:05 PM#28
Ahhh ... so that is the guy who wants Wow clones and nothing else on the market.
Glad to meet you cyandk! You truly are an enigma! |
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10/19/12 7:51:21 PM#29
Something note worthy is that they never said it was going to be a sandbox, it was specifically stated that it was going to be a sandbox-style game.
With the wording I don't expect to see a UO or SWG style game. It is likely going to be more along the lines of GW2. I forsee a themepark game that will incorperate some sandbox elements but not a great deal. Until we can get more info the only thing I expect at this point in time is a themepark that abandons quest hubs and the traditional questing system.
In the end though, none of us have enough information so it's a wait and see kind of thing right now. |
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10/19/12 7:52:57 PM#30
Originally posted by Foomerang Bioware thought it was "The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair." |
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Foomerang
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Joined: 11/10/05
A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still |
10/19/12 7:55:23 PM#31
Haha indeed! Themepark is not a sub genre, its an excuse. |
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10/19/12 7:59:07 PM#32
I think he's articulating a vision at SOE that gaming is moving beyond themeparks... or even themeparks with few new shinies each expansion.
There seems to be a trend toward players wanting developers (and developers thinking they can now deliver) getting back to creating virtual worlds for us to play in.
If it doesn't work, it doesn't work - but I certainly won't fault SOE for trying. |
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10/19/12 8:05:41 PM#33
Sandbox style, not themepark, not sandpark! reading comprehension anyone? And why is he doing the game? Well DUH to make money and to make a game they are proud of! I cant believe how many butt hurt forum dwellers there are here!
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VengeSunsoar
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Joined: 3/10/04
GRIND DOES NOT EXIST. IT IS ENTIRELY YOUR PERCEPTION. |
10/19/12 8:07:23 PM#34
Originally posted by strangiato2112 Except doesn't have that many players in just in NA/EU, eve is played on the world market. http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1458477 It is still one of the highest in the west though. You know, in ancient Egypt. One of the hieroglyphics on the walls of the pyramids actually says 'I am upset as my heir will ruin my kingdom' or something to that affect. This is 5000BC stuff and you know what? Nothing has changed. :P |
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10/19/12 8:16:12 PM#35
Originally posted by VengeSunsoar Looks like its almost all NA/EU. Australia, while geographically far away, is typically part of the NA/EU region for MMORPG terms. Not positive about Russia though. And then there is 10% other, which probably has a bunch of NA/EU in it anyway. So at worst, 85% NA/EU. Which still puts out it #2 or 3 current and #3 all time (sustained) |
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Foomerang
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Joined: 11/10/05
A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still |
10/19/12 8:21:35 PM#36
Actual amount of eve players is about a third of its subscription numbers. Multiple accounts are common so are bots. Themepark is not a sub genre, its an excuse. |
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10/19/12 9:15:50 PM#37
THey've tried the themepark route a few times maybe he feels there's a higher ceiling with a sandbox?
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10/19/12 9:30:53 PM#38
What is John Smedley intentions?Presumably, to stash away more cash for retirement? Silly question, really. Just assign him whatever intentions you'd like him to have, in the traditional straw man manner. |
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10/19/12 9:37:54 PM#39
I think its a smart move..
he's now paying attention to a starving part of the MMO market. |
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10/19/12 10:04:03 PM#40
Well, if hes trying even harder to get our cash, then all the more power to him. That means he is going to make something that I really want to play.
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