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  Spider3

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Joined: 10/17/12
Posts: 33

 
OP  10/17/12 10:02:46 AM#1

Hi gamerZ,

after many years of offline rpg playing, I decided to kill  my social life jumping again in some online rpg. I got pretty fast very addicted..but you know how it works isnt? ^^

I played ultima online for over 5 years and had amazing times! I never was a big PVPer but I loved to PvM, guild, and escpecially the champion spawn, the doom gauntled, the artifact, the time spent to increase your skills and finally being able to tame a dragon, the social life around britain bank, the player runned vendors, the houses to visit across the world.

I made a big selection between games, checking carefully the Game List on this site, and at the end I choosed to start playing Rift. (The alternative was Archage Online, but it's still quiet far from release)

The graphic is amazing, the system complex and satisfying, a lot of skills that reminds my of UO, and the battle system, especially on rifts, is also great. The world is so huge, and soon with the new expansion will be the biggest fantasy world of internet ;) I tought..wow,  I've found the perfect game..but after a few weeks playing, I start missing something.

The social part is ok, but not so much like I remembered. A cold Acution House, no player spamming around selling stuff, or asking to join for a dungeon adventure or else.

In UO I loved the collect rarities (spawn only every week, or month, or year, and some were also UNIQUE, one single item in the whole world!), dirty expensive artifacts, and veteran rewards. In Rift I can't find any of this - the list of RARE items are more than 400, and they spawn constantly. I would not call them "rares"...and I've seen no evidence of UNIQUE items..or Am i Wrong?

I think you got what I am looking for..a mmorpg with a nice social interaction, with true rewards or rares/unique items to hunt, seek, buy and , if possible, with non-instanced housing system (this is asking much...Archage will be agian the answer).

I've seen RaiderZ it's coming out soon, and could possibly be a valid alternative. Anyway I'm not looking for a brand new mmorpg with extreme good graphic, also something released in the past years is ok.

Thanks a lot for reading and your suggestions ;)

 

  Draron

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Joined: 5/07/11
Posts: 1009

10/17/12 10:12:24 AM#2

UO's still there. The Siege Perilous server (official) has no item insurance, no Trammel Faccet, one character per account so economy is stable, etc. I play currently and there's still nothing like it out there - closest thing I played was EVE, but it's lacking the activities that isn't focused around combat and supplying those that fight.

Edit - Population is good enough too, they have a guild that is dedicated to helping new players on Siege. They have a huge bug publish coming up soon and after that they're gonna revamp armor so plate and wood becomes useful once again. It's a good time to get back into it. Just revamped the site too.

  Spider3

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Joined: 10/17/12
Posts: 33

 
OP  10/17/12 10:36:14 AM#3

thanks for the suggestion, but after selling my 5y account (I still repent..but needed money) with a GM tamer, GM bard, GM mage GM crafter, GM t-hunter, I really can't think to start again all from scratch.

As explained PvP is not my main priority, though, call me more a trammie rares collector and dungeon adventurer ;)

  Jakdstripper

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Joined: 2/14/10
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10/17/12 10:52:39 AM#4
Originally posted by Spider3

thanks for the suggestion, but after selling my 5y account (I still repent..but needed money) with a GM tamer, GM bard, GM mage GM crafter, GM t-hunter, I really can't think to start again all from scratch.

As explained PvP is not my main priority, though, call me more a trammie rares collector and dungeon adventurer ;)

 if you are not looking for pvp, full loot, open world, and are mostly looking for great pve i'd say Rift does it best these days. sure it's no UO but you will be hard pressed to find a game that does fantasy pve better.

i really don't know of any games that focus on finding rare items....

as for comunity....the days of tight knit, respectful comunities are long gone. the more a game is popular the more ass hats "lolz-pwndnube-L2P-"  you will find. the only way to find decent comunities these days if to play obscure sandbox games that are way to slow/complicated for the general add crowd.

  Spider3

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Joined: 10/17/12
Posts: 33

 
OP  10/17/12 10:56:29 AM#5
After all this encouragament I'm thinking about buying a vet UO account and go back there until the world got something better to offers *grins*
  Apraxis

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Joined: 9/28/05
Posts: 1460

10/17/12 12:03:24 PM#6
Originally posted by Jakdstripper
Originally posted by Spider3

thanks for the suggestion, but after selling my 5y account (I still repent..but needed money) with a GM tamer, GM bard, GM mage GM crafter, GM t-hunter, I really can't think to start again all from scratch.

As explained PvP is not my main priority, though, call me more a trammie rares collector and dungeon adventurer ;)

 if you are not looking for pvp, full loot, open world, and are mostly looking for great pve i'd say Rift does it best these days. sure it's no UO but you will be hard pressed to find a game that does fantasy pve better.

i really don't know of any games that focus on finding rare items....

as for comunity....the days of tight knit, respectful comunities are long gone. the more a game is popular the more ass hats "lolz-pwndnube-L2P-"  you will find. the only way to find decent comunities these days if to play obscure sandbox games that are way to slow/complicated for the general add crowd.

Even if you are not looking to PvP, you cant compare Rift or any other MMORPG outthere with UO. Because it is about the activities beside combat, the social live in that game, and the feeling as it would be a living world with it houses and shops all over the place. And withit in old UO with PvP, even if you didnt pvped at all, it gave them all extra meaning and all that. The only one would be SWG, and that one is already dead, too.

To OP.. yeap.. maybe wait for ArcheAge and try that out.. even if i am not that sure if it really catch the feeling of UO, but at least it could be close enough with a new world, this time in 3D and a few new features.

All other games, which could be catch the atmosphere from UO are either in very early development(maybe World of Darkness or Pathfinder Online) or totally underfunded and very indy, so you cant bet that they even will release.

 

  Dreamo84

Defender of Worlds

Joined: 5/20/04
Posts: 2915

I actually still like MMORPGs

10/17/12 12:21:52 PM#7
Mortal Online! lol...I can't stop laughing.

  ShakyMo

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Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

10/17/12 12:30:11 PM#8
Eve or perpetuum

Darkfall might be closer in spirit to uo, but you will get pvped in darkfall.

Eve & perpetuum its possible to mostly avoid pvp (bar the odd suicider) and work on your industrial skills, if you so choose.
  Theocritus

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Joined: 7/15/08
Posts: 3613

10/17/12 2:47:27 PM#9
Originally posted by Spider3

thanks for the suggestion, but after selling my 5y account (I still repent..but needed money) with a GM tamer, GM bard, GM mage GM crafter, GM t-hunter, I really can't think to start again all from scratch.

As explained PvP is not my main priority, though, call me more a trammie rares collector and dungeon adventurer ;)

       ITs been a long time since I played it but the game I remember being most like it was called Ashen Empire...Its pretty much PVE focused and has a good skill/crafting system like UO iirc......

  ShakyMo

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Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

10/17/12 2:51:34 PM#10
Oh wakfu too.

If you don't mind turn based combat and its weird French dudes on acid setting.
  fenistil

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Joined: 9/22/11
Posts: 3016

10/17/12 4:18:51 PM#11
No there is no valid alternative imho.
  Quirhid

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Joined: 1/28/05
Posts: 5515

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10/17/12 4:31:57 PM#12
Originally posted by fenistil
No there is no valid alternative imho.


I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been -Wayne Gretzky

  OG_Zorvan

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Joined: 8/31/12
Posts: 646

10/17/12 4:35:43 PM#13
Sadly, as much as I hate to say it, RuneScape is probablly closest to UO in gameplay if you can stand the graphics and the 10 year old filled "community".

EA CEO John Riccitiello's on future microtransactions: "When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time...We're not gouging, but we're charging."

  Spider3

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Joined: 10/17/12
Posts: 33

 
OP  10/18/12 12:46:45 PM#14

I ended up buying a vet UO account with legendary chars I used to have before leaving, and I'm starting again to enjoy UO, finding a LOT of new stuff, items, monsters, lands! Still a lot of people around, and a lot of social life inside!

Those who said there is no valid alternatives were right ^^

Let's hope Archeage will bring new flavours for the future..in the meantime, I know how to invest my time *grins*

 

  Axxar

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Joined: 12/09/08
Posts: 1983

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10/18/12 12:55:11 PM#15

Mists of Pandaria is basically Ultima Online redone.

 

Okay now I need a surgeon to glue my face back together.

Currently playing: Divinity: Original Sin, FTL, Hearthstone and Skyrim.
Eagerly anticipating: Camelot Unchained, Elite: Dangerous, Legend of Grimrock 2 and Star Citizen.

  apb2011

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Joined: 2/26/11
Posts: 77

10/18/12 12:57:59 PM#16
try Link Realms
  csthao

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Posts: 1097

10/18/12 12:58:07 PM#17
Can always try out Vanguard, it has a mix of sand box and themepark. You can say a UO / EQ hybrid.
  GolbezTheLion

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Joined: 9/27/12
Posts: 250

10/31/12 10:29:11 PM#18
Originally posted by Jakdstripper

 if you are not looking for pvp, full loot, open world, and are mostly looking for great pve i'd say Rift does it best these days. sure it's no UO but you will be hard pressed to find a game that does fantasy pve better.

I have to disagree, there are quite a few games with better PvE than RIFT.

I'm not saying RIFT isn't a great game, because I think it is and that Trion is an amazing studio, but I always found the PvE content to be rather lackluster, rifting being the exception. I really like participating in the rifts themselves.

i really don't know of any games that focus on finding rare items....

The entire Diablo franchise is a good start.

as for comunity....the days of tight knit, respectful comunities are long gone. the more a game is popular the more ass hats "lolz-pwndnube-L2P-"  you will find. the only way to find decent comunities these days if to play obscure sandbox games that are way to slow/complicated for the general add crowd.

What?

Are you familar with the saying "you make your own luck"? The same applies to communities in online gaming. I've never had a problem finding a solid community in ANY mmorpg released over the course of the last decade.

Yes, you will always find the scum of the earth type individuals who's sole purpose is to make your gaming experience as unpleasant as possible, that is simply unavoidable when anonymity is involved. That having been said, those types are a minority, not a majority, and good communities exist (and prosper) in every mmorpg currently available.

 

  Ortwig

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Joined: 4/20/12
Posts: 1047

10/31/12 10:30:49 PM#19
Have heard good things about Vanguard as well...
  Vannor

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Joined: 8/11/03
Posts: 2995

10/31/12 10:49:16 PM#20
Originally posted by Spider3

Hi gamerZ,

after many years of offline rpg playing, I decided to kill  my social life jumping again in some online rpg. I got pretty fast very addicted..but you know how it works isnt? ^^

I played ultima online for over 5 years and had amazing times! I never was a big PVPer but I loved to PvM, guild, and escpecially the champion spawn, the doom gauntled, the artifact, the time spent to increase your skills and finally being able to tame a dragon, the social life around britain bank, the player runned vendors, the houses to visit across the world.

I made a big selection between games, checking carefully the Game List on this site, and at the end I choosed to start playing Rift. (The alternative was Archage Online, but it's still quiet far from release)

The graphic is amazing, the system complex and satisfying, a lot of skills that reminds my of UO, and the battle system, especially on rifts, is also great. The world is so huge, and soon with the new expansion will be the biggest fantasy world of internet ;) I tought..wow,  I've found the perfect game..but after a few weeks playing, I start missing something.

The social part is ok, but not so much like I remembered. A cold Acution House, no player spamming around selling stuff, or asking to join for a dungeon adventure or else.

In UO I loved the collect rarities (spawn only every week, or month, or year, and some were also UNIQUE, one single item in the whole world!), dirty expensive artifacts, and veteran rewards. In Rift I can't find any of this - the list of RARE items are more than 400, and they spawn constantly. I would not call them "rares"...and I've seen no evidence of UNIQUE items..or Am i Wrong?

I think you got what I am looking for..a mmorpg with a nice social interaction, with true rewards or rares/unique items to hunt, seek, buy and , if possible, with non-instanced housing system (this is asking much...Archage will be agian the answer).

I've seen RaiderZ it's coming out soon, and could possibly be a valid alternative. Anyway I'm not looking for a brand new mmorpg with extreme good graphic, also something released in the past years is ok.

Thanks a lot for reading and your suggestions ;)

 

When you hit level 50 in rift the social side changed from what i saw. Dunno if you are already level 50? But when you get access to the level 50 chat channel there is a lot of people trying to form groups for dungeons and stuff. Quite a lot of raid groups being formed in chat as well. There is a lot more endgame item trading seen in the chat too, not spamming trade like it was in AC, EQ and UO.. but more 1 on 1 trading than you will see 1-49.

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