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  StonesDK

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10/17/12 4:22:36 AM#241
Originally posted by Hrimnir
Originally posted by Starpower

I'm sorry I'm not that irrational

 

Hating something because a certain group of people likes it, is just that. Irrational not to mention stupid

So it would be irrational to hate bigotry because you witnessed a bunch of KKK members being bigots?  explain to me how thats irrational, and stupid, as you say.

That has to be the worst analogy I have ever seen on these boards. I don't even want to know how you came to the conclusion those two things were comparable

  gordiflu

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10/17/12 4:28:50 AM#242
Originally posted by Starpower
Originally posted by Hrimnir
Originally posted by Starpower

I'm sorry I'm not that irrational

 

Hating something because a certain group of people likes it, is just that. Irrational not to mention stupid

So it would be irrational to hate bigotry because you witnessed a bunch of KKK members being bigots?  explain to me how thats irrational, and stupid, as you say.

That has to be the worst analogy I have ever seen on these boards. I don't even want to know how you came to the conclusion those two things were comparable

However, hating it becouse those who love it hate those who don't seems quite natural to me.

  StonesDK

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10/17/12 4:35:37 AM#243
Originally posted by gordiflu
Originally posted by Starpower
Originally posted by Hrimnir
Originally posted by Starpower

I'm sorry I'm not that irrational

 

Hating something because a certain group of people likes it, is just that. Irrational not to mention stupid

So it would be irrational to hate bigotry because you witnessed a bunch of KKK members being bigots?  explain to me how thats irrational, and stupid, as you say.

That has to be the worst analogy I have ever seen on these boards. I don't even want to know how you came to the conclusion those two things were comparable

However, hating it becouse those who love it hate those who don't seems quite natural to me.

Of course. You are irrational but don't worry you are in good company. This happens all the time specially in the music industry. Bands are frequently hated because of the fans who listen to them.

  kaiser3282

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10/17/12 4:47:05 AM#244
Originally posted by Calerxes
Originally posted by kaiser3282
Originally posted by JackFrosty

GW2 fans by far.

If you criticize anything they start yelling bloody murder in blind zealot defense.

Sorry, but I find this hilarious coming from someone who out of 27 posts, 20 of them are trolling GW2 threads. You spend the majority of your time on this forum doing nothing but hating on GW2. Talk about zealotry.

Meanwhile, you praise Rift and Trion with complete adoration and fanboism, repeating the same mantra in your posts about them:

"RIFT is the best MMO I have ever played, and I've tried a lot of them. TRION pushes out content so fast you literally never have time to be bored, and it's QUALITY content. Absolutely amazing stuff.

The amount of stuff they are bringing out in their expansion is more content then most games LAUNCH with. They are tripling the world size just for starters.

Absolutely amazing game and the first 20 levels are free so why not give it a shot :)  The only thing you'll miss is Panda's or wandering around maps being bored collecting pies for Centaurs."

and

"RIFT is the first mmo where they release content so fast (and good) that I literally haven't had time to get bored in a year straight of playing :)

This xpac looks like the next year of my life is another write-off :D lol"

 

Again proving why GW2 fans are top of the insufferable list.

Explain something. Where exactly in anything that I posted did I defend, praise, or otherwise "fan" GW2 in any form?

Clearly the entire concept of hypocrisy, which is what I posted about, is over your head.

Your own post is yet another prime example. Anyone who so much as mentions the name GW2 and in the same post doesnt  talk about how bad it is, is automatically labeled a "fan". 

Did I have fun playing it for awhile? Yes

Does it have its faults, and have I discussed them and pointed them out as well? Yes

Do I play it anymore? No

Fan - noun - An ardent devotee; an enthusiast.

  gordiflu

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10/17/12 4:47:21 AM#245
Originally posted by Starpower
Originally posted by gordiflu
Originally posted by Starpower
Originally posted by Hrimnir
Originally posted by Starpower

I'm sorry I'm not that irrational

 

Hating something because a certain group of people likes it, is just that. Irrational not to mention stupid

So it would be irrational to hate bigotry because you witnessed a bunch of KKK members being bigots?  explain to me how thats irrational, and stupid, as you say.

That has to be the worst analogy I have ever seen on these boards. I don't even want to know how you came to the conclusion those two things were comparable

However, hating it becouse those who love it hate those who don't seems quite natural to me.

Of course. You are irrational but don't worry you are in good company. This happens all the time specially in the music industry. Bands are frequently hated because of the fans who listen to them.

I don't think I am beeing irrational. The natural reactions to hate are fighting back or evading it.

Let's check this scenario:

 

- Game X is going to be a revolution becouse etc etc etc.

- I don't think so, becouse this and that.

- Then you are just a troll and blah blah blah.

 

What rational reaction do you expect now? Who started beeing irational?

 

 

  TheHavok

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10/17/12 4:56:01 AM#246
Originally posted by ZigZags
Originally posted by Jemcrystal
Originally posted by Zylaxx
While I am not a fan of the average WoW fan they are still a step above the MMORPG.com forums posting crowd.  IF this site was an MMO or better yet if everyone on these forums played the same MMO, it would easily have the worst community of all time, I would even say it would make Barrens Chat look like Sunday Church.

 

Disagree.  These forums have a lot of intelligent verbatim and respectable posters.  I have left a lot of mmo's behind where the forum community was poorly moderated and filled to capacity with trolls, trolls, trolls, trolls, trolls, trolls, and more trolls.    

So it's not really the fans but the ....

...that ruin games for me.

I'm happy the fans are excited for the game they're playing.  

That's sucha  cop out excuse. Trolls don't ruin games. Bad games ruin games. You and others need to hold game companies accountable for their fail projects and stop blindly throwing your money behind them. Its suckers like you and 80% of the others on this site that hype up games they've never tried from companies with questionable histories. You people are the reason bad games are created. Because they can make a pile of crap, put some window dressing on it and you'll buy it and help them profit so they can move on to the next pile of dung they're going to sell you and your friends. Wake up dude.

Spot on with your response zig.  However, one thing i've learned over the years is that not everybody places value on the same qualities.  In this instance, some people may achieve enjoyment and happiness from inferior, flawed games, but if they have that nice, niche group of friends, they will turn a blind eye.

I see it time and time again amongst the players in the free to play mmorpgs.  They spend hundreds and sometimes thousands of dollars a month on these terrible, 3rd rate korean grinders - but they enjoy every minute of it because they have become a staple in their online community.

But yes, I will say, trolls do not ruin a game.

  cowhead

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Posts: 56

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10/17/12 5:03:07 AM#247
The MMO I hate the worse? Why, MMORPG.com, of course. Is there any other choice? :P

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  TheHavok

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10/17/12 5:03:20 AM#248
Originally posted by gordiflu
Originally posted by Neherun

Typically the carebears of any MMORPG, who fail to see any other sides to MMORPG gaming, and everything else than their safe PvE questing experience is bad.

 

As a "PVE" carebear, I have to say this finally.

I am sick of all those "PVP hardcore" macho macho men, and I ll tell you why.

 

PVP in MMOs require virtually no skill whatsoever. 99% of the times the outcome of a fight is decided by these two factors:

1) Bigger zerg wins.

2) Higher gearscore wins.

 

And this is it, period. The more time invested grinding the better your gear the higher your chance to win. This has NOTHING to do with skill. Talk about skill in games like Starcraft, CoD or similar, but MMOs? Cut that crap, really.

I know many PVE players that are way way way more hardcore than all those PVP wannabes asking for full loot open world PVP so they can gank lowbyes and sneak out whenever a fair match comes up.

Jaded.  To the max.

  Icewhite

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10/17/12 5:19:52 AM#249
Originally posted by TheHavok

Jaded.  To the max.

The only place to chest-thump the inherent superiority of your Favorite Brand™ over the clear inferiority of the other guy's is on a forum. :shrug:

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  User Deleted
10/17/12 5:33:51 AM#250
Originally posted by gordiflu

PVP in MMOs require virtually no skill whatsoever. 99% of the times the outcome of a fight is decided by these two factors:

1) Bigger zerg wins.

2) Higher gearscore wins.

People who say that usually lose a lot and blame it on anything BUT their inability to play (IT WAS LAG LOL - boy do I miss good old CS).

When I lose, I know exactly why and even if my opponent had better skill, I know if I did a couple of things different I'd still win.

Ganking higher level players (yes, it can be done) shines a blinding light of truth on this dark  LIE about pvp.

  AutemOx

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10/17/12 5:57:34 AM#251

Wow has my least fav playerbase.

SWG probably has the best, it was really the only game I've played where I built something akin to real friendship.

Some playerbases are just sad/pathetic...  Especially pre-release.  I feel bad for all those games that have an excited oblivious fanbase and we have to watch as the game fades into vapourware or is released to a lack-luster excitement and withers away until shutdown.  I have seen that happen to so many MMOs now and the fanbase doesn't seem to get a clue.  My only guess is that they are a fresh new batch of people each time.  It would be disturbing if there were a lot of repeat customers being disappointed.

Well...  I have fawned over games to see them cancelled or turn to shit myself a few times now, I suppose.  I was a huge fan of WoW and PotBS until the games were actually released and I realized they sucked.  I was super excited about Dragon Empires and didn't have a clue that programming for it had barely even started when it was cancelled.  I would bring up SWG here but I feel like I got to thoroughly enjoy it before it was ruined, so I won't complain.  :D

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  Yukmarc

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10/17/12 6:09:22 AM#252
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Originally posted by Lienhart

Mine: Dark Age of Camelot

I tried playing it years back (before WoW came out). Hated it for it's inferior graphics and lack of direction.

But... DAoC's graphics were top of the industry back then. I.. don't understand.

 

Anyway, my answer is WoW. Simply because they assume that WoW is the only thing that ever existed and the only thing that should exist. They also like to pretend that WoW was hardcore and not a casual game.

OP probably played the DAOC "Free trial" which let people play the origional game only back then.. with the origional graphics, not the nice updated graphics that we enjoyed. I believe that DAOC had updated the graphics twice by the time WoW came out.

 

Anyways, it's WoW for me too. Mainly because you couldn't ask a simple question in chat without hearing things like "RTFM!" and such nonsense like that. Nobody really willing to help.

 

  loulaki

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10/17/12 7:36:35 AM#253
by far WoWs cause they go at other games and demand them to become like WoW ...

  Torgrim

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10/17/12 7:41:00 AM#254
SWTOR fans are the worst imo they all are like Bagdad Bob.

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  gobla

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C'est la vie.

10/17/12 8:16:35 AM#255

I'm a bit surprised about all the hate for EvE.

Don't get me wrong, EvE does indeed have a horrible community of bittervets, griefers, scammers, gankers etc. (although I'd be quick to remind anyone that there's also good people, perhaps even more so than any other MMO) but, unlike other games, that community is an integrated part of the game. EvE is a dark and ruthless universe, it's no idealised fairytale world like so many other MMOs feature. And that terrible part of the community brings that world uniquely alive. Unlike so many other games these people actually add something to the EvE universe.

As for which community is the worst? I've been away from the site for almost a year but back then it was, in my opinion, the overzealous part of the GW2 community. From reading this thread it seems like it still is.

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  gordiflu

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10/17/12 8:33:23 AM#256
Originally posted by nsignific
Originally posted by gordiflu

PVP in MMOs require virtually no skill whatsoever. 99% of the times the outcome of a fight is decided by these two factors:

1) Bigger zerg wins.

2) Higher gearscore wins.

People who say that usually lose a lot and blame it on anything BUT their inability to play (IT WAS LAG LOL - boy do I miss good old CS).

When I lose, I know exactly why and even if my opponent had better skill, I know if I did a couple of things different I'd still win.

Ganking higher level players (yes, it can be done) shines a blinding light of truth on this dark  LIE about pvp.

You got it wrong. I do lots of PVP. I actually do way more PVP than PVE. And I actually tend to do well. I just don't PVP in MMOs becouse it has to do a lot more with FOTMS builds, gear and zerging than actual skill.

You are entitled to your opinion, of course, but then I could also say that those who PVP in MMOs are the players who lack skill to do so in actual PVP games and make up for such lack of skill with grind endurance.

  just1opinion

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10/17/12 11:26:11 AM#257

 

RIFT, no question.  Hate the game and loathe the fans.  (I don't hate them on a personal level...I don't even know them personally. I simply hate their arrogant devotion to a game that, in my opinion, is utter rubbish.)

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  Deivos

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10/17/12 2:50:38 PM#258
Originally posted by Calerxes
Originally posted by Deivos

It does somewhat by intent or not.

Any parody of another can be seen as something done at the expense of the originating party. Even if I agree with you that it's humorous, it's considered mocking to parody such a person in what essentially amounts to public.

Saying so in that manner makes you derisive, not necessarily a fanatic or zealous. Just makes you appear to have less social control than you might actually have.

 

Granted this is the internet and most people seem to take that to mean they don't need any social conduct.

So you don't find any qualities in Satire? the people that satirise are just as bad as the people they parody? 

Not often, no. While I don't take everything people say literally, I tend to act more literal myself. 

Like I said, It's acknowledging the case that it's comedy at the expense of another to do such a thing.

It's not a matter of if I like it or not. It's the context in which it is given and the target audience to whom it is given.

 

When done in public to an indirect audience, you don't know who will be on the receiving end of the joke or how they will perceive your behavior. It can range anywhere from passive to downright racist and insulting if you don't consider your words.

 

Generally satire and parody is better put to use in a controlled context where you can know, or at least trust, that people are generally of a similar and not conflicting mind about the subject given. Or at the very least you know they can take a joke.

 

An open forum that's commonly populated by people flaming one another about which game is better? Probably not the right place to parody one group or another, because it's more than likely someone won't take it as just a joke.

As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero. - Vaarsuvius

  sumfool

Novice Member

Joined: 3/11/09
Posts: 13

"you dirty rat"

10/18/12 1:35:57 AM#259

i hate microvolts just because its full of little geeks that cry everytime they die 

good game IF it wasent full of fk tards 

worst lil bizznatches i seen on the web ever period in that game .

  JackFrosty

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/05/12
Posts: 60

10/18/12 1:44:35 AM#260
Definately GW2 fans hands down.

When I wake up, the real nightmare begins

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