For anyone saying mmo's haven't changed, you are out of your mind.

Anyone who has played Everquest 2 from launch, I'm sure even WoW from launch, Everquest 1 etc knows that MMOs have changed, and for the worse. I haven't lost interest in MMOs, they are still my most desired gaming genre, but I have lost [b]faith[/b] in the new ones coming out.

I played Everquest 2 pretty much religiously since launch. I bought every expansion, was server first Shadowknight when the pvp servers first opened on Venekor, and I put a lot of time and effort into the community, the game, etc. I am a competitive person by nature, and do not like to be second best, so with mmo's it's perfect!

When Everquest 2 and WoW first came out, this was when MMOs were being released with massive amounts of content, interesting quest lines etc. I personally, have never had more fun than when I was doing my Mythical in Veeshan's Peak. Massive quest line, ending in a huge raid zone, with a world wide message saying that So and So has gotten "inset item name here" mythical. But this is what I think these new games are lacking, they are lacking the interesting content, and indepth quest lines.

I don't know if it's lack of funding for them now, or lack of time, but if you are putting out an mmo and you don't have any open world pvp, or any top end raid zones, but you also don't have interesting quest lines, vast class choices and specifications, you are going to fail.

Maybe it's because I am late and I am not making any sense, but there has not been an mmo to come out that has seemed to have that umph that they used to. Or maybe I am just used to Everquest 2, which has massive content, and great raid zones so it's hard to give these new mmos trying to break on to the scene a real chance.

I have big hopes for the new Final Fantasy 14, and I hope Everquest 3 ends up being a good game even after all the budget cuts. One can dream.

Yes eight years ago MMO’s were a niche game. But they were not a Reliant Robin, they were a JCB construction vehicle among all the other cars. Now they are just another car; fast, nice paint work, simple car steering.

Making a niche the same as the rest is not progress, it is saying there is only one way to play. Our way, the way of single player console games.

There's another reason for this - MMOs have become far too simplistic and streamlined (and boring as a result).

When you first played these games 10 years ago, there were complex stats, skills, challenging content, the sense that you were doing something few had embarked on before, all of this depth has been sacrificed in order to appeal to a massive audience. 

Now this has certainly resulted in many more players trying out MMOs, but the simplification still continues with every new release. As a result, more and more players become turned off - they have mastered the current MMO dynamics (which are very similar from game to game), they are ready for something more challenging, NOT more simplified.

Take a look at how simplified GW2 combat is compared to it's predecessors. GW2 is a game with an amazingly well-detailed world, but it's going to suffer because it's too streamlined. People are sick of the dumbing-down. Put out a complex and challenging MMO and I guarantee you the genre will come roaring back. We are starved for depth and ready to take on new greater challenges, instead we get more and more simplified crap.

I havent played a single mmorpg longer than 3 months since Burning crusade came out in 2007. Tera looked good but than Frogstar killed it. I hope AA can pull of something otherwise im gonna buy random x mmorpg play it 1 month and quit it cause it sucks.

Back in the days i played DaoC and Lineage 2 for years nowdays u cant find a single mmorpg that is worth my time.

I rather play Dota, and Fighters much more fun than mmorpgs nowdays.