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  Elikal

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OP  10/14/12 10:14:25 AM#1

I know, there are the power zerger who just want to KILL STUFF in MMOs, and that's fine with me. But ever since I spent years in building my house in EQ2, I missed that, and missed being connected to the world in MMOs. I know how after EQ2 and SWG (my big SWG manor in our very alife player city... *sob*) I just could not play WOW at all; and my personal reason was, that I felt like a homeless. In EQ2 and SWG I *always* went back into my home after a longer play session or finishing an area. It was a sort of ritual. I logged out "at home". I gradually got larger homes, and I placed all my trophies in it. In SWG had even had a big ingame marriage with another player, we built our manor together in our guild's player city. Sigh.

Now I have "played" the new DLC for Skyrim, Hearthfire. Now by itself there wasn't much to do, tho I felt it was worth the 4,99 Euro. I built a wonderful, large house overviewing a lake, I invited my husband into it, hired a steward, a bard and worked very hard to create all the furniture and shrines and gather all my many trophies and place them there. Finally I did what I had wished to do for a LONG time, I got two kids out of this horrible Orphanage and had two kids, which I pampered with toys and gifts and sweets. Oh and I managed to get two dogs as well. It didn't "do" anything, but it sorta filled me with glee, and made the game round.

 

I really miss that in MMOs. When I ran through Guild Wars II, often I wished I had a house for trophies, a NPC hubby and could adopt some of these super cute kids, and I would always bring them some exciting stuff and tales from my adventures.

But I guess that's just silly me... :I

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  Jakdstripper

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10/14/12 10:18:40 AM#2
Originally posted by Elikal

Now I have "played" the new DLC for Skyrim, Hearthfire. Now by itself there wasn't much to do, tho I felt it was worth the 4,99 Euro. I built a wonderful, large house overviewing a lake, I invited my husband into it, hired a steward, a bard and worked very hard to create all the furniture and shrines and gather all my many trophies and place them there. Finally I did what I had wished to do for a LONG time, I got two kids out of this horrible Orphanage and had two kids, which I pampered with toys and gifts and sweets. Oh and I managed to get two dogs as well. It didn't "do" anything, but it sorta filled me with glee, and made the game round.

 

 

 wtf?....you play mmos to be a house wife?....:S....

  Sephros

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10/14/12 10:21:26 AM#3
Seems some what on the whacked side to me as well. But to each their own i guess...

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  fiftyplusgeek

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10/14/12 10:22:49 AM#4

Yeah, that small expansion to Skyrim really made a big difference in the game for me. I loved building a house tailored to what my character needs.

I have taken a short break since the Morrowind Overhaul 3.0 is finally complete and I'm so happy exploring in Morrowind once again.

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  GwapoJosh

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10/14/12 10:24:08 AM#5
Originally posted by Jakdstripper
Originally posted by Elikal

Now I have "played" the new DLC for Skyrim, Hearthfire. Now by itself there wasn't much to do, tho I felt it was worth the 4,99 Euro. I built a wonderful, large house overviewing a lake, I invited my husband into it, hired a steward, a bard and worked very hard to create all the furniture and shrines and gather all my many trophies and place them there. Finally I did what I had wished to do for a LONG time, I got two kids out of this horrible Orphanage and had two kids, which I pampered with toys and gifts and sweets. Oh and I managed to get two dogs as well. It didn't "do" anything, but it sorta filled me with glee, and made the game round.

 

 

 wtf?....you play mmos to be a house wife?....:S....

Funny stuff lol.. Made me spit out my drink :))

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  jdnewell

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10/14/12 10:24:29 AM#6

I think the point he was making is that many many people enjoy housing in MMO's. And maybe the Devs should work to add that feature.

At least that is what I got out of it.

  AdamTM

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10/14/12 10:27:28 AM#7

Get a dollhouse.

Then again getting a dollhouse for under 5$ is kind of impossible nowadays, even under 55$ if you include your Skyrim purchase.

  Elikal

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OP  10/14/12 10:28:22 AM#8
Originally posted by Jakdstripper
Originally posted by Elikal

Now I have "played" the new DLC for Skyrim, Hearthfire. Now by itself there wasn't much to do, tho I felt it was worth the 4,99 Euro. I built a wonderful, large house overviewing a lake, I invited my husband into it, hired a steward, a bard and worked very hard to create all the furniture and shrines and gather all my many trophies and place them there. Finally I did what I had wished to do for a LONG time, I got two kids out of this horrible Orphanage and had two kids, which I pampered with toys and gifts and sweets. Oh and I managed to get two dogs as well. It didn't "do" anything, but it sorta filled me with glee, and made the game round.

 

 

 wtf?....you play mmos to be a house wife?....:S....

To be totally blunt, yes. Partially. I am a single most of my life without family and kids and never will, so pretenting that in a game has the appeal of pseudo-life. It roots me in a virtual game world. Call me a fool, but it always "aww's" me. ^^()

 

I mean, isn't it why all the nerds play hero? To pretend what we do not have in the dull everyday life? ;)

 

Originally posted by AdamTM

Get a dollhouse.

Then again getting a dollhouse for under 5$ is kind of impossible nowadays, even under 55$ if you include your Skyrim purchase.

I don't want a dollhouse by itself! Ok, having played Sims 2 for years, maybe I do. But that's not the point. The point is, I want my MMO heroes to have a home. Not just a house, a home, ideally in a player city, maybe with NPC family option. Something to make me feel connected to the game world.

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  Amaranthar

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10/14/12 11:18:00 AM#9

Yes I want a home. I also like to be able to display things that are symbols of past accomplishments. And I love the idea of work shops in your abode as well, or merchants shops.

I think homes should be centers of what you do. And being able to work together as a guild to build something used as a headquarters and meeting hall, asset allocation place, etc., would be a big thing in helping to keep players too, I would think.

Expand that to allow players to build villages, expanding to cities, and add the political controls and worldly reasons for players to have an advantage in doing so (defense walls to ward off MOBs, safety, etc.).

Then add yet more, strategy game style constuctions to add benefits to your homes, guildhouses, villages, and cities.

Then add yet more, resource centers linked somehow to you homes, guildhouses, villages, or cities.

Player houses are just the beginning.

Once upon a time....

  StonesDK

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10/14/12 11:20:14 AM#10
I never cared about housing. They serve no function other than as a trophy. If you actually were dependant on it for shelter and it was interactive beyond fluff then that would be another matter
  Loktofeit

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10/14/12 11:27:40 AM#11
Originally posted by Elikal
Originally posted by Jakdstripper
Originally posted by Elikal

Now I have "played" the new DLC for Skyrim, Hearthfire. Now by itself there wasn't much to do, tho I felt it was worth the 4,99 Euro. I built a wonderful, large house overviewing a lake, I invited my husband into it, hired a steward, a bard and worked very hard to create all the furniture and shrines and gather all my many trophies and place them there. Finally I did what I had wished to do for a LONG time, I got two kids out of this horrible Orphanage and had two kids, which I pampered with toys and gifts and sweets. Oh and I managed to get two dogs as well. It didn't "do" anything, but it sorta filled me with glee, and made the game round.

 wtf?....you play mmos to be a house wife?....:S....

To be totally blunt, yes. Partially. I am a single most of my life without family and kids and never will, so pretenting that in a game has the appeal of pseudo-life. It roots me in a virtual game world. Call me a fool, but it always "aww's" me. ^^()

I mean, isn't it why all the nerds play hero? To pretend what we do not have in the dull everyday life? ;)

That was such a cool and sincere response that I had to double check I was still on the MMORPG.com forums.

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  Draron

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10/14/12 11:32:15 AM#12
I agree with the OP. Housing is content IMO, at least it was in the games that I've played that done it right. I'd spend a good few hours every so often customizing and decorating my house in UO and EQ2. 
  fiftyplusgeek

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10/14/12 11:32:58 AM#13
Originally posted by Starpower
I never cared about housing. They serve no function other than as a trophy. If you actually were dependant on it for shelter and it was interactive beyond fluff then that would be another matter

Is it in Skyrim. You're home can be attacked. The land plots are placed just close anough to hostile mobs that there is a chance of conflict.

I was attacked while building my home....twice.

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  Amaranthar

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10/14/12 11:38:06 AM#14
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Elikal
Originally posted by Jakdstripper
Originally posted by Elikal

Now I have "played" the new DLC for Skyrim, Hearthfire. Now by itself there wasn't much to do, tho I felt it was worth the 4,99 Euro. I built a wonderful, large house overviewing a lake, I invited my husband into it, hired a steward, a bard and worked very hard to create all the furniture and shrines and gather all my many trophies and place them there. Finally I did what I had wished to do for a LONG time, I got two kids out of this horrible Orphanage and had two kids, which I pampered with toys and gifts and sweets. Oh and I managed to get two dogs as well. It didn't "do" anything, but it sorta filled me with glee, and made the game round.

 wtf?....you play mmos to be a house wife?....:S....

To be totally blunt, yes. Partially. I am a single most of my life without family and kids and never will, so pretenting that in a game has the appeal of pseudo-life. It roots me in a virtual game world. Call me a fool, but it always "aww's" me. ^^()

I mean, isn't it why all the nerds play hero? To pretend what we do not have in the dull everyday life? ;)

That was such a cool and sincere response that I had to double check I was still on the MMORPG.com forums.

Yep. But it's also very much relevant to MMORPGs. I believe most of us are acting out some form of what we wish could be in RL, one way or another.

For me, it's the adventure. I don't want to risk my life in RL for great adventure with low chances of meaningful success. But it's fun in an artificial world where if I die I just reboot.

Once upon a time....

  gieger808

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10/14/12 11:43:13 AM#15

I see what you are saying. And I agree.

You crave a more virtual/sim experience in addition to the standard mmorpg fair that is popular right now.

 

Isn't it funny how mmorpg's have developed? From more depth and freedom to less. You would think it would be  the reverse.

  fiftyplusgeek

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10/14/12 11:45:04 AM#16
Originally posted by gieger808

 

Isn't it funny how mmorpg's have developed? From more depth and freedom to less. You would think it would be  the reverse.

Player demand is a powerful thing.

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  cukimunga

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10/14/12 11:52:47 AM#17
Originally posted by Jakdstripper
Originally posted by Elikal

Now I have "played" the new DLC for Skyrim, Hearthfire. Now by itself there wasn't much to do, tho I felt it was worth the 4,99 Euro. I built a wonderful, large house overviewing a lake, I invited my husband into it, hired a steward, a bard and worked very hard to create all the furniture and shrines and gather all my many trophies and place them there. Finally I did what I had wished to do for a LONG time, I got two kids out of this horrible Orphanage and had two kids, which I pampered with toys and gifts and sweets. Oh and I managed to get two dogs as well. It didn't "do" anything, but it sorta filled me with glee, and made the game round.

 

 

 wtf?....you play mmos to be a house wife?....:S....

Well it is a Role Playing Game, why not?

 

  gieger808

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10/14/12 11:59:16 AM#18
Originally posted by grimgryphon
Originally posted by gieger808

 

Isn't it funny how mmorpg's have developed? From more depth and freedom to less. You would think it would be  the reverse.

Player demand is a powerful thing.

I know right, welcome to the age of instant gratification gaming. sigh.

I weep for the future of mankind. And mmorpg gaming.

  Calerxes

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10/14/12 2:16:57 PM#19
Originally posted by gieger808
Originally posted by grimgryphon
Originally posted by gieger808

 

Isn't it funny how mmorpg's have developed? From more depth and freedom to less. You would think it would be  the reverse.

Player demand is a powerful thing.

I know right, welcome to the age of instant gratification gaming. sigh.

I weep for the future of mankind. And mmorpg gaming.

 

Even though I'm coming to the realisation that I don't want a Virtual World per se but I do want depth and freedom and MMO's have lost a lot of this over the years. And it seems to have come about from the mainstream coming in a demanding change that developers listened to as thats where the money is. So I understand the desire for Housing and non-combat content even if I don't want it myself as it adds to the depth of the game but the mainstream audience doesn't understand this and just says no feck off you big girls blouses, Housing is so GHEY!

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  Ozmodan

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10/14/12 2:17:29 PM#20
Originally posted by Jakdstripper
Originally posted by Elikal

Now I have "played" the new DLC for Skyrim, Hearthfire. Now by itself there wasn't much to do, tho I felt it was worth the 4,99 Euro. I built a wonderful, large house overviewing a lake, I invited my husband into it, hired a steward, a bard and worked very hard to create all the furniture and shrines and gather all my many trophies and place them there. Finally I did what I had wished to do for a LONG time, I got two kids out of this horrible Orphanage and had two kids, which I pampered with toys and gifts and sweets. Oh and I managed to get two dogs as well. It didn't "do" anything, but it sorta filled me with glee, and made the game round.

 

 

 wtf?....you play mmos to be a house wife?....:S....

Thanks for the laugh, the most clueless response I have seen in a while.  Nothing wrong with doing something other than constant combat.  Players that do, soon move on to the next killing field game.  Players like her, stick around a while.  She is the player the developers should be concentrating on, not the guy who kills everything in sight, gets bored with it and moves on to the next game.

Non instanced housing, which can't be found in any modern day MMO, is a real plus to people who play the whole game.

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