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  shingoukieh

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OP  10/14/12 11:48:10 AM#1
Been playing eve for years and why it only does small expansions??? Eve graphics are the same as before and all they do lately is spec ships or balance things. Basically making small subtlte changes. So every 6 months they do a small change. I would really like to see something huge and revolutionary added to eve. Ya know something that has hype like incarna was without the letdown
  MMOGamer71

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10/14/12 11:54:31 AM#2

Not sure why people are in the frame of mind that expansions have to be this huge groundbreaking "new" concept.

 

It's called an expansion for a reason.

  Jakdstripper

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10/14/12 11:55:53 AM#3
their expansion are also very cheap....err i mean free. stop complaining about free stuff.
  Rayshe

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10/14/12 11:59:10 AM#4
The expansions are small because your not paying for them.  Also if im not mistaken they are working on making your ships explorable. So afew small expansions is a good price for gaining a little bit more freedom of play.

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  killahh

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10/14/12 12:01:24 PM#5

it would be nice to have  a major expansion, but if you have been playing for years as you say, then you are an utter ned, as there is has been ongoing graphics and skin replacements going on  on an ongoing basis.

and as for changes sheeshe, theres nothing but changes here and there, as this is coming from a bittervet ( played since 3 days after launch)

i think personally the best way to get the game back on track is to eliminate the hoards of plex traders, period, in alot of ways EVE has gone from subscription based community to the buy to win crowd, and their particular mentalities since the introduction of buying plex.

couldnt carea  bit if you disagree or not, ive made and lost billions over the years, and have never bought 1 plex.

 

 

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  Torvaldr

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10/14/12 12:06:59 PM#6
Originally posted by Rayshe
The expansions are small because your not paying for them.  Also if im not mistaken they are working on making your ships explorable. So afew small expansions is a good price for gaining a little bit more freedom of play.

EVE is a subscription game.  What do you mean the players aren't paying for them?  What does that sub money go for then?  We know it's not just server maintenance and bandwidth fees because that was debunked a long time ago.  In addition to the subs there is the sale of their game cash to supplement the revenue stream.

So why doesn't ccp put out expansive expansions?

Curse you AquaScum!

  kaiser3282

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10/14/12 12:07:08 PM#7

1) They do more expansions on a more frequent basis than pretty much any other game

2) Theyre completely free, also unlike nearly any other game

3) They at least make some attempts to add actual new features / aspects to the game, even if they wind up not being very good. The standard expansion in most MMOs is equivalent to a new dungeon / zone that plays exactly the same as all the previous ones and doing something like moving skills around.

  kaiser3282

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10/14/12 12:10:09 PM#8
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Rayshe
The expansions are small because your not paying for them.  Also if im not mistaken they are working on making your ships explorable. So afew small expansions is a good price for gaining a little bit more freedom of play.

EVE is a subscription game.  What do you mean the players aren't paying for them?  What does that sub money go for then?  We know it's not just server maintenance and bandwidth fees because that was debunked a long time ago.  In addition to the subs there is the sale of their game cash to supplement the revenue stream.

So why doesn't ccp put out expansive expansions?

Many other games are also subscription games. Nearly every one of them also charges you an additional fee on top of the subscription to get the expansion. In comparsion to the standard, EVE expansions are free.

BTW,  do you think companies shoot to just cover maintenance and bandwidth fees? How do you think they pay their employees? Let me guess.... you have a job somewhere where they just pay rent and upkeep on a building but dont pay you.

  Hazelle

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10/14/12 3:27:54 PM#9

The recent changes they are making and have made improve the quality of life of the players subscribed to the game.

I'm interested in retrubution changes which were badly needed and the change that they are making towards PvE which will supposidely do away with fitting a ship for PvE specific content.

Those changes alone radically change the game as far as empire space goes.  Unfortunately CCPs plan is to herd players into null sec so this next expansion is a total waste of time, money, and resources.

  Kyleran

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10/14/12 3:37:03 PM#10

A large portion of their revenue is going to the creation of Dust514 and to a lessor extent WOD.

They stated some time ago they were going to stop adding half complete new functionality and spend more time cleaning up the content they've previously delivered.

Besides, what more are you really looking for?

 

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  Minsc

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10/14/12 10:25:57 PM#11
Originally posted by Kyleran

A large portion of their revenue is going to the creation of Dust514 and to a lessor extent WOD.

They stated some time ago they were going to stop adding half complete new functionality and spend more time cleaning up the content they've previously delivered.

Besides, what more are you really looking for?

 

 

From the sounds of it another 10 levels and a new raid like most other mmo do
  shingoukieh

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OP  10/14/12 10:39:59 PM#12
Eve is science fiction.. There are basically unlimited things u can add to the game. Why wait 6 months for ship balancing? I'm just saying I would like to see a groundbreaking expansion. One that will make u go ohh shyt I can't wait till this is released. So far I welcome the tweaks but my hype level ain't like a 10 more like a 4..their development team must be small.. Maybe I might understand the slow changes the game has made
  shingoukieh

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OP  10/14/12 10:49:00 PM#13
Also to comment to the guy above me most mmorpgs have a vast detailed world... Eve is nothing more than a ship that can go to different points on grid inside a zone... The background is basically wallpaper. Other expansions offer more zones and detailed interactive environments.. I mean the could at least update explosion animation. Eve is one of a kind and the unlimited progress in game makes it a never ending task so u never feel like u are complete.. For me that's a good thing
  Hazelle

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10/14/12 11:32:46 PM#14
Originally posted by shingoukieh
Eve is science fiction.. There are basically unlimited things u can add to the game. Why wait 6 months for ship balancing? I'm just saying I would like to see a groundbreaking expansion. One that will make u go ohh shyt I can't wait till this is released. So far I welcome the tweaks but my hype level ain't like a 10 more like a 4..their development team must be small.. Maybe I might understand the slow changes the game has made

In your head what would be a ground breaking expansion that adds value to the current player experience of ships in space?

  Robokapp

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10/14/12 11:37:01 PM#15
of course they're cheap. expansions are free.

  shingoukieh

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OP  10/15/12 12:37:15 AM#16
More planet interaction. Different planet types. Better Pve system. Dynamic event system. Different environments and structures. New soundtrack. Walk in stations. Better dynamic plexing. I pay for eve accounts when I play. I do most of way eve has to offer.. If I make 1.5 bil for the month if I get plex I'm left with little money to pvp in...puttin into perspective I die a few..so when I'm earning money I would like to somewhat enjoy that side too. If the things I mention ccp did I'm sure more players would play and the existing ones would enjoy it too..that's just what some things I thought of...I'm sure others might have even better ideas
  Malcanis

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10/15/12 8:46:34 AM#17
Originally posted by shingoukieh
Been playing eve for years and why it only does small expansions??? Eve graphics are the same as before and all they do lately is spec ships or balance things. Basically making small subtlte changes. So every 6 months they do a small change. I would really like to see something huge and revolutionary added to eve. Ya know something that has hype like incarna was without the letdown

So let's see, we have two alternatives.

Option 1:

Now we get A,B

6 months later we get C & D. Issues with A & B can be addressed, and C&D can be balanced after A & B have been playtested

12 months later we get E & F. Issues with C & D can be addressed, and E&F can be designed after  A, B, C & D have been playtested

18 months later we get G & H. Issues with E & F can be addressed, and G&H can be designed after after A, B, C, D, E &F have been playtested

24 months later we get I, J & K. Issues with G & H can be addressed, and I, J & K can be designed after after A, B, C, D, E, F, G & H have been playtested

 

Option 2:

We wait

We wait another 6 months

We wait for 12 months

We wait for 18 months

After 2 years we get A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J & K all in one go. None of the new features have been designed with the benefit of having playtested other features. Plus we get charged $39.99 for the expansion because hey.

Why is option 2 better?

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  kaiser3282

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10/15/12 8:59:08 AM#18
Originally posted by Malcanis
Originally posted by shingoukieh
Been playing eve for years and why it only does small expansions??? Eve graphics are the same as before and all they do lately is spec ships or balance things. Basically making small subtlte changes. So every 6 months they do a small change. I would really like to see something huge and revolutionary added to eve. Ya know something that has hype like incarna was without the letdown

So let's see, we have two alternatives.

Option 1:

Now we get A,B

6 months later we get C & D. Issues with A & B can be addressed, and C&D can be balanced after A & B have been playtested

12 months later we get E & F. Issues with C & D can be addressed, and E&F can be designed after  A, B, C & D have been playtested

18 months later we get G & H. Issues with E & F can be addressed, and G&H can be designed after after A, B, C, D, E &F have been playtested

24 months later we get I, J & K. Issues with G & H can be addressed, and I, J & K can be designed after after A, B, C, D, E, F, G & H have been playtested

 

Option 2:

We wait

We wait another 6 months

We wait for 12 months

We wait for 18 months

After 2 years we get A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J & K all in one go. None of the new features have been designed with the benefit of having playtested other features. Plus we get charged $39.99 for the expansion because hey.

Why is option 2 better?

Woah, careful there Malcanis. Using common sense to prove why what someone is complaining about is ridiculous just might break the internet.

Clearly option 2 is better because it lacks any of the logic behind what you posted and option 1 cannot be trolled and raged at.

  hfztt

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10/15/12 9:01:36 AM#19
Originally posted by shingoukieh
Been playing eve for years and why it only does small expansions??? Eve graphics are the same as before and all they do lately is spec ships or balance things. Basically making small subtlte changes. So every 6 months they do a small change. I would really like to see something huge and revolutionary added to eve. Ya know something that has hype like incarna was without the letdown

Lol, you mention the one this they actually HAVE done: All sub capital ship skins have been replaced over the last year.

But yes, in the same tiem Blizzard have given thier players Pandas, CCP have been cleaning up eve, bringing many, many much needed minor tweeks and updates to the game. I for one love what they have done during this time. I will grant you though that it is about time for them to bring out some major new features.

Personally I would like to see them do one tweek expansion and one feature expansion each year.

  Johnie-Marz

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10/15/12 9:27:37 AM#20
Originally posted by shingoukieh
Been playing eve for years and why it only does small expansions??? Eve graphics are the same as before and all they do lately is spec ships or balance things. Basically making small subtlte changes. So every 6 months they do a small change. I would really like to see something huge and revolutionary added to eve. Ya know something that has hype like incarna was without the letdown

I guess they could do a large expansion every two years and make player pay 39 bucks.

BTW they have updated their graphics. The planets, the space ships, the astroids, have all been updated at one time or another.

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