Its just another one of those games. I played for a while and realized it was just mediocre at best. I did enjoy the random events popping up till thats all anyone ever did. But this was when Rift first went live.

I couldnt pin point the "challenging" aspect of this game. Maybe I missed it some where.

Originally posted by moguy2

Its just another one of those games. I played for a while and realized it was just mediocre at best. I did enjoy the random events popping up till thats all anyone ever did. But this was when Rift first went live.

 

I couldnt pin point the "challenging" aspect of this game. Maybe I missed it some where.

Some people are so used to WoW that anything even slightly more engaging is "challenging". Hell, there's some crazies out there that call WoW hardcore, or pretend that "vanilla WoW' was hardcore. 

Originally posted by DavisFlight

... Hell, there's some crazies out there that call WoW hardcore, or pretend that "vanilla WoW' was hardcore. 

I know!  I find that funny as hell.  :D

First time poster as well, but I'll come out in support of Rift. Everything since DAoC has been garbage not fit to be installed on anyones computer, let alone mine.

Rift gave me hope that developers still cared about their game and not just their profit margins.

We have gotten more free content out of Trion than Blizzard has released for WoW total. The game is a joy to play, and with the new expansion coming, I have to say this is the first time I have ever been excited about housing in a game. Every other game that had housing (EQ2, DAoC, etc) it was a total bore.

Give it a try, no harm in playing the free trial to level 20.

EDIT: Also those saying the game is bland obviously never played past level 5, and if they did then they are wrong and just a fanboy of some other game.

Originally posted by Aeonblades

EDIT: Also those saying the game is bland obviously never played past level 5, and if they did then they are wrong and just a fanboy of some other game.

/facepalm.  Not this worn-out cliche of a rebuttal AGAIN.  Since your little temper-tantrum of a broadside was aimed at everyone who doesn't fall to their knees gasping in awe at Rift, I'll bite.

 I'm a fanboy of no game whatsoever.  I usually play a couple of MMOs, one of which (depending on a whim) might entail a monthly subscription, and I mainly alternate between these two.  I have several free MMOs I might play now and again, for a change of pace.  I used the free trial to about lvl 16 or maybe 18 and binned it.  If Rift was Buy-to-Play I might well keep it on my hard drive, but at this time I see no reason whatsoever to pay a sub for Rift.  Frankly, to me it isn't worth it.  It might be for you.  That's life.  Deal with it.

you guys don't realize that, while regular questing in rift is terribly bland, the game is ALL about endgame.

you now have the option of leveling by instant adventure, which speeds up leveling enormously.

i too got hooked to rift not at the first, but at the second sight.

mmorpgers, instead of being a swarm of mmo-devouring locusts, need to learn that some mmorpgs improve a lot upon relase, and NO mmorpg improved as much in such a short time as rift.

Originally posted by KaiserAlexander

you guys don't realize that, while regular questing in rift is terribly bland, the game is ALL about endgame.

you now have the option of leveling by instant adventure, which speeds up leveling enormously.

i too got hooked to rift not at the first, but at the second sight.

 

mmorpgers, instead of being a swarm of mmo-devouring locusts, need to learn that some mmorpgs improve a lot upon relase, and NO mmorpg improved as much in such a short time as rift.

The end game in Rift is grind, grind, grind. It is all about Uber armor - sorry I played Rift for a year and got off that cycle of, 'OH, the next dungeon is coming out - time to group and grind out the next Uber armor for that dungeon'. Sorry, it is boring as hell and not fun with players who take it like a job.

The regular play in Rift is grind, grind, grind also. It is not that fun of a game and the game world is really small.

I could appreciate the replies more if the op said, "for those of you who tried rift and didnt like it, tell us why". But it doesnt :)

Trion's update speed and quality control is fantastic, and has set a high bar in this area for other MMOs to match - other companies could learn from Trion's example here.

However, I found the combat rather dull as a whole.  Macros were a really bad idea IMO, or maybe that the combat system lends itself to that so much means that it was badly designed....dunno....

For me, the game was too gear-focussed and the lore some of the least engaging I've come across.

Some good ideas for sure (I really enjoyed chloro back in the day), but it didn't really work for me.  I also found it a little too high fantasy for my taste.

My 1st post here too

Hi those of you have or have not played Rift!

PvE bah... like WoW or any other MMORPG. They are all crap just from different anal. Nothing special!

Quest: collect 10 of this, 20 of that, kill 20 this creature, even though they seem no harm to you people, plus they respawn again after.

The Wolrd: kinda cool with a lot of world events and reward fall like raindrops.

Dungeon: queue up as group or solo, up to you. You can do the same dungeon in 5 mins or 50 mins... all up to you.

Raid: LFM all day ................................................................ WIPE ............................................................................................

To those of you out here love PvP, I gotta say Rift PvP is joyful.

There are Warfronts that gives us 5 PvP instances. Queue up anytime. There are always low geared peeps for you to kill, or you could be the low geared one. ENJOY!!!

There is Conquest - a massive 3 ways battles - Big Zerg v.s. Small Zerg v.s. A few people. To win CQ: you better do some pve works: you have to destroy the enemies's pylons, then recontruct your own pylons repeatedly. Pretty fun!!!

One thing that which I really luv Rift PvP: you don't need to be goooooood at it, all you need is time to grind. Keep on playing Warfront, Conquest, level up your pvp rank, earn your reward and buy all gears and weapons... haha very easy...

Hope you give Rift a try! Pleasant to meet you all!

Originally posted by Adamantine

Took me 5 minutes with their website to remove Rift from my list:

- Only 6 races. => Gah.

- Darkelves exist (Yay !) but have no dark skin. => GAH !

- Enforced Racial wars. => SUPER GAH !

- Only 4 Classes with the riddiculous forced multiple time subclassing like I know and hate it from DA:O. => Thanks, but no thanks.

 

Just to be clear, I dont oppose subclassing and multiclassing at all. What I consider riddiculous is getting forced into subclassing and/or multiclassing, just to gain numerically a high "variance". That variance is a fake.

Any such system will have multiple subclasses that have synergy. These combination will be what will be played in the end.

That means if you have 12 subclasses and force the player to choose 3 of them, best case scenario is that you get 4 actual classes out of it. Because rarely will players choose subclass combinations of low synergy - and if they do, they will get most likely frustrated. They will for sure not gain entrance into the more powerful guilds.

MMOs are highly competitive environments. Being underpowered is not an enjoyable fate.

 

I have seen some ones that are really dark, unless you are looking for black.

You can cross faction group and mail now, so I don't see how that is Forced.

You can max a single tree and have to minor ones and still be very powerful (I use a mostly Necro/Chloro mix not too sinergized but I like being a master of Death and Life).

I played Rift a bit, and got two chars to max level. I played from headstart and maybe for a total of 2 months. - I liked the game, I even liked the dungeon difficulty those first weeks. What I disliked alot, and what still keeps me from playing the game was the macro'ing. I dont know if its still permitted, but I was as a rogue, able to macro all my relevant builders into one keystroke. - And maybe put in 3 different keys for 3 different scenarios I was likely to face regularly. - But most of the time it was just macro > finisher, rinse repeat. I guess some people just love macros, and TRIONs team seemed to support that they play instead of the players themselves.

Originally posted by Foomerang

I could appreciate the replies more if the op said, "for those of you who tried rift and didnt like it, tell us why". But it doesnt :)

To be fair, people constantly do it in other game's boards. In any event, It goes around so, it's just par for the course. State your opinion on a game, and you get responses from all angles. Doesn't bother me. As long as the opinion is based on accurate info It's fine. Saying Rift offers a linear leveling experience with no options therefore it sucks is an example of what I mean. I've seen that criticism and that, I'll correct, but not the person's opinion. I mean, hey, if Rift sucks, then it sucks. I don't agree, but tha'ts life.

I just get a huge kick out of some of the people going off on Rift, then get their panties all in a bunch when "prescious" is criticized. Telling the critics to "move along" or some such sentiment.

Originally posted by Nilenya

I played Rift a bit, and got two chars to max level. I played from headstart and maybe for a total of 2 months. - I liked the game, I even liked the dungeon difficulty those first weeks. What I disliked alot, and what still keeps me from playing the game was the macro'ing. I dont know if its still permitted, but I was as a rogue, able to macro all my relevant builders into one keystroke. - And maybe put in 3 different keys for 3 different scenarios I was likely to face regularly. - But most of the time it was just macro > finisher, rinse repeat. I guess some people just love macros, and TRIONs team seemed to support that they play instead of the players themselves.

I never understood this argument. Yes, you can incorporate a lot of abilities into the failover macro system. But it's a crutch to do it and a sure sign of a mediocre player at best. If  you are in combat and you start spamming those keys wthout  paying attention, and sometimes, even when you do, you will most likely end up pulling mobs into the group unintentionally. In PVP, you will probably break CCs more often than you should. Sure if all you want to do is shoot at a target dummy all day long, you can optimize your DPS. But other than that, having huge macros does cause other issues. People who are really good at what they do use macros, but keep them minimal and use many different ones. I have many abilities kept off the macros.

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Originally posted by GeezerGamer

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Originally posted by Foomerang I could appreciate the replies more if the op said, "for those of you who tried rift and didnt like it, tell us why". But it doesnt :)

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To be fair, people constantly do it in other game's boards. In any event, It goes around so, it's just par for the course. State your opinion on a game, and you get responses from all angles. Doesn't bother me. As long as the opinion is based on accurate info It's fine. Saying Rift offers a linear leveling experience with no options therefore it sucks is an example of what I mean. I've seen that criticism and that, I'll correct, but not the person's opinion. I mean, hey, if Rift sucks, then it sucks. I don't agree, but tha'ts life.

I just get a huge kick out of some of the people going off on Rift, then get their panties all in a bunch when "prescious" is criticized. Telling the critics to "move along" or some such sentiment.

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Most of the time, i dont mind and find the hate amusing. But in the case of this thread im just seeing people with sour grape syndrome. I mean if you have never tried rift and its free to play up til level 20, then why not go for it? But people still hammer away, dont even want people to try something new for free haha. Its silly.

Rift is a good game for those that choose to raid, but PVP is sorely neglected, and Trion, in my opinion, is adopting new marketing techniques that I view as inappropriate for a reputable subscription based game. 

First they added the shopping cart icon to the UI for a direct link to their quasi cash shop, and tonight we're treated with pop up messages (message in the middle of your screen during gameplay) encouraging subscribers to pre order the upcoming expansion.   IMO, this trend is absolutely unacceptable, and just solidifies my recent decision to cancel my subscription and find another MMO.   I may return when Rift goes F2P, which, based on dev desperation,  I'm sure isn't too far off.