I am pretty much done with Turbine.

They turned into just another nickle and dime company that offers less and less for VIP (subscribers).

Expacs have become nothing but glorified questpacks.

A whole outcry was needed on the forums, before Turbine submitted to add the upcoming Rohan instance cluster to the Expansion price! /facepalm

And now... a much requested features for years is turned into a time based consumable into the cash shop, making it ridiculously expensive to use!

I am talking about the XP dissabler. A feature that games like EverQuest 2 had already build in for years free of use in the interface to enable/disable at your leasure.

It's disgusting what Turbine have become ever since they were bought by Warner Bros. /shrug

Originally posted by starwarsnut

Originally posted by MMOGamer71

Originally posted by starwarsnut

store bought morale pots=pay 2 win the question should be show me whats not at this point. Im really starting to believe that sapience and lotro idiot devs are posting on here to hype this garbage lol.

a more accurate description would be the best mmo example of a pay 2 win store. They win that award hands down lol.

as for mounted combat lolz 5 years to get to rohan and there just now showing this? Still find it hard to take this seriously. No new raids or anything just mounted combat lolz 

Wonder what % of people PVP in a non PVP game, pretty low I bet, you seem to be really stretching P2W.  I've been playing for 10 months or so and have yet to do Creeps vs Freeps.

 

I find it comical to yell P2W in a PVE game because no other game has healing pots right?

the difference is youve played only 10 months ive played 4 years since beta 2. When you have the ability to buy pots in the store that stack on top of your regular pots that is pay 2 win go play a free monster player youll notice instantly what im talking about. Youll find out quickly that sapience/patience are liars with there "convience not advantange" bs when your seeing multiple pots going off and your lucky get a kill. 

There's pots in other games the difference is theres no store pots that stack on top of non store pots. I.E pay 2 win.

 

 

If your worried about PvP in a PvE game your doing it wrong, once again what % would you guess play LOTRO for PvP? 

.003% ?

Bet the same people that play LOTRO for PvP play Darkfall for it's PvE.

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Originally posted by elocke
Agree with OP.  Cannot wait till Monday.  I'll be lost in Middle Earth yet again and enjoying all this new content.  Oh, and Hytbold is awesome!  Raid loot!  Yes, take that Blizzard.  Finally an answer to soloer's wanting raid loot and there it is.  Suck on that, Warcraft! Muahahah, lol.

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You do realize the raid loot isn't ready yet as the instance cluster isn't either.
You get lvl85 shineys which are equal or better to lvl75 raidloot.

You are right, you will be wearing the "top" gear for a while as any [lvl75] raider. But that's just temporary till the cluster releases, since there is no lvl85 "Raid" yet.

Trying to pull of a temporary circumstance (since Turbine can't get ready in time) as a design philosophy isn't going to work out.

Another Topic: Pots are "P2W" even in raids. There's a difference in dying due to additional fire dots or just hitting an additional.-> pot.

It doesnt matter if its pvp or pve the store pots are p2w either way in or out of the moors and they stack on top of non store pots ine pvp/pve and as the above poster stated in raids. Theres store armor you can pretty much buy all your traits now  its quite discusting. Like i said its just a vrtual grocery store now.

Gw2 destroyed whats left of the pvp i was on one of the biggest pvp servers and rift/swtor/gw2 have killed off the moors due to turbines stupidity when it comes to the moors and lying about the new pvmp map all the time.

Originally posted by fenistil

Originally posted by Jaedor

Not sure how PvMP is pay to win, seeing as how you have to be a subscriber to even play that element of LOTRO. 

Are you even playing Lotro?  You don't have to be subscriber to play in Ettenmoors. Monster play is open for free players.

Doh my bad. I don't PvP in LOTRO and forgot all about that. Thanks for the reminder!

Edit: Seems like most of the complaining in this thread is coming from the PvPers.

Originally posted by fenistil

This game nowadays is like mixture of mall and tolkien world.

QFT. LOTRO changed from immerssive game where you explored Tolkien world into welcome to Tolkien Mall sponsored by WB/Turbine!!! Store buttons are nearly on every screen you can push them in, promotions, unlocks, premium content, P2W items(potions, scrolls, keys) and of course designing game around the cash shop(i.e. legendary items). Those slowly killed game for me. I wanted just to play it without all marketing and nickle and dime, sadly I couldn't as every new nice feature is...store only. 6th bag, premium wallets, xp lock and whatever new thing they'll add.  To think people complained so hard about RMAH in D3...

Anyways now in GW2, a B2P game(just like you have to buy expansions for LOTRO) I'm finally free from buy in store this, get in store that. I can play, immerse and explore huge, beautiful, full of hidden features world, that LOTRO stopped being long time ago(when they made it for gamers not for $).

Still trying to figure out how PvE items is P2W.  Me thinks P2W has become a watered down term that has lost it's orginal intended meaning and there are other threads to discuss P2W.

Back on topic, can't wait.

Originally posted by fenistil

Originally posted by Jaedor

Not sure how PvMP is pay to win, seeing as how you have to be a subscriber to even play that element of LOTRO.

 

Are you even playing Lotro?  You don't have to be subscriber to play in Ettenmoors. Monster play is open for free players.

Lotro is not a pvp game, period.  Secondly, no free player is even going to attempt to do monster play, there are just so many unllocks.  Thirdly, if it so moves you, you can unlock all monster play just with ingame points, if you really want to waste them like that.

Hence there is nothing pay-to-win in Lotro!