I somewhat agree with this guys opinion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmScXMVUuDM&t=23m35s

Originally posted by boxsnd
OP if I was you I would wait. http://beta.xfire.com/games/gw2 take a look at those numbers, the game will be F2P or at least sold at a MUCH lower price soon (unless they drastically improve it). For most people the fun lasts less than 2 weeks.

Had to laugh when I saw this

A) We all pretty much agreed years ago that X-fire is not a good indicator of a games population . I'm suprised anyones still using this arguement nowdays . Troll these days really need to find better ways to troll a game than use x-fire . Its only used by a certain demographic of gamers and most people have never even heard of it .

B) Free to play ???? don't be daft . Its already a buy to play game .

C)Of course it will go down in price over time . What game doesn't ??? But I don't think it will be untill next year sometime .

D) The servers are heaving with people . I see more people exploring and questing in GW2 than any other mmo I've played recently . WoWs game worlds pretty much dead in comparison because most people are grinding instances .

So essentially you've showed us all ...........

A)Your trolling the game probably because you need to feel vindicated in your choice of mmo

B) You have no concept of the difference between B2P and F2P .

C) Stated the blooming obvious

D)That you most likly don't even own a copy of GW2 or you could have looked up server statuses ( if you had you would not have quoted xfire would you ?)

I'll give you a  D- for trolling . Could do better .

Originally posted by Escada

Hey guys..

I've held off a little in looking in to GW2 for several reasons but I am wondering what peoples views are on how it is now that the novelty (perhaps) has worn off?  I've been playing MMOs for a long time and after quitting wow when Firelands was released I finally found an MMO, years later, that I have really enjoyed; TSW.   However, whilst I am waiting for the raid to be released I was hoping I might get some objective reports on GW2.. Im a bit frazled out on the fantasy genre but am I missing out by not taking a look at the game?

Look forward to your thoughts. :)

Wonderful game, just don't play it 12hrs in one go as some are doing on this forum.....the ones that are complaining about being bored or the 'lack of content'.

GW2 is a high quality AAA MMORPG you pay 60 bucks for and then can play forever.

If you are looking for a good game to fill the void between two content additions in your "main" MMORPG, it's the idea game. But be warned... you may become "addicted" and turn GW2 in your main MMORPG... ;-)

Originally posted by Escada

Hey guys..

I've held off a little in looking in to GW2 for several reasons but I am wondering what peoples views are on how it is now that the novelty (perhaps) has worn off?  I've been playing MMOs for a long time and after quitting wow when Firelands was released I finally found an MMO, years later, that I have really enjoyed; TSW.   However, whilst I am waiting for the raid to be released I was hoping I might get some objective reports on GW2.. Im a bit frazled out on the fantasy genre but am I missing out by not taking a look at the game?

Look forward to your thoughts. :)

You wont find any "objective" reports on GW2 or any other game.

I personally still like it a lot, some others dont, it all depends on how you play. If you have the raid mentally and just want new and better gear all the time, you might still enjoy the game but not for that long. Most loot wh***s tire after 2-4 weeks because the gap between exotic and legandary is small in numbers but great in time.

If you on the other hand love exploring, massive PvP and dislike questhubs you will get a lot out of the game.

If you are a PvP fan that enjoy ganking other players you should just stay away altogether. Same if playing the auction house is your favorite thing to do, the cross server AH makes that close to impossible.

I love exploration so the game fits me like a glove. If you will like it and for how long really depends on what you enjoy in a MMO, 

Originally posted by roo67

B) Free to play ???? don't be daft . Its already a buy to play game .

Woah, so you go out into public and parrot a marketing strategy which is based entirely on a made up new "concept" which is basically a lifetime subscription, one of the oldest MMO business models in existence?

Gosh.. I can´t believe how incredibly good marketing departments reach into people´s minds today. Scary.

So what if I tell you that you actually bought a lifetime sub, and GW2 came free with it? Wouldn´t that be a regular F2P title, and you simply bought a very cheap lifetime sub for that F2P title?

You could also view GW2 as a F2P title with a 60$ up front cost to get access to the game and their cash shop.

Originally posted by roo67

B) You have no concept of the difference between B2P and F2P .

oh my.

Originally posted by Yakamomoto

Originally posted by roo67

B) Free to play ???? don't be daft . Its already a buy to play game .

Woah, so you go out into public and parrot a marketing strategy which is based entirely on a made up new "concept" which is basically a lifetime subscription, one of the oldest MMO business models in existence?

Gosh.. I can´t believe how incredibly good marketing departments reach into people´s minds today. Scary.

 

So what if I tell you that you actually bought a lifetime sub, and GW2 came free with it? Wouldn´t that be a regular F2P title, and you simply bought a very cheap lifetime sub for that F2P title?

You could also view GW2 as a F2P title with a 60$ up front cost to get access to the game and their cash shop.

 

Originally posted by roo67

B) You have no concept of the difference between B2P and F2P .

oh my.

Tell me of one game where you can get a lifetime subscription for 50 dollars ? If you can I will be willing to conceed you have a point .

Also think about it free to play games are really nothing more than an extended free trial . The client is also free unlike a buy to play game . There is also an optional subscription in the western model free to play games that gives you access to all the content .

It is of course theoretically possible to play a f2player game totally for free but it would take an enormous amount of grinding to do so . Where as in GW2  buy to play its far easier to earn in game currancy to buy gems to spend in the cash shop . Also at present you don't have to buy access to anywhere in the game world from the cash shop unlike say DDO or Lotro .

Leveling is not limited in GW2 like it is say in Age of Conan and Everquest .

I'm not going to insult you but if you can't see the difference between the two systems all I will say is I feel a bit sorry for you .

And of  course buy to play isn't a new concept its been used by single player games since pong . I don't think I said it was a new concept anywhere in my post . Are you in the habbit of putting words in peoples mouths ?

Originally posted by Yakamomoto

I somewhat agree with this guys opinion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmScXMVUuDM&t=23m35s

He had me laughing my ass off almost straight away.  Thanks for the find :)

Originally posted by Amjoco

Some say it won't make it, but I think they are fooling themselves. I have seen posts from folks claiming that people are quitting left and right.

Here is a video I recorded this evening in the human starter area. Mind you this is just a small part of a huge world, and the number of players has to be huge...even on a Tuesday evening.

The game is awesome and no matter what, you can not beat the entertainment value.

One hour of an episode of "Game of Thrones" that I haven't seen before, has far more entertainment value than one hour in any MMORPG, in my opinion. I find it to be a comparison of interest since MMORPGs are in my case  directly competing with all other forms of entertainment.

Originally posted by Yakamomoto

Originally posted by roo67

B) Free to play ???? don't be daft . Its already a buy to play game .

Woah, so you go out into public and parrot a marketing strategy which is based entirely on a made up new "concept" which is basically a lifetime subscription, one of the oldest MMO business models in existence?

Gosh.. I can´t believe how incredibly good marketing departments reach into people´s minds today. Scary.

 

So what if I tell you that you actually bought a lifetime sub, and GW2 came free with it? Wouldn´t that be a regular F2P title, and you simply bought a very cheap lifetime sub for that F2P title?

You could also view GW2 as a F2P title with a 60$ up front cost to get access to the game and their cash shop.

 

Originally posted by roo67

B) You have no concept of the difference between B2P and F2P .

oh my.

Well by your definition almost every game is F2P than. Skyrim is F2P with lifetime sub but only comes with Offline Mode. So is the Witcher 2, Half-life has an online mode on top of that. Same for Quake 3 Arena and Unreal Tournament.

You now that means TSW has is an extremely expensive F2P with lifetime sub game than. As it costs well over $200 then. Especially expensive when you realise the developers only put in 1/3 of the content any other MMO has. As it's masked by its questbook limitations. Meaning you have to run back and forth over the same area to pick up the different main quests, since you can only have one of those active.

You are merely twisting words to fit with your trollish bashing of GW2. The same way I twisted your own words.

There is no such thing as honest opinion on these forums OP. Only biased ones. 

However, i can give you a suggestion if you want to buy the game but i don't think you mentioned that anywhere in your OP.

But yeah expecting an honest opinion over here? good luck with that.

Originally posted by halflife25

There is no such thing as honest opinion on these forums OP. Only biased ones. 

However, i can give you a suggestion if you want to buy the game but i don't think you mentioned that anywhere in your OP.

But yeah expecting an honest opinion over here? good luck with that.

A honest opinion can be biased; I don't see the contradiction. It is only dishonest if you are not giving your actual opinion but a different opinion that you do not agree with; like telling someone "nice haircut" when you really don't think it is nice.

Originally posted by TwoThreeFour

Originally posted by halflife25

There is no such thing as honest opinion on these forums OP. Only biased ones. 

However, i can give you a suggestion if you want to buy the game but i don't think you mentioned that anywhere in your OP.

But yeah expecting an honest opinion over here? good luck with that.

A honest opinion can be biased; I don't see the contradiction. It is only dishonest if you are not giving your actual opinion but a different opinion that you do not agree with; like telling someone "nice haircut" when you really don't think it is nice.

Ok so honestly biased... i like that. 

Could be better.

But more importantly, not a WoW clone! Which makes it better than 99% of other games out there.

Right now, its the game to play, but that is until another company makes a better one. Compared to the rest of the MMO market its a 10/10 and has lived up to most expectations. Compared to where we should be in 2012 its still a 5/10 :(

Like many games, this is either a love it or leave it game. The poeple who love it with be adamant how GW2 is the next best thing to sliced bread. The 'leave it' people think it is the worst game ever designed.

I think, if you had 60 dollars, GW2 is a decent game and would be worth the price.

Originally posted by halflife25

Originally posted by TwoThreeFour

Originally posted by halflife25

There is no such thing as honest opinion on these forums OP. Only biased ones. 

However, i can give you a suggestion if you want to buy the game but i don't think you mentioned that anywhere in your OP.

But yeah expecting an honest opinion over here? good luck with that.

A honest opinion can be biased; I don't see the contradiction. It is only dishonest if you are not giving your actual opinion but a different opinion that you do not agree with; like telling someone "nice haircut" when you really don't think it is nice.

Ok so honestly biased... i like that. 

Well he got a point though.

Like a person that is in love with an ugly partner but he/she sees them as the most beautiful person in the world. He/she is biased (he believes his false version of reality as true) but honest (he truly believes what he sees as the actual reality) at the same time.

Originally posted by halflife25

There is no such thing as honest opinion on these forums OP. Only biased ones. 

However, i can give you a suggestion if you want to buy the game but i don't think you mentioned that anywhere in your OP.

But yeah expecting an honest opinion over here? good luck with that.

Wrong.

My opinion as stated here whenever I post is my honest opinion.

Originally posted by Caliburn101

Originally posted by halflife25

There is no such thing as honest opinion on these forums OP. Only biased ones. 

However, i can give you a suggestion if you want to buy the game but i don't think you mentioned that anywhere in your OP.

But yeah expecting an honest opinion over here? good luck with that.

Wrong.

My opinion as stated here whenever I post is my honest opinion.

Yeah sure bud!! when i want to find bright beacons of honesty i come to these forums.

Originally posted by Caliburn101

Originally posted by halflife25

There is no such thing as honest opinion on these forums OP. Only biased ones. 

However, i can give you a suggestion if you want to buy the game but i don't think you mentioned that anywhere in your OP.

But yeah expecting an honest opinion over here? good luck with that.

Wrong.

My opinion as stated here whenever I post is my honest opinion.

For some people, being "honest" is lying to match their opinion... if your opinion doesn't match theirs, it can't be honest.

 ;-)

Originally posted by Escada

Im quite interested in ranked PvP.. I still have fun in TSW PvP but it needs a lot more work. 

What are peoples thoughts on the PvP side of the game?

sPvP I haven't been involved in, so cannot comment, but...if it's anything like WvWvW right now, it's completely broken.

Armies are running around the world completely invisible, fighting invisible. If you're not in a guild or on a team using the method, you're getting steamrolled.

Hopefully they fix it, since it has definitely taken the sails out of any pvp I do and anyone else I know.

Great game otherwise, I fear about the low pop servers, for they are plagued by bots...having visted Kaineng myself recently.  Never in any game have I seen so many bots and I been playing mmos since '98.