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  User Deleted
10/09/12 1:38:57 AM#21

so let me get this straight.....

 

you left GW2 because it wasn't stable enough so you go to a game who's servers where entirely hacked and everyone killed

you went to WoW for stable pvp a game whos devs have had 7 yrs to get the talent trees right and still failed

and you think WoW has ten mil subs and have been dooped into paying the execs again because we all know sub money goes to nothing but execs pockets.

 

well have fun i guess

 

 

  Purutzil

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The Critical Hit Pretzel!

10/09/12 1:46:14 AM#22
Originally posted by LeegOfChldrn

Now I'm back to playing WoW, as the PvP is extremely well balanced compared to GW2, far more casual friendly, group friendly, arenas for small groups as well as full groups, but most of all it's just plain better made and more polished. (Obviously, as GW2 doesn't have 10 million subscribers, lol).

Wait, what WoW are you playing? Am I so far behind the loop that classes are balanced, cause WoW was terrible in this regard. Not to mention I love that extra part at the end. While I don't think GW2 is that amazing of a game, really, WoW? Your holding that old game thats only so popular do to nostoligia and having an established base with it and the 'everyone is playing it, I should too' players? Really? *facepalm* If you think numbers = better, then you really are quite dillusional, particularly if you think new games should outpolish established games that have had plenty of time to do so.

  Scalpless

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10/09/12 1:56:07 AM#23
And this is why companies usually don't give refunds.
  zimboy69

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10/09/12 1:58:00 AM#24
how many hours did the opening  post play of gw2

  Mothanos

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10/09/12 1:58:03 AM#25

I dont see any bots in Structured pvp try again.
I dont see bots in WvW, not on the level WoW does inside their Battlegrounds.

Cheating with orbs, i give you that, but that banhammer is comming and fixes are on the way.

Now try to pvp in WoW on offpeak hours and try to count the bots doing pvp, log in to GW2 and join Spvp and try again.

Bots are in any mmo, no mmo is not invested with bots.
But where the bots are is amking a major impact, and in WoW with their budget and their lack of banning those hundred of thousands of bots inside PvP is a total joke.

When i still played WoW i have counted 12 bots in a 15v15 Eye of the Storm....
3 real players in a team of 15.
Now thats not always the case, but if you see that same bot 3 weeks later you cant think Blizzard takes this seriously.

To each his own style of play, but i just chuckle hard when people compare GW2 to WoW and still call WoW a better game :)
But thats just my personal vieuw tough, some people say Minecraft is the best game ever made with 100 million active accounts.


And when we are talking about balanced pvp, hope you have fun with stun stun stun wootaaaa woottaaaaa whaaa haaa whaa haaa stun stun.
Yes that trinket on a 2 min cooldown aint goin to safe you from the 400 stuns fears roots sheeps frost nova's.

I would read up on MoP pvp before even reconsidering a resub, but thats just me tough and it seems you made up your mind already :)

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  Exzyz

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10/09/12 2:07:39 AM#26
The game is boring as balls. Im going to try and get a refund but I dont really care if I dont.
  JoeyMMO

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To busy playing GW2 to post much around here... *shrug*

10/09/12 2:15:16 AM#27
Originally posted by Xasapis
Originally posted by Mothanos

Have fun playing with bots in battlegrounds, heared its doubled since MoP.
Make sure to roll the next fotm also.

Not saying GW2 pvp is perfect, but name me 1 mmo with many classes with WvW that have perfect balance.

Some classes are good versus others and some classes have wicked skills and tricks but lower damage.

Hope you can enjoy WoW m8, but what my former guildies are saying they allready puke out the daily grinds with quests and are fed up with all the bots.

GW2 has no ground accusing other mmorpgs of having bots in its current state. Seriously. When they fix the issues with people teleporting around, flying or running underground with the orb, then maybe GW2 may point out faults in the exploitable state of other mmorpgs, not before.

 GW2 isn't pointing out anything or accusing anyone. No need to attack GW2 for something it has no control over. Freedom of speech you know?

  Xasapis

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10/09/12 2:18:40 AM#28

If that post was an answer to mine, I'm afraid you're confused. Maybe when you're off the honeymoon period you'll think clearer.

 

First of all, I have no idea what is happening in WoW, since I haven't touched it for the past 4 years. You could have inserted any X mmorpg name and my answer would be the same. You can't call other mmorpgs as being bot infested when this one has the exact same issues. Personally I don't like hypocrisy.

 

As for the defensive stance "I haven't seen it hence it doesn't exist", well, it's been tried and failed in orther mmorpgs as well. You're doing more harm to your favorite game when you try to shrug the issues, when it's exactly those issues that may and will drive people away from the only long term content present in GW2 atm.

 

Edit: No point talking about "balance" either. GW2 is not there yet, close perhaps (and have a much easier job than GW1), but not there yet.

Originally posted by JoeyMMO
....

 GW2 isn't pointing out anything or accusing anyone. No need to attack GW2 for something it has no control over. Freedom of speech you know?

Please replace GW2 with GW2 fans if it wasn't clear.

  halflife25

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Joined: 9/13/12
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10/09/12 2:22:29 AM#29
Originally posted by evolver1972
Originally posted by bcbully
something stinks here 

I agree.  There is a definite "under the bridge" smell to this one.....

You know it is all right to prefer another MMO  over GW2. 

  kostoslav

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10/09/12 2:26:20 AM#30
How many hours have u invested in gw2? I hate ppl thet invest 100+ hours in a game and then ask for a refund.
I agree that WoW is much better game, but saying that WoWs PvP is better is just wrong imo.

I think this site has way to many rabid and angry gw2 funs
  Xten

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10/09/12 4:58:30 AM#31
Originally posted by zimboy69
how many hours did the opening  post play of gw2

 

Most likeley zero.

 

A MMO developer (owned by NCsoft no less) that gives people their money back just because they claim PvP is unbalanced ??? 

 

Or reason number 2 , the game is not friendly towards smaller groups ???  (not sure what that i based on tbh)

 

And this is why A-net/NCsoft gave him his money back in admittance?

I really doubt this story.

 

 

Even so i dont think i would even bother making a special thread about it if i went back to wow already. I would have mentioned it in relevant thread maybe but i doubt i would have felt a legitimate reason to get special attention for it.

 

WoW's pvp is not balanced nor will it ever be anywahere near balance at any given time. The reaons is PVP tiered gear ,the ones with the better gear win ,end of story. Unless you have the best gear availlable and manage to claim that the game is balanced because you win every fight you will never agree that gear based pvp is balanced.No matter how good you are a Lada will never win a race from a Ferrari.

  Zeroxin

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10/09/12 5:08:43 AM#32

@ The OP

As a single player I've been able to win tournies, as a 2 player team I've been able to win tournies, as a 3 player team I've been able to win tournies and so on and so forth. I think it's your skill and your communication with your team that might be the problem. Every team I've won with has either had good personal skill, good group communication or good movement around the map. I've even won 4v5s due to a combination of these things.

If you're not willing to cut through the crap to learn to play the game and try to team up with people you don't know then, you'll definitely lose a lot more than you win.

This is not a game.

  Amjoco

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10/09/12 5:12:13 AM#33

Oh these threads are just silly. A true mmorpg Champion could easily play both. 

 

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  korent1991

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10/09/12 5:20:46 AM#34
Originally posted by ZizouX

You do realize that becuase you got the refund.. your account will be erased ... and if you decide to come back, you'll have to start from scratch?

 

PS - Stopped playing wow 3 years ago.... that ship has sailed....

Not only that but your credit card is most likely banned as well.

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  halflife25

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10/09/12 5:25:19 AM#35
Originally posted by korent1991
Originally posted by ZizouX

You do realize that becuase you got the refund.. your account will be erased ... and if you decide to come back, you'll have to start from scratch?

 

PS - Stopped playing wow 3 years ago.... that ship has sailed....

Not only that but your credit card is most likely banned as well.

Huh? CC is msotly like banned if you charge back. Nadia already posted link that if you buy from GW2 you can get a refund. I don't see why CC will be banned if company is voluntarily offering refunds.

  Connmacart

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10/09/12 6:08:41 AM#36
Originally posted by Zeroxin

@ The OP

As a single player I've been able to win tournies, as a 2 player team I've been able to win tournies, as a 3 player team I've been able to win tournies and so on and so forth. I think it's your skill and your communication with your team that might be the problem. Every team I've won with has either had good personal skill, good group communication or good movement around the map. I've even won 4v5s due to a combination of these things.

If you're not willing to cut through the crap to learn to play the game and try to team up with people you don't know then, you'll definitely lose a lot more than you win.

Nah he simply wasn't able to grind uber gear to waltz over other people like he does in his precious WoW. He was bragging about his PvP status in WoW a few months before GW2 released. As if that means something in a gear centric game.

  Raekon

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10/09/12 7:04:47 AM#37
Originally posted by Xten

 

Or reason number 2 , the game is not friendly towards smaller groups ???  (not sure what that i based on tbh)

 

WoW's pvp is not balanced nor will it ever be anywahere near balance at any given time. The reaons is PVP tiered gear ,the ones with the better gear win ,end of story. Unless you have the best gear availlable and manage to claim that the game is balanced because you win every fight you will never agree that gear based pvp is balanced.No matter how good you are a Lada will never win a race from a Ferrari.

To answer your number 2 after I read his comment:

- he indicates that he entered a tournament PvP at the mists with only 3 people and expected to win against 5

Since he lost he called the game "unbalanced" and not "smaller groups friendly" which is not logical in my opinion.

Unless he had mistaken the WoW Thief with the GW2 and thought that he can turn invinsible, hit a stun, hit a crit, hit another hit and kill someone.

Most likely didn't happen in GW2 so he was dissappointed that he can't "own" everyone and their granny with like 3 hits while everyone is playing the "sitting duck" with a huge "please backstab and kill me" sign on their backs.

He probably also missed the fact that he can't be overgeared so he can take on 5 people with 3 on his side THAT easily in GW2 either.

I'm not THAT good in pvp either and mostly a supporter in my teams in GW2 but I have seen many people that put a lot of effort into builds and know what goes with what perfectly.

If he came against someone like that then he definately found the game even more "unbalanced" because they more than likely killed him in seconds too. :p

You are also right about the balance in WoW and not only because of the not existand balancing between the classes but also because of the gear factor that lets unskilled players kill skilled ones no matter what they do in many occassions.

Also laughable that people still compare a game that just came out and it's 1,5 months old with one that is out for 8 years to say the least.

  bcbully

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10/09/12 7:04:54 AM#38
Originally posted by kostoslav
How many hours have u invested in gw2? I hate ppl thet invest 100+ hours in a game and then ask for a refund.
I agree that WoW is much better game, but saying that WoWs PvP is better is just wrong imo.

I think this site has way to many rabid and angry gw2 funs

I agreed with him on WoW pvp being better, but for all different reasons. OP found away to tick all readers off lol.

  zimboy69

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10/09/12 7:05:55 AM#39

this is a truly great advert  for  anet

 

some dude  comes and plays the game and for what ever reason anet will refund him his money

isnt that somthing that is  a really good positive move by  a mmo company

 

i wonder if this wow game will do the same i have 3 years of subs and  burning  crusade and  vanilla   im  wondering if the mighty blizzard will refund me or are they just money grabbing

  mcrippins

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10/09/12 7:14:45 AM#40
They should never have given you a refund. 
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