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  evolver1972

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10/08/12 1:52:48 AM#41
Originally posted by aligada87
Originally posted by tawess

aligada87.. most games have a rule against "calling out" a dev for an answer... I am pretty sure they are aware of the issue and will give an answer as soon as they can.

 

So in essence you broke three rules

1: You called out a dev

2: You made a new thread about a pinned topic

3:  You topic did not contribute to the issue at hand. Rather it just restated that it was an issue, something that was very clear as it where.

 

You misstake is to think that YOU would get an answer just because you asked, and that ANet simply forgot to tell everybody or did not understand that the HAD to answer the question that they did not have an answer to. That being said i agree the wording is a bit harsh.

 

Enjoy your infraction with the warm glow of knowledge well earned.

so my question is. why was the other post deleted? answer that

Maybe because there is already a thread about that?

 

In fact, there is a sticky on the forums about all necro bugs, including minions here.

 

So, really, it seems you're just angry that you broke the rules on their forums and they busted you for it.

You want me to pay to play a game I already paid for???

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  tawess

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10/08/12 1:53:46 AM#42
Originally posted by aligada87
Originally posted by tawess

my post bla bla

so my question is. why was the other post deleted? answer that

Well how in the flying circus would i know...
But i will give you a few examples

 

A: It had derailed

B: They felt that all that could be said about the issue had been said and the thread was compiled and send to the devs for evaluation

C: It was going toward flamebait/trolling

D: ANet orderd it closed as it no longer served a purpoes (issue might be resolved in the internal testbuild)

E: They might be in the works of opening a official response

 

As i said i have not a flying fat f*bleeep* of an idea why it was closed but you can pick any of the above and it would most likley be correct.

This have been a good conversation

  aligada87

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OP  10/08/12 1:55:28 AM#43
Originally posted by evolver1972
Originally posted by aligada87
Originally posted by tawess

aligada87.. most games have a rule against "calling out" a dev for an answer... I am pretty sure they are aware of the issue and will give an answer as soon as they can.

 

So in essence you broke three rules

1: You called out a dev

2: You made a new thread about a pinned topic

3:  You topic did not contribute to the issue at hand. Rather it just restated that it was an issue, something that was very clear as it where.

 

You misstake is to think that YOU would get an answer just because you asked, and that ANet simply forgot to tell everybody or did not understand that the HAD to answer the question that they did not have an answer to. That being said i agree the wording is a bit harsh.

 

Enjoy your infraction with the warm glow of knowledge well earned.

so my question is. why was the other post deleted? answer that

Maybe because there is already a thread about that?

 

In fact, there is a sticky on the forums about all necro bugs, including minions here.

 

So, really, it seems you're just angry that you broke the rules on their forums and they busted you for it.

lol once again you don't see my point to this whole arguement and why the title is called what it is. you sir are a fanboy of gw2 or work for them lol

  Phry

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10/08/12 1:55:46 AM#44
Originally posted by CallsignVega

ANet have become a bunch of forum Nazi's. I posted that they should get their act together and fix this invisinble army player culling in WvW and they suspended my forum account.

 

I guess the truth hurts..

Hopefully you did actually file a bug report on that issue, rather than just complaining about things on their forums. Your forum account getting suspended though, might be more due to your 'rhetoric' than the nature of the complaint.

  Scalpless

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10/08/12 1:57:24 AM#45
Originally posted by aligada87

next time they should put it under code of conduct not to ask questions directly towards their dev because we simply don't like it. cause i did not see anything in their code of conduct that was similar to that lol. oh and i read all the code of conducts of mmos i play. also you can't make that analogy about that situation because i bought the game. thats like saying you bought a property and they still have a say in it and you cant practice your right. lol you just made me rofl with this comment

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/rules

<div rules"="">
  • Do not engage in staff call-outs. Using the words “ArenaNet” or any staff member’s name will not expedite the answer to your query.
 
  evolver1972

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10/08/12 1:58:57 AM#46
Originally posted by aligada87
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by aligada87
Originally posted by BTrayaL
Originally posted by aligada87
Originally posted by BTrayaL

In regard to the thread title, well.... they ARE the law, in their game.

The thread was not entirely malicious, but if you do know that this problem was debated in another thread, why did you start your own? I hate users that create threads just because they can.

You could have just reported the bug, right?

sometimes if you want to get heard you have to directly do something that will be noticable. reason why i created this thread and it was directly a question towards john peters. it's not a matter of you can or not. that is how life is dude. if you ever want to be heard you don't sit behind someone else to talk for you. that is why they have debates in countries :)

I meant why did you start another thread and not debate the problem in the existing one? Was that not the most logical choice?

Do we really need to start each of us a thread about the same problem/question? Can't we all join in on a single thread and discuss it there, like we do here?

P.S. Aww, I see, you're one of the guys that adresses the devs directly, and demands a reply, because they have nothing to do but watch the forums for that special user. Get over it, and use existing threads!

because it's simple the question wasn't being asked here is one of my proof. chrome://newtabhttps//forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/professions/necromancer/Necromancer-minions/first#post372977 read how little it was discussed. and also see how  little it was talked about. that is why i went for a more direct approach but apparently you cant do that with anet because it violates code of conduct. listen i don't know where you're from but here in united states we have rights lol. guess just not used to it with anet limiting me on that. sorry if i sound piss just anet pissed me off.

Lol, I love these free speech dudes, so naive, try going to your local mall and preaching your topic of the day, see how your free speech works for you there.

Free speech is a good thing, it allows you to say things in public places without fear of arrest, however it does not give you the right to come into my house and say what you like, I can throw you out for the slightest of reasons. Simply, you went into ANets house and didn't respect their rules.

next time they should put it under code of conduct not to ask questions directly towards their dev because we simply don't like it. cause i did not see anything in their code of conduct that was similar to that lol. oh and i read all the code of conducts of mmos i play. also you can't make that analogy about that situation because i bought the game. thats like saying you bought a property and they still have a say in it and you cant practice your right. lol you just made me rofl with this comment

Do not engage in staff call-outs. Using the words “ArenaNet” or any staff member’s name will not expedite the answer to your query.

 

You may contact staff directly at forums@arena.net if you wish to discuss a staff member’s decision.

 

Those quotes are copied directly from the Forum Code of Conduct.

 

Also, the EULA specifically says that the game is the property of Anet, not you.  You are basically leasing the right to use it, and said right may be revoked at any time.  Besides that, buying the game doesn't automatically give you the right to post on the forums, they are bound by other rules.

 

Of course, if you'd actually read the EULA and Code Of Conduct, you'd probably know that.

You want me to pay to play a game I already paid for???

Be afraid.....The dragons are HERE!

  aligada87

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Joined: 7/24/11
Posts: 223

 
OP  10/08/12 1:59:57 AM#47
Originally posted by Scalpless
Originally posted by aligada87

next time they should put it under code of conduct not to ask questions directly towards their dev because we simply don't like it. cause i did not see anything in their code of conduct that was similar to that lol. oh and i read all the code of conducts of mmos i play. also you can't make that analogy about that situation because i bought the game. thats like saying you bought a property and they still have a say in it and you cant practice your right. lol you just made me rofl with this comment

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/rules

<div rules"="">
  • Do not engage in staff call-outs. Using the words “ArenaNet” or any staff member’s name will not expedite the answer to your query.
 

so where does it say the infraction part if you decide to do so? i mean to recieve that type of punishment over my first offence lol. you just proved my point ty

  Phry

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Posts: 4744

10/08/12 2:00:35 AM#48
Originally posted by Scalpless
Originally posted by aligada87

next time they should put it under code of conduct not to ask questions directly towards their dev because we simply don't like it. cause i did not see anything in their code of conduct that was similar to that lol. oh and i read all the code of conducts of mmos i play. also you can't make that analogy about that situation because i bought the game. thats like saying you bought a property and they still have a say in it and you cant practice your right. lol you just made me rofl with this comment

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/rules

<div rules"="">
  • Do not engage in staff call-outs. Using the words “ArenaNet” or any staff member’s name will not expedite the answer to your query.
 

Rules are like furniture assembly instructions, people who don't read them tend to end up complaining about the results

  evolver1972

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10/08/12 2:01:06 AM#49
Originally posted by aligada87
Originally posted by evolver1972
Originally posted by aligada87
Originally posted by tawess

aligada87.. most games have a rule against "calling out" a dev for an answer... I am pretty sure they are aware of the issue and will give an answer as soon as they can.

 

So in essence you broke three rules

1: You called out a dev

2: You made a new thread about a pinned topic

3:  You topic did not contribute to the issue at hand. Rather it just restated that it was an issue, something that was very clear as it where.

 

You misstake is to think that YOU would get an answer just because you asked, and that ANet simply forgot to tell everybody or did not understand that the HAD to answer the question that they did not have an answer to. That being said i agree the wording is a bit harsh.

 

Enjoy your infraction with the warm glow of knowledge well earned.

so my question is. why was the other post deleted? answer that

Maybe because there is already a thread about that?

 

In fact, there is a sticky on the forums about all necro bugs, including minions here.

 

So, really, it seems you're just angry that you broke the rules on their forums and they busted you for it.

lol once again you don't see my point to this whole arguement and why the title is called what it is. you sir are a fanboy of gw2 or work for them lol

Right, I'm a fanboy because I point out the flaws in your arguments.

 

And, yes, Anet thinks they are the law in their forums and their games.  It's theirs, they are the law.  Don't like it?  Don't play.

You want me to pay to play a game I already paid for???

Be afraid.....The dragons are HERE!

  Reklaw

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10/08/12 2:01:53 AM#50
Originally posted by aligada87
Originally posted by Zeroxin
I've been playing the Necromancer for a days now and I do not have this minion Ai problem that people keep talking about, just a few pathing issues which happen in every game and are easily solved by getting a certain distance away from the minion and it just teleports to you.

lol then you havent been playing it long. when you're in a lvl 75-80 map with endless de happening your minions pating around is not always so good. also check them out in pvp the minions don't attack same target at all when u drect them to. they actually scatter out making them split dps which is bad for a minion master. another issue is when flesh golem stands there like a statue and some of your other minions.

 

like i said you probably haven't played the necromancer long enough. thus you're probably a lowbie that doesn't have access to all his minions yet aka flesh golem. there has been countless even videos posted about the ai system of minions for necros. i suggest going on youtube and watching a few

May I ask if you actually reported it ingame? /bug or ESC key > Support option?

To me it seems those options are the ones you need to use, why use the forums...unless you have made the topic in a bug related section of the forums?

Your ingame issue seems legit, just the way you go about it just doesn't seem the right way in my opinion.

  Scalpless

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10/08/12 2:02:13 AM#51
Originally posted by aligada87
Originally posted by Scalpless
Originally posted by aligada87

next time they should put it under code of conduct not to ask questions directly towards their dev because we simply don't like it. cause i did not see anything in their code of conduct that was similar to that lol. oh and i read all the code of conducts of mmos i play. also you can't make that analogy about that situation because i bought the game. thats like saying you bought a property and they still have a say in it and you cant practice your right. lol you just made me rofl with this comment

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/rules

<div rules"="">
  • Do not engage in staff call-outs. Using the words “ArenaNet” or any staff member’s name will not expedite the answer to your query.
 

so where does it say the infraction part if you decide to do so? 

"You agree that ArenaNet may take whatever steps it deems necessary to maintain a suitable forum environment at its sole discretion and without notice to you."

Really, it's common sense. If you break their code of conduct, they mod you.

  evolver1972

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10/08/12 2:02:41 AM#52
Originally posted by aligada87
Originally posted by Scalpless
Originally posted by aligada87

next time they should put it under code of conduct not to ask questions directly towards their dev because we simply don't like it. cause i did not see anything in their code of conduct that was similar to that lol. oh and i read all the code of conducts of mmos i play. also you can't make that analogy about that situation because i bought the game. thats like saying you bought a property and they still have a say in it and you cant practice your right. lol you just made me rofl with this comment

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/rules

<div rules"="">
  • Do not engage in staff call-outs. Using the words “ArenaNet” or any staff member’s name will not expedite the answer to your query.
 

so where does it say the infraction part if you decide to do so? i mean to recieve that type of punishment over my first offence lol. you just proved my point ty

"Forum moderators have full discretion to address any behavior that they feel is inappropriate. Your membership and participation in these forums is a privilege and not a right. ArenaNet reserves the right to suspend or terminate your access to these forums and/or to the game itself at any time for reasons that include, but are not necessarily limited to, your failure to abide by this Code of Conduct."

 

A few paragraphs above his quote.  It's all there if you take the time to read it.

You want me to pay to play a game I already paid for???

Be afraid.....The dragons are HERE!

  aligada87

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OP  10/08/12 2:03:03 AM#53
Originally posted by evolver1972
Originally posted by aligada87
Originally posted by evolver1972
Originally posted by aligada87
Originally posted by tawess

aligada87.. most games have a rule against "calling out" a dev for an answer... I am pretty sure they are aware of the issue and will give an answer as soon as they can.

 

So in essence you broke three rules

1: You called out a dev

2: You made a new thread about a pinned topic

3:  You topic did not contribute to the issue at hand. Rather it just restated that it was an issue, something that was very clear as it where.

 

You misstake is to think that YOU would get an answer just because you asked, and that ANet simply forgot to tell everybody or did not understand that the HAD to answer the question that they did not have an answer to. That being said i agree the wording is a bit harsh.

 

Enjoy your infraction with the warm glow of knowledge well earned.

so my question is. why was the other post deleted? answer that

Maybe because there is already a thread about that?

 

In fact, there is a sticky on the forums about all necro bugs, including minions here.

 

So, really, it seems you're just angry that you broke the rules on their forums and they busted you for it.

lol once again you don't see my point to this whole arguement and why the title is called what it is. you sir are a fanboy of gw2 or work for them lol

Right, I'm a fanboy because I point out the flaws in your arguments.

 

And, yes, Anet thinks they are the law in their forums and their games.  It's theirs, they are the law.  Don't like it?  Don't play.

lol i bet you have like 5 lvl 80s huh and like maxed crafting on all :)

  aligada87

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OP  10/08/12 2:05:27 AM#54
Originally posted by evolver1972
Originally posted by aligada87
Originally posted by Scalpless
Originally posted by aligada87

next time they should put it under code of conduct not to ask questions directly towards their dev because we simply don't like it. cause i did not see anything in their code of conduct that was similar to that lol. oh and i read all the code of conducts of mmos i play. also you can't make that analogy about that situation because i bought the game. thats like saying you bought a property and they still have a say in it and you cant practice your right. lol you just made me rofl with this comment

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/rules

<div rules"="">
  • Do not engage in staff call-outs. Using the words “ArenaNet” or any staff member’s name will not expedite the answer to your query.
 

so where does it say the infraction part if you decide to do so? i mean to recieve that type of punishment over my first offence lol. you just proved my point ty

"Forum moderators have full discretion to address any behavior that they feel is inappropriate. Your membership and participation in these forums is a privilege and not a right. ArenaNet reserves the right to suspend or terminate your access to these forums and/or to the game itself at any time for reasons that include, but are not necessarily limited to, your failure to abide by this Code of Conduct."

 

A few paragraphs above his quote.  It's all there if you take the time to read it.

you just proved my point that they think they are the law. they will practice their power whenever they feel like. and if someone speaks up dun dun dun banned. look at the title of the thread :) aka anets are mofos

  Blessings

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Posts: 67

10/08/12 2:08:20 AM#55

I feel my brain cells dying just for actually clicking on this crap. I normally don't comment on garbage like this, but this was extra special garbage, the kind you find sitting on the side of the road, that's been rotting for a few days under 100 degree weather.

 

Get over it. Buy a box of Kleenex's, a gallon of Chunky Monkey, and go stare at your account status screen until you pass out from exhaustion.

  evolver1972

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Posts: 1126

What is "real"? How do you define "real"?

10/08/12 2:10:53 AM#56
Originally posted by aligada87
Originally posted by evolver1972
Originally posted by aligada87
Originally posted by evolver1972
Originally posted by aligada87
Originally posted by tawess

aligada87.. most games have a rule against "calling out" a dev for an answer... I am pretty sure they are aware of the issue and will give an answer as soon as they can.

 

So in essence you broke three rules

1: You called out a dev

2: You made a new thread about a pinned topic

3:  You topic did not contribute to the issue at hand. Rather it just restated that it was an issue, something that was very clear as it where.

 

You misstake is to think that YOU would get an answer just because you asked, and that ANet simply forgot to tell everybody or did not understand that the HAD to answer the question that they did not have an answer to. That being said i agree the wording is a bit harsh.

 

Enjoy your infraction with the warm glow of knowledge well earned.

so my question is. why was the other post deleted? answer that

Maybe because there is already a thread about that?

 

In fact, there is a sticky on the forums about all necro bugs, including minions here.

 

So, really, it seems you're just angry that you broke the rules on their forums and they busted you for it.

lol once again you don't see my point to this whole arguement and why the title is called what it is. you sir are a fanboy of gw2 or work for them lol

Right, I'm a fanboy because I point out the flaws in your arguments.

 

And, yes, Anet thinks they are the law in their forums and their games.  It's theirs, they are the law.  Don't like it?  Don't play.

lol i bet you have like 5 lvl 80s huh and like maxed crafting on all :)

Umm...not that it has any bearing whatsoever:

 

1 lvl 56 Norn Necro, 40% map completion, Tailor level 100, Artificer level 74.

1 lvl 4 Asura Warrior, 3% map completion, no crafting.

 

But, hey, why not just change subjects when losing an argument.

You want me to pay to play a game I already paid for???

Be afraid.....The dragons are HERE!

  Nefera

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Joined: 4/22/12
Posts: 426

10/08/12 2:11:26 AM#57
In their forums, ArenaNet IS the law. I see nothing wrong with that. Don't like it? Don't use the forums.
  evolver1972

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What is "real"? How do you define "real"?

10/08/12 2:13:07 AM#58
Originally posted by aligada87
Originally posted by evolver1972
Originally posted by aligada87
Originally posted by Scalpless
Originally posted by aligada87

next time they should put it under code of conduct not to ask questions directly towards their dev because we simply don't like it. cause i did not see anything in their code of conduct that was similar to that lol. oh and i read all the code of conducts of mmos i play. also you can't make that analogy about that situation because i bought the game. thats like saying you bought a property and they still have a say in it and you cant practice your right. lol you just made me rofl with this comment

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/rules

<div rules"="">
  • Do not engage in staff call-outs. Using the words “ArenaNet” or any staff member’s name will not expedite the answer to your query.
 

so where does it say the infraction part if you decide to do so? i mean to recieve that type of punishment over my first offence lol. you just proved my point ty

"Forum moderators have full discretion to address any behavior that they feel is inappropriate. Your membership and participation in these forums is a privilege and not a right. ArenaNet reserves the right to suspend or terminate your access to these forums and/or to the game itself at any time for reasons that include, but are not necessarily limited to, your failure to abide by this Code of Conduct."

 

A few paragraphs above his quote.  It's all there if you take the time to read it.

you just proved my point that they think they are the law. they will practice their power whenever they feel like. and if someone speaks up dun dun dun banned. look at the title of the thread :) aka anets are mofos

They are the law in THEIR FORUMS!  What is so hard to understand about that?

 

Also, the issue you have with the minions is already listed in the necro thread.  So much for the banned for speaking up thing.

 

Besides, were you banned?  According to your OP here, you were just moderated.

You want me to pay to play a game I already paid for???

Be afraid.....The dragons are HERE!

  aligada87

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Joined: 7/24/11
Posts: 223

 
OP  10/08/12 2:14:43 AM#59
Originally posted by Blessings

I feel my brain cells dying just for actually clicking on this crap. I normally don't comment on garbage like this, but this was extra special garbage, the kind you find sitting on the side of the road, that's been rotting for a few days under 100 degree weather.

 

Get over it. Buy a box of Kleenex's, a gallon of Chunky Monkey, and go stare at your account status screen until you pass out from exhaustion.

lol well for you to take your time and read all 1-6 pages and reply with just an insult means you really have lots of time on your hands lol. the idea of you even commenting on the subject means you got interested because you decided to read the whole 1-6 pages. and even if you didn't read it all you still took your time to reply which sir is good garbage lol

  TheIronLegion

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Posts: 270

Act with wisdom, but act.

10/08/12 2:14:50 AM#60
Originally posted by observer
I've had several topics and posts deleted too.  The mods over there are over-zealous, compared to these forums and others.  So i understand where the OP is coming from.

Not necessarily. It is their forum and as such they more stringient rules than an open forum like this one. On this forum several games are discussed across a few different genres and sub-genres and a small force of mods moderate them all. They have to use a fairly loose(and strict on certain subjects) set of rules to help keep their boards clean. Arenanet has every right to remove a thread that negatively adresses someone within the company or the company itself. It's like if someone goes into Walmart or Best Buy and starts shouting non-sense about the company or even spouting internal secrets they can easily ask you to leave or have you removed. It is their place of business. While the forums aren't a tangible space they are part of arenanet's place of business as well as their game.

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