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  laserit

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10/05/12 1:21:42 PM#121

Well.... 2.7 million sold in a week tells me that the number must be pretty close to the na/eu subscriber base after the MoP release as I would imagine the vast majority would have purchased the Xpac. Makes me wonder how low na/eu subs were before the release.

 

I think the goose that layed the golden eggs, is coming into menopause.

 

Not saying the game is going to die or anything of the sort, but the golden years are definatley over. 

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  Bladestrom

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10/05/12 1:28:22 PM#122
Wrath: Vikings, wit but the game respected its own storyline and heritage.

Mop: question: does it respect it's heritage, does it treat itself seriously? If it doesn't take itself seriously then if obviously does not respect or take the avatars within that game seriously. Does blizzard value the desires of the existing loyal player base, or does blizzard care more about getting new players? Did existing players ask for the new talent model as it stands, was pets and pandas what the existing player base really wanted above all? Blizzard disgusts me on a personal and pfifessional level.

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  Bladestrom

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10/05/12 1:29:51 PM#123
Laserit you hit the nail on the head, look at server population etc, the real sub base Dow wow is prob max 4.5

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  Akumawraith

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Why is it said that the road to hell is paved with good intentions? Is there a shortage of bad ones?

10/05/12 1:36:45 PM#124

I think the telling point of all the sales figures and the controversy can be narrowed down to this:

Only 1/3 of the playerbase purchased MoP and even then they lost 1.1 million players in 3rd Quarter and as all of those who have played WoW since 2004 and since know... WoW always loses a large number of subs with the following few months.

It is very likely that for the first time in 6+ years the Subscription rate could drop below 9 million subscribers.. and lets not forget Blizz has been known to pad thier numbers so the 10 million or so it currently has could be false also.

Not to mention in 2015 Blizz is supposed to release Titan.. or whatever they are going to name the next Gen MMO they are working on. Simply put many of the players I deal with in the 4 Gaming Communities that I either run or am a member of are waiting for it. WoW is on its last xpac or two and has little life left in it for growth.

The players today are mostly under 20 and many of those wh were around from the beta days that I played with have moved on. I have watched a few of the old school guilds that were in excess of 100+ players that raided in Vanilla and TBC have disbanded/ Changed servers or have moved onto other games completely.

I currently do have a few months of WoW sub left. but im one of the players who for the first time in nearly 10 years am not playing at all. I hated the new talents from 5.0.4  pre MoP patch. I didnt care about the account wide mounts/achieves... hell they still havent fixed the BOA items being cross accounts/realm. The PokeWoW crap is not for me.. I left the pokemon world behind 12 years ago when my buddies kids picked it up at diamond and gold or some such crap.

Lastly The content for MoP is disappointing. It has fewer dungeons, Fewer Raids.. oh wait.. they added scenarios.. and who cared?

1. GW2 has Dynamic world events.. Blizz missed the boat;

2. Eden Eternal has 1man and party dungeons.. Blizz must have been asleep in class

3. Origins of Malu which isnt even out yet is developing an MMo where the players run the world.. what a concept.. Hello Blizz you there?

There are changes being made in the MMO world and Blizz seems to be out of touch.. pandas, though part of lore, were a touch late... and lacking...

 

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  Nadia

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10/05/12 1:40:40 PM#125
Originally posted by Akumawraith

Blizz has been known to pad thier numbers so the 10 million or so it currently has could be false also.

you have an example where blizzard has padded their numbers?

  Akumawraith

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Why is it said that the road to hell is paved with good intentions? Is there a shortage of bad ones?

10/05/12 1:54:07 PM#126
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by Akumawraith

Blizz has been known to pad thier numbers so the 10 million or so it currently has could be false also.

you have an example where blizzard has padded their numbers?

In the 15+ year I have played Blizz games I have only known them to be open about anything they may have done wrong only once. and that was this year when they got hacked. So evidence? no hard evidence will ever be found. But considering they were at 10 mill , lost 1.1 mill and are still claiming 10mill +? Tell me where it makes sense?

 

 

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Playing: WoT and anything else to break the boredom until something better comes out.

Tired of: Linear Quest games, Dailies, and Dumbed down games

Anticipating:Star Citizen,Citadel of Sorcery

  User Deleted
10/05/12 1:59:51 PM#127
Originally posted by Akumawraith
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by Akumawraith

Blizz has been known to pad thier numbers so the 10 million or so it currently has could be false also.

you have an example where blizzard has padded their numbers?

In the 15+ year I have played Blizz games I have only known them to be open about anything they may have done wrong only once. and that was this year when they got hacked. So evidence? no hard evidence will ever be found. But considering they were at 10 mill , lost 1.1 mill and are still claiming 10mill +? Tell me where it makes sense?

Well, from what I remember, they lost 1.1 million roughly about a month before MoP released. SO I would presume that they regained about the same amount from the MoP sales.

  rygard49

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10/05/12 2:10:32 PM#128
Originally posted by Bladestrom
Wrath: Vikings, wit but the game respected its own storyline and heritage.

Mop: question: does it respect it's heritage, does it treat itself seriously? If it doesn't take itself seriously then if obviously does not respect or take the avatars within that game seriously. Does blizzard value the desires of the existing loyal player base, or does blizzard care more about getting new players? Did existing players ask for the new talent model as it stands, was pets and pandas what the existing player base really wanted above all? Blizzard disgusts me on a personal and pfifessional level.

Players have been asking to be Pandarens since TBC announced it would have new races. Pets have been in the game since release, they're just now doing something fun with them.

I think any subscription based company knows that customer retention is a greater priority than gaining new customers. Don't pretend their plan is to alienate all their current customers in order to attract a new generation, that's just silly.

The game has always been tongue in cheek. Always.

Just out of curiosity, what's your profession?

  FrodoFragins

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10/05/12 2:11:04 PM#129
Originally posted by laserit

Well.... 2.7 million sold in a week tells me that the number must be pretty close to the na/eu subscriber base after the MoP release as I would imagine the vast majority would have purchased the Xpac. Makes me wonder how low na/eu subs were before the release.

 

I think the goose that layed the golden eggs, is coming into menopause.

 

Not saying the game is going to die or anything of the sort, but the golden years are definatley over. 

Well, the Cata sales added 1.4 million between day 1 and the one month mark.  That tells me we need to wait about a month to get a better handle on US/EU sub numbers.

 

I can't imagine there is a double digit % of players that play WOW but stay behind the current expansion.

 

I think WOW might be able to grow again, but it would require changes that would be more likely to alienate the players, such as massive engine overhauls.  They are crazy not to already be work on WOW2.  But they like to keep the number of projects they are working on managable and probably have their MMO hopes tied to Titan.

  FrodoFragins

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10/05/12 2:13:11 PM#130
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by Akumawraith

Blizz has been known to pad thier numbers so the 10 million or so it currently has could be false also.

you have an example where blizzard has padded their numbers?

Every time they use the word "subscriber".  I'm pretty sure they include anyone that played even just one hour in a chinese internet cafe in the last month if not the last quarter.

 

  rygard49

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10/05/12 2:13:36 PM#131
Originally posted by Akumawraith
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by Akumawraith

Blizz has been known to pad thier numbers so the 10 million or so it currently has could be false also.

you have an example where blizzard has padded their numbers?

In the 15+ year I have played Blizz games I have only known them to be open about anything they may have done wrong only once. and that was this year when they got hacked. So evidence? no hard evidence will ever be found. But considering they were at 10 mill , lost 1.1 mill and are still claiming 10mill +? Tell me where it makes sense?

So, when you say they've been "known" to pad their numbers, that's really just an ethereal assumption on your part, with no basis in fact. In other words, bullshit.

  Omnifish

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10/05/12 3:51:22 PM#132
Originally posted by Zylaxx
Originally posted by Truelevel
How much more content will WoW have in the future,,, Can they keep it up?

No because pretty soon everyone will have leveled up all the needed faction and then be on the sidelines waiting once every 9 months for the next patch.

As in how they are with GW2 now?

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  Thomas2006

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10/05/12 3:58:07 PM#133


Originally posted by Omnifish

Originally posted by Zylaxx

Originally posted by Truelevel How much more content will WoW have in the future,,, Can they keep it up?
No because pretty soon everyone will have leveled up all the needed faction and then be on the sidelines waiting once every 9 months for the next patch.
As in how they are with GW2 now?

FYI for the other poster that said it will be 9 months for the next patch. 5.1 is about to goto the test server within the next week or two. If all goes well within the next few weeks / end of month 5.1 will be out. And its a fairly big content patch to boot.

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  laserit

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10/05/12 4:10:13 PM#134
Originally posted by Thomas2006

 


Originally posted by Omnifish

Originally posted by Zylaxx

Originally posted by Truelevel How much more content will WoW have in the future,,, Can they keep it up?
No because pretty soon everyone will have leveled up all the needed faction and then be on the sidelines waiting once every 9 months for the next patch.
As in how they are with GW2 now?

 

FYI for the other poster that said it will be 9 months for the next patch. 5.1 is about to goto the test server within the next week or two. If all goes well within the next few weeks / end of month 5.1 will be out. And its a fairly big content patch to boot.

I sincerely hope Blizzard is scrambiling to keep their customer's (I'm no longer one of them) engaged and well fed, giving them something for that $15 a month. Hopefully the days of shameless milking are a thing of the past.

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  Thomas2006

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10/05/12 4:20:38 PM#135


Originally posted by laserit

Originally posted by Thomas2006  

Originally posted by Omnifish

Originally posted by Zylaxx

Originally posted by Truelevel How much more content will WoW have in the future,,, Can they keep it up?
No because pretty soon everyone will have leveled up all the needed faction and then be on the sidelines waiting once every 9 months for the next patch.
As in how they are with GW2 now?
  FYI for the other poster that said it will be 9 months for the next patch. 5.1 is about to goto the test server within the next week or two. If all goes well within the next few weeks / end of month 5.1 will be out. And its a fairly big content patch to boot.
I sincerely hope Blizzard is scrambiling to keep their customer's (I'm no longer one of them) engaged and well fed, giving them something for that $15 a month. Hopefully the days of shameless milking are a thing of the past.

I agree with you. There content releases in the past was bad. Noone will deny that 5+ months between content addition is just too much.

If they can stick with every other month or at most every 3 months that would be fine as long as there is some meat to the patchs and not just here is a small quest hub and some rep grinds. See you in 3 months.

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  Ozmodan

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10/05/12 4:40:19 PM#136
Originally posted by Aori
Originally posted by Teala
I and my partner still haven't bought Mist of Pandaria and we're letting our subs go this month.    We did the Mist beta and didn't like the changes they made to the talent trees or the cross character achievements.   That means that for the first time since 2004, neither of us will have a WoW account.    We did like the new Panda's and Pandaria, we just didn't like the changes that came with it to the core game play.   Blizzard lost two fans here.  I wonder how many others feel as we do?

People are warming upto the new talent setup, it is better unless you are stuck in the illusion the other system offered choice. As for the account wide achievements, you won't find many people who are upset with that and quite honestly why would you be. If you like panda's and pandaria you should really pick up the game.. you're missing out.

Nonsense.  The other talent system offered at least a lilttle choice, this offers so little choice it is not worth mentioning.  You probably won't see many people playing Wow that are upset with it because a large number of us are not playing it because they have so dumbed down the game it offers zero challenge any more.

For the person above, the chinese do not have this expansion yet, hence why the disparity between 2.7 mil purchases and 10 million playing.

  Omnifish

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10/05/12 5:34:48 PM#137
Originally posted by Thomas2006

 


Originally posted by Omnifish

Originally posted by Zylaxx

Originally posted by Truelevel How much more content will WoW have in the future,,, Can they keep it up?
No because pretty soon everyone will have leveled up all the needed faction and then be on the sidelines waiting once every 9 months for the next patch.
As in how they are with GW2 now?

 

FYI for the other poster that said it will be 9 months for the next patch. 5.1 is about to goto the test server within the next week or two. If all goes well within the next few weeks / end of month 5.1 will be out. And its a fairly big content patch to boot.

So I hear. I'm just stating that argument about about how slow Cata content was released, (and it was terrible), is sort of hyprocritical from GW2 fans considering how many, 'bored', threads we have on those forums right now.

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  Omnifish

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10/05/12 5:38:10 PM#138
Originally posted by Ozmodan
Originally posted by Aori
Originally posted by Teala
I and my partner still haven't bought Mist of Pandaria and we're letting our subs go this month.    We did the Mist beta and didn't like the changes they made to the talent trees or the cross character achievements.   That means that for the first time since 2004, neither of us will have a WoW account.    We did like the new Panda's and Pandaria, we just didn't like the changes that came with it to the core game play.   Blizzard lost two fans here.  I wonder how many others feel as we do?

People are warming upto the new talent setup, it is better unless you are stuck in the illusion the other system offered choice. As for the account wide achievements, you won't find many people who are upset with that and quite honestly why would you be. If you like panda's and pandaria you should really pick up the game.. you're missing out.

Nonsense.  The other talent system offered at least a lilttle choice, this offers so little choice it is not worth mentioning.  You probably won't see many people playing Wow that are upset with it because a large number of us are not playing it because they have so dumbed down the game it offers zero challenge any more.

For the person above, the chinese do not have this expansion yet, hence why the disparity between 2.7 mil purchases and 10 million playing.

Have you actually used it or are you just stating this because someone on here told you so?

Does this talent system offer a ton of choices? No, but if offers more then before when best spec for this/that ruled.

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  jym_nils

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10/06/12 6:16:16 AM#139

considering that 500.000 are bots and that they will be baned in 3 months and buy again we can easily sutract 500k to that number

, and the remaining 2 millons are obsesive 2+ account boots players, i guess only 1 millon bough or less real humans adquired the game

 

  Akumawraith

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10/06/12 6:19:11 AM#140
Originally posted by rygard49
Originally posted by Akumawraith
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by Akumawraith

Blizz has been known to pad thier numbers so the 10 million or so it currently has could be false also.

you have an example where blizzard has padded their numbers?

In the 15+ year I have played Blizz games I have only known them to be open about anything they may have done wrong only once. and that was this year when they got hacked. So evidence? no hard evidence will ever be found. But considering they were at 10 mill , lost 1.1 mill and are still claiming 10mill +? Tell me where it makes sense?

So, when you say they've been "known" to pad their numbers, that's really just an ethereal assumption on your part, with no basis in fact. In other words, bullshit.

Bullshit? possibly, but not probable. You see, Though I have played Blizz games since Warcraft Orcs and Humans till present day I have never been classified as a fan boy of them. Now also note that supposedly in all the years of Players accounts getting randomly hacked in World of warcraft,

Not once in its first 8 years did Blizz ever announce or admit that they had security issues. When ever players called the Customer service to find out why thier accounts were frozen or in many cases hacked for one reason or another, Blizzards standard response was to place blame on the player.

back in 2006 I was away on business in China and when I came back after a week or so away I went to log into my account and couldnt. I called Blizzard and they told me that I should check for third party programs on my system, Delete the WTF and so on... Eventually I was told to not be giving my Account Information out to friends and family.

To this day I still have never given my account information to anyone nor will I ever and I was curious as to why the Reps wouldnt take it seriously at the time. and it was simple. If it were publicly known that players were being hacked then Blizz would have some serious answering to do. So they claimed all was well, it was all the players fault and thus the rumor mills started churning.

but anyway, the point is If you believe businesses like Blizzard will give you 100% of the truth about thier numbers of active accounts vs accounts that are just sitting till time runs out you are naive. Call it Bullshit all you want.. makes no difference. Businesses never give you the truth, get over it.

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