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The World of Warcraft community site has been updated with the news that the first Mists of Pandaria raid, Mogu’shan Vaults, will be opening in stages throughout the month of October and into early November.
Read more on the World of Warcraft community site. Associate Editor: MMORPG.com |
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10/03/12 10:29:36 AM#2
And they will all be cleared within the first month after opening.... |
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10/03/12 10:31:20 AM#3
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion try today http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2947-Tanking-Hotfixes-Patch-5-0-5-Hotfixes-Season-12-MMR-Change |
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10/03/12 10:34:00 AM#4
Originally posted by Sciva That is so sad, this game is a hollow shell of what it once was. No challenge at all. |
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10/03/12 10:40:13 AM#5
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion So because one of the best raid guilds on the planet cleared the normal version of the first wing of T14, something which they practiced on the PTR for months...the game is a former shell of itself? Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't this always been the case with all normal mode raids...like...ever? Heroic mode (the content made for raiders) hasn't opened yet, isn't it a little too early to complain about the game being too easy? lol |
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10/03/12 10:43:07 AM#6
Originally posted by doodphace You stand corrected, and obviously never played during Vanilla when raids actually took large periods of time for guilds to clear. I'm guessing you didn't start playing till Wrath or better, when the dumbing down of the game was already in full bloom. |
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10/03/12 10:44:40 AM#7
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion Big shock here. Somebody doesn't know what they are talking about. *Gasp* The truth is only a very small % will down the raid easily. In fact, most of the player base never will. |
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10/03/12 10:46:38 AM#8
Originally posted by BrooksTech I'm an ex member of Vis Maior from Bonechewer, I probably know more about this game than you or anyone you associate with ever will. There was a very clear reason why we called it quits to raiding in this game, and it wasn't because it was too hard. Do a google and see what we accomplished during our time in WoW, we were responsible for numerous world firsts and noteworthy accomplishments, all back when they actually meant something. |
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10/03/12 10:46:40 AM#9
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion as long as the dungeon is still open by the time I get there in about three months time. |
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10/03/12 10:56:29 AM#10
Originally posted by BrooksTech You make a blanket statement about me "not knowing what I am talking about". I refute your statement by explaining some background on myself and things I was part of when I played, lending credibility to myself as an experienced raider who was very involved in the competitive vanilla raiding scene. And you respond with a bitter, spite laced retort that basically calls me a "no lifer". Thanks for proving my point completely... |
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10/03/12 10:57:09 AM#11
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion You pretty muched confirmed my point with your sarcasm....there was only 1 mode in vanilla, which was =/- Heroic mode today. Wow introduced "heroic modes" in Wotlk, and believe me, normal modes were being cleared by top guilds in the world immeditly....that doesnt mean "content was dumbed down", it means there was a new, easier verion of the content, made for more casual players, that dropped crapier loot etc. It still took most, even world first guilds, months to progress though heroic modes (again, which is the targeted raiding for Raiders). Just because Blizzard added an easier version of each raid, doesnt mean there is no challenge.....you are basically saying any game ever released is too easy, because you chose "easy" from the menu, instead of Hard. Thats why Blizz managed to stay 9+ million strong almost a decade after release, there is conent for everybody, those who want easy quick fun (LFR/Normal), and those that want hardcore beat your head on your keyboard raiding (Heroic). You really cannot argue with that lol |
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10/03/12 10:58:42 AM#12
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion Raid was open for months in beta, to some guilds this is not new they knew all the encounters. End off. |
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10/03/12 11:00:48 AM#13
Originally posted by doodphace I disagree entirely, but hey, whatever floats your boat. |
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10/03/12 11:01:30 AM#14
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion No. the truth is, you know nothing about my own history with WoW. And your comments are very funny because of that. |
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10/03/12 11:11:22 AM#15
Kael'thas Sunstrider was beaten on May 25th 2007 (the eye, a raid that shipped WITH TBC, which came out on 16 January 2007.) Just food for thought on why people are slightly annoyed that this was cleared on the first day. |
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10/03/12 11:25:21 AM#16
I dont play WOW anymore, but all I gotta say is wtf??? the expansion didnt even have a raid launch with it?
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10/03/12 11:30:51 AM#17
Originally posted by doodphace No, because they have to artificially stagger raid content because it's too easy and if they didn't, people would finish this games content in a month or two (though we both know even less for some). They also know it's going to be ages until the next expansion. There's something inherently wrong with their designs when they have to resort to this. |
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10/03/12 11:34:28 AM#18
Why exactly would I care about someone ELSE clearing it? I'm only interested in myself clearing it, which is not today.
0___x "I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave". |
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10/03/12 11:37:37 AM#19
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion Man, you can't just disagree with facts. 0___x "I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave". |
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10/03/12 11:40:16 AM#20
A large majority must surely be absolutely sick to death with the raiding model by now, this is a carbon copy of the same process problems and arguments you see every single wow release, it's nauseating!
rpg/mmorg history: Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW (9500 hrs on main mage)> oblivion > LOTR (480 Hunter) > Rift (230 hours mage) > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(350 elementalist) Now playing GW2/Diablo 3/Rift Waiting Archeage. |
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