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  SBFord

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Joined: 6/28/10
Posts: 9219

 
10/03/12 9:58:09 AM#1

The World of Warcraft community site has been updated with the news that the first Mists of Pandaria raid, Mogu’shan Vaults, will be opening in stages throughout the month of October and into early November. 

Here is the current schedule for these Raid releases:

Tuesday, Oct. 2 - Normal Mogu’shan Vaults

Tueday, Oct 9 - Heroic Mogu'shan Vaults and first half of Mogu'shan Vaults on Raid Finder

Tuesday Oct. 16 - Second half of Mogu'shan Vaults on Raid Finder

Tuesday, Oct. 30 - Normal Heart of Fear and Normal Terrace of Endless Spring (Must clear Heart of Fear first) with Heroic and Raid finder versions unlocking one week later

Read more on the World of Warcraft community site.

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  GolbezTheLion

Novice Member

Joined: 9/27/12
Posts: 219

10/03/12 10:29:36 AM#2

And they will all be cleared within the first month after opening....

 
  Sciva

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/08/07
Posts: 241

10/03/12 10:31:20 AM#3
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

And they will all be cleared within the first month after opening....

 

try today http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2947-Tanking-Hotfixes-Patch-5-0-5-Hotfixes-Season-12-MMR-Change

  GolbezTheLion

Novice Member

Joined: 9/27/12
Posts: 219

10/03/12 10:34:00 AM#4
Originally posted by Sciva
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

And they will all be cleared within the first month after opening....

 

try today http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2947-Tanking-Hotfixes-Patch-5-0-5-Hotfixes-Season-12-MMR-Change

That is so sad, this game is a hollow shell of what it once was.

No challenge at all.

  doodphace

Elite Member

Joined: 6/19/12
Posts: 407

10/03/12 10:40:13 AM#5
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by Sciva
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

And they will all be cleared within the first month after opening....

 

try today http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2947-Tanking-Hotfixes-Patch-5-0-5-Hotfixes-Season-12-MMR-Change

That is so sad, this game is a hollow shell of what it once was.

No challenge at all.

So because one of the best raid guilds on the planet cleared the normal version of the first wing of T14, something which they practiced on the PTR for months...the game is a former shell of itself?

Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't this always been the case with all normal mode raids...like...ever?

Heroic mode (the content made for raiders) hasn't opened yet, isn't it a little too early to complain about the game being too easy? lol

  GolbezTheLion

Novice Member

Joined: 9/27/12
Posts: 219

10/03/12 10:43:07 AM#6
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by Sciva
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

And they will all be cleared within the first month after opening....

 

try today http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2947-Tanking-Hotfixes-Patch-5-0-5-Hotfixes-Season-12-MMR-Change

That is so sad, this game is a hollow shell of what it once was.

No challenge at all.

So because one of the best raid guilds on the planet cleared the normal version of the first wing of T14, something which they practiced on the PTR for months...the game is a former shell of itself?

Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't this always been the case with all normal mode raids...like...ever?

Heroic mode (the content made for raiders) hasn't opened yet, isn't it a little too early to complain about the game being too easy? lol

You stand corrected, and obviously never played during Vanilla when raids actually took large periods of time for guilds to clear.

I'm guessing you didn't start playing till Wrath or better, when the dumbing down of the game was already in full bloom.

  BrooksTech

Novice Member

Joined: 6/10/11
Posts: 122

10/03/12 10:44:40 AM#7
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by Sciva
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

And they will all be cleared within the first month after opening....

 

try today http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2947-Tanking-Hotfixes-Patch-5-0-5-Hotfixes-Season-12-MMR-Change

That is so sad, this game is a hollow shell of what it once was.

No challenge at all.

Big shock here. Somebody doesn't know what they are talking about. *Gasp*

The truth is only a very small % will down the raid easily.  In fact, most of the player base never will.

  GolbezTheLion

Novice Member

Joined: 9/27/12
Posts: 219

10/03/12 10:46:38 AM#8
Originally posted by BrooksTech
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by Sciva
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

And they will all be cleared within the first month after opening....

 

try today http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2947-Tanking-Hotfixes-Patch-5-0-5-Hotfixes-Season-12-MMR-Change

That is so sad, this game is a hollow shell of what it once was.

No challenge at all.

Big shock here. Somebody doesn't know what they are talking about. *Gasp*

The truth is only a very small % will down the raid easily.  In fact, most of the player base never will.

I'm an ex member of Vis Maior from Bonechewer, I probably know more about this game than you or anyone you associate with ever will.

There was a very clear reason why we called it quits to raiding in this game, and it wasn't because it was too hard. Do a google and see what we accomplished during our time in WoW, we were responsible for numerous world firsts and noteworthy accomplishments, all back when they actually meant something.

  Muppetier

Advanced Member

Joined: 6/05/09
Posts: 211

10/03/12 10:46:40 AM#9
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

And they will all be cleared within the first month after opening....

 

as long as the dungeon is still open by the time I get there in about three months time.

  GolbezTheLion

Novice Member

Joined: 9/27/12
Posts: 219

10/03/12 10:56:29 AM#10
Originally posted by BrooksTech
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by BrooksTech
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by Sciva
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

And they will all be cleared within the first month after opening....

 

try today http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2947-Tanking-Hotfixes-Patch-5-0-5-Hotfixes-Season-12-MMR-Change

That is so sad, this game is a hollow shell of what it once was.

No challenge at all.

Big shock here. Somebody doesn't know what they are talking about. *Gasp*

The truth is only a very small % will down the raid easily.  In fact, most of the player base never will.

I'm an ex member of Vis Maior from Bonechewer, I probably know more about this game than you or anyone you associate with ever will.

There was a very clear reason why we called it quits to raiding in this game, and it wasn't because it was too hard. Do a google and see what we accomplished during our time in WoW, we were responsible for numerous world firsts and noteworthy accomplishments, all back when they actually meant something.

[mod edit]

You make a blanket statement about me "not knowing what I am talking about".

I refute your statement by explaining some background on myself and things I was part of when I played, lending credibility to myself as an experienced raider who was very involved in the competitive vanilla raiding scene.

And you respond with a bitter, spite laced retort that basically calls me a "no lifer".

Thanks for proving my point completely...

  doodphace

Elite Member

Joined: 6/19/12
Posts: 407

10/03/12 10:57:09 AM#11
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by Sciva
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

And they will all be cleared within the first month after opening....

 

try today http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2947-Tanking-Hotfixes-Patch-5-0-5-Hotfixes-Season-12-MMR-Change

That is so sad, this game is a hollow shell of what it once was.

No challenge at all.

So because one of the best raid guilds on the planet cleared the normal version of the first wing of T14, something which they practiced on the PTR for months...the game is a former shell of itself?

Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't this always been the case with all normal mode raids...like...ever?

Heroic mode (the content made for raiders) hasn't opened yet, isn't it a little too early to complain about the game being too easy? lol

You stand corrected, and obviously never played during Vanilla when raids actually took large periods of time for guilds to clear.

I'm guessing you didn't start playing till Wrath or better, when the dumbing down of the game was already in full bloom.

You pretty muched confirmed my point with your sarcasm....there was only 1 mode in vanilla, which was =/- Heroic mode today. Wow introduced "heroic modes" in Wotlk, and believe me, normal modes were being cleared by top guilds in the world immeditly....that doesnt mean "content was dumbed down", it means there was a new, easier verion of the content, made for more casual players, that dropped crapier loot etc. It still took most, even world first guilds, months to progress though heroic modes (again, which is the targeted raiding for Raiders).

Just because Blizzard added an easier version of each raid, doesnt mean there is no challenge.....you are basically saying any game ever released is too easy, because you chose "easy" from the menu, instead of Hard.

Thats why Blizz managed to stay 9+ million strong almost a decade after release, there is conent for everybody, those who want easy quick fun (LFR/Normal), and those that want hardcore beat your head on your keyboard raiding (Heroic).

You really cannot argue with that lol

  expresso

Tipster

Joined: 3/10/10
Posts: 1739

10/03/12 10:58:42 AM#12
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by Sciva
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

And they will all be cleared within the first month after opening....

 

try today http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2947-Tanking-Hotfixes-Patch-5-0-5-Hotfixes-Season-12-MMR-Change

That is so sad, this game is a hollow shell of what it once was.

No challenge at all.

So because one of the best raid guilds on the planet cleared the normal version of the first wing of T14, something which they practiced on the PTR for months...the game is a former shell of itself?

Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't this always been the case with all normal mode raids...like...ever?

Heroic mode (the content made for raiders) hasn't opened yet, isn't it a little too early to complain about the game being too easy? lol

You stand corrected, and obviously never played during Vanilla when raids actually took large periods of time for guilds to clear.

I'm guessing you didn't start playing till Wrath or better, when the dumbing down of the game was already in full bloom.

Raid was open for months in beta, to some guilds this is not new they knew all the encounters.  End off.

  GolbezTheLion

Novice Member

Joined: 9/27/12
Posts: 219

10/03/12 11:00:48 AM#13
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by Sciva
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

And they will all be cleared within the first month after opening....

 

try today http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2947-Tanking-Hotfixes-Patch-5-0-5-Hotfixes-Season-12-MMR-Change

That is so sad, this game is a hollow shell of what it once was.

No challenge at all.

So because one of the best raid guilds on the planet cleared the normal version of the first wing of T14, something which they practiced on the PTR for months...the game is a former shell of itself?

Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't this always been the case with all normal mode raids...like...ever?

Heroic mode (the content made for raiders) hasn't opened yet, isn't it a little too early to complain about the game being too easy? lol

You stand corrected, and obviously never played during Vanilla when raids actually took large periods of time for guilds to clear.

I'm guessing you didn't start playing till Wrath or better, when the dumbing down of the game was already in full bloom.

You pretty muched confirmed my point with your sarcasm....there was only 1 mode in vanilla, which was =/- Heroic mode today. Wow introduced "heroic modes" in Wotlk, and believe me, normal modes were being cleared by top guilds in the world immeditly....that doesnt mean "content was dumbed down", it means there was a new, easier verion of the content, made for more casual players, that dropped crapier loot etc. It still took most, even world first guilds, months to progress though heroic modes (again, which is the targeted raiding for Raiders).

Just because Blizzard added an easier version of each raid, doesnt mean there is no challenge.....you are basically saying any game ever released is too easy, because you chose "easy" from the menu, instead of Hard.

Thats why Blizz managed to stay 9+ million strong almost a decade after release, there is conent for everybody, those who want easy quick fun (LFR/Normal), and those that want hardcore beat your head on your keyboard raiding (Heroic).

I disagree entirely, but hey, whatever floats your boat.

  BrooksTech

Novice Member

Joined: 6/10/11
Posts: 122

10/03/12 11:01:30 AM#14
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by BrooksTech
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by BrooksTech
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by Sciva
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

And they will all be cleared within the first month after opening....

 

try today http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2947-Tanking-Hotfixes-Patch-5-0-5-Hotfixes-Season-12-MMR-Change

That is so sad, this game is a hollow shell of what it once was.

No challenge at all.

Big shock here. Somebody doesn't know what they are talking about. *Gasp*

The truth is only a very small % will down the raid easily.  In fact, most of the player base never will.

I'm an ex member of Vis Maior from Bonechewer, I probably know more about this game than you or anyone you associate with ever will.

There was a very clear reason why we called it quits to raiding in this game, and it wasn't because it was too hard. Do a google and see what we accomplished during our time in WoW, we were responsible for numerous world firsts and noteworthy accomplishments, all back when they actually meant something.

[mod edit]

You make a blanket statement about me "not knowing what I am talking about".

I refute your statement by explaining some background on myself and things I was part of when I played, lending credibility to myself as an experienced raider who was very involved in the competitive vanilla raiding scene.

And you respond with a bitter, spite laced retort that basically calls me a "no lifer".

Thanks for proving my point completely...

No.  the truth is, you know nothing about my own  history with WoW.  And your comments are very funny because of that.

  Sciva

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/08/07
Posts: 241

10/03/12 11:11:22 AM#15

Kael'thas Sunstrider was beaten on May 25th 2007 (the eye, a raid that shipped WITH TBC, which came out on 16 January 2007.)

Just food for thought on why people are slightly annoyed that this was cleared on the first day.

  Myrdynn

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/25/07
Posts: 875

10/03/12 11:25:21 AM#16

I dont play WOW anymore, but all I gotta say is wtf??? the expansion didnt even have a raid launch with it?

 

  Valkaern

Novice Member

Joined: 7/23/03
Posts: 477

10/03/12 11:30:51 AM#17
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by Sciva
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

And they will all be cleared within the first month after opening....

 

try today http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2947-Tanking-Hotfixes-Patch-5-0-5-Hotfixes-Season-12-MMR-Change

That is so sad, this game is a hollow shell of what it once was.

No challenge at all.

So because one of the best raid guilds on the planet cleared the normal version of the first wing of T14, something which they practiced on the PTR for months...the game is a former shell of itself?

Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't this always been the case with all normal mode raids...like...ever?

Heroic mode (the content made for raiders) hasn't opened yet, isn't it a little too early to complain about the game being too easy? lol

No, because they have to artificially stagger raid content because it's too easy and if they didn't, people would finish this games content in a month or two (though we both know even less for some).

They also know it's going to be ages until the next expansion. There's something inherently wrong with their designs when they have to resort to this.

  BizkitNL

Old School

Joined: 12/29/02
Posts: 2157

"Free to play, pay to win""

10/03/12 11:34:28 AM#18
Why exactly would I care about someone ELSE clearing it? I'm only interested in myself clearing it, which is not today.

I wanted to type something really smart as a reply to this subject, but the Scarlet Blade ad got me distracted and I forgot what I wanted to type.

  BizkitNL

Old School

Joined: 12/29/02
Posts: 2157

"Free to play, pay to win""

10/03/12 11:37:37 AM#19
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by doodphace
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by Sciva
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

And they will all be cleared within the first month after opening....

 

try today http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2947-Tanking-Hotfixes-Patch-5-0-5-Hotfixes-Season-12-MMR-Change

That is so sad, this game is a hollow shell of what it once was.

No challenge at all.

So because one of the best raid guilds on the planet cleared the normal version of the first wing of T14, something which they practiced on the PTR for months...the game is a former shell of itself?

Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't this always been the case with all normal mode raids...like...ever?

Heroic mode (the content made for raiders) hasn't opened yet, isn't it a little too early to complain about the game being too easy? lol

You stand corrected, and obviously never played during Vanilla when raids actually took large periods of time for guilds to clear.

I'm guessing you didn't start playing till Wrath or better, when the dumbing down of the game was already in full bloom.

You pretty muched confirmed my point with your sarcasm....there was only 1 mode in vanilla, which was =/- Heroic mode today. Wow introduced "heroic modes" in Wotlk, and believe me, normal modes were being cleared by top guilds in the world immeditly....that doesnt mean "content was dumbed down", it means there was a new, easier verion of the content, made for more casual players, that dropped crapier loot etc. It still took most, even world first guilds, months to progress though heroic modes (again, which is the targeted raiding for Raiders).

Just because Blizzard added an easier version of each raid, doesnt mean there is no challenge.....you are basically saying any game ever released is too easy, because you chose "easy" from the menu, instead of Hard.

Thats why Blizz managed to stay 9+ million strong almost a decade after release, there is conent for everybody, those who want easy quick fun (LFR/Normal), and those that want hardcore beat your head on your keyboard raiding (Heroic).

I disagree entirely, but hey, whatever floats your boat.

Man, you can't just disagree with facts.

I wanted to type something really smart as a reply to this subject, but the Scarlet Blade ad got me distracted and I forgot what I wanted to type.

  Bladestrom

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10/03/12 11:40:16 AM#20
A large majority must surely be absolutely sick to death with the raiding model by now, this is a carbon copy of the same process problems and arguments you see every single wow release, it's nauseating!

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