Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Originally posted by hotix
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You still dont understand what casual means.  As stated before, the game is mostly for the casual gamers (which is a majorrity) and for people that can live without carrots.

 

for those people there is more then enough content when they reach level 80.  Because the content is there if you look for it. But then some people are just to blind to see the  content when that isnt marked with uber gear and other power stuff.

 

I have 200 hours played whis like 40 hours a weeky, (would probably get me marked as addicted by most non hardcore gamers) and like Aerowyn i have several alts and my main is not at 80. And i am enjoying every minute of those.  Those hours make your comments about not being level 80 yet look totally out of order. You dont seem to grasp the fact that people play games to have fun and not as a leveling geargrindign machine. Leveling is to many people of no importance at all, they are enjoying everything thats in the game and wayting for you around the next corner.

 

But then, as most content is not marked on your maps be hearts, some people will probably never find it.

For the non progression based, casual crowd GW2 is an amazing and has a plethora of content.  Ive been 80 for close to 3 weeks now even though I am in full Exotics (spend $150 on gems and converted them to gold) I still am only sitting on 71% world map completion (my main goal for 2 weeks now) and havent even scratched the surface of WvW, crafting, or Karma/dungeon farming for unique armor/weapon skins.  Dont even mention the allmighty Legendary.  In my estimation at my meager play time investment of 3-4 hours per day I still have at least a year of quality and rewarding content.

And still no word about minion AI for the necromancer >:( You don't wanna know how many times these minions just stand there when I'm attacking or how many times they're on a killing spree killing everything they see when I'm just walking around.

Necro minion AI sucks balls!

Originally posted by observer

Originally posted by prpshrt

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by prpshrt

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by prpshrt
Still waiting for the update that has: Second half of game now released. 

huh?

Ring of fire isles, magumma wastes, crystal desert, far shiverpeaks, magus falls, isle of janthir, woodland cascades... That stuff...

so because they have plenty of room for expansion the game is only half a game?... makes a lot of sense

I define an expansion as a whole new map. You know, like with cantha in factions and elona in nightfall? 

Huh. Apparently I've painted a target at the back of my head for trying to be honest.

So Lotro was a half finished game?  They didn't release with mines of moria, rohan, etc.  WoW was a half released game too?  They didn't release with Northrend, Outland, Pandaria..  Oh, let's not forget Swtor either, since they didn't release with all the planets and galaxies..

Sorry, but you weren't being honest, you were just expecting too much and being impatient.

Idk about lotro but do you remember seeing outland, pandaria, northrend as part of the original map? I certainly do not. I'm not being impatient. I saw these regions in beta and expected them to be released given that I was required to have at least 25 GB of space. I'm certainly not expecting too much given what I saw and read. PvE straight up ends with Orr and frost sound after you hit 80. For someone like me who doesn't give two craps about PvP this is disappointing. You could argue that WoW only had level 85 with the twilight place but they made up for it with HUGE lower level areas. I'm not defending WoW but seeing as you brought it in for comparison I will too. I powered through levels 1 - 80 by just being a casual player. If anything compare it to the content that GW1 had once you hit level 20.  I hope I've convinced you. If not you're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine. Good day. 

Originally posted by prpshrt

Idk about lotro but do you remember seeing outland, pandaria, northrend as part of the original map? I certainly do not. I'm not being impatient. I saw these regions in beta and expected them to be released given that I was required to have at least 25 GB of space. 

Everquest a mmo that released in 1999

had Serpents Spine on the original map -- a region that wasnt available until 7 years later

map of norrath

http://personalpages.manchester.ac.uk/staff/m.dodge/cybergeography/atlas/everquest_all_large.jpg

heres an old post from 2002 about Everquest

http://otherworlds31279.yuku.com/topic/960/Unknown-zones-in-EQ#.UGsP0E3A-kg

Areas on world map that shipped with Velious that have yet to be found/implimented:
Odus:
-Abysmal Sea
-The Vasty Deep
-The Barren Coast
-The Gulf of Uzun
-The Grand Plateau

Antonica:
-The Northlands
-The Hatchland
-The Nest
-Winters Deep
-Unkept Wood
-Lake Neriuss
-The Dead Hills
-The Buried Sea
-Broken Skull Rock
-Gulf of Gunthak

Faydwer:
-The Loping Plains
-Wyunder Lake
-Elizerain Lake
-Dragonscale Hills

Kunark:
-Vesker

Velious:
-none-

Originally posted by Nadia

General

• Profession bundle weapons (engineer kits, elementalist conjure skills, warrior banners) can now save their autoattack status.

Maybe Im being a dirty noob but what is this referring to? I don't really get what they mean by "saving thier autoattack status" (and for the record I have an 80 engineer and never had any issues with my kits except for their shitty scaling).

Originally posted by Stayonboard

• Profession bundle weapons (engineer kits, elementalist conjure skills, warrior banners) can now save their autoattack status.

 what is this referring to?

how it was explained on forums

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/professions/engineer/Engineer-Kits-Auto-attacks-Fixed

engineers weapon kits (like Flamethrower) used to not have an auto-attack set. You would have to manually spam the 1 key, or Ctrl + click on the first ability to toggle it, EVERY time you switched to a weapon kit.

That is now fixed and this removed a lot of the awkwardness engineers had to deal with.

Originally posted by Nadia

Originally posted by prpshrt

Idk about lotro but do you remember seeing outland, pandaria, northrend as part of the original map? I certainly do not. I'm not being impatient. I saw these regions in beta and expected them to be released given that I was required to have at least 25 GB of space. 

Everquest a mmo that released in 1999

had Serpents Spine on the original map -- a region that wasnt available until 7 years later

 

map of norrath

http://personalpages.manchester.ac.uk/staff/m.dodge/cybergeography/atlas/everquest_all_large.jpg

 

heres an old post from 2002 about Everquest

http://otherworlds31279.yuku.com/topic/960/Unknown-zones-in-EQ#.UGsP0E3A-kg

Areas on world map that shipped with Velious that have yet to be found/implimented:
Odus:
-Abysmal Sea
-The Vasty Deep
-The Barren Coast
-The Gulf of Uzun
-The Grand Plateau

Antonica:
-The Northlands
-The Hatchland
-The Nest
-Winters Deep
-Unkept Wood
-Lake Neriuss
-The Dead Hills
-The Buried Sea
-Broken Skull Rock
-Gulf of Gunthak

Faydwer:
-The Loping Plains
-Wyunder Lake
-Elizerain Lake
-Dragonscale Hills

Kunark:
-Vesker

Velious:
-none-

 

 

These were zones scrapped from their respective release, and then subsequently forgotten about. It was considered a "waste of resources" to go back and add them as they'd be well under the level 60 range, and most of Everquest is now about "End Game" shenanigans. Everyone rushes past 60+ nowadays, so adding in those zones would be a horrible waste of time unless they made them level 100 zones :).

Originally posted by SneakyRussian

These were zones scrapped from their respective release, and then subsequently forgotten about. It was considered a "waste of resources" to go back and add them as they'd be well under the level 60 range, and most of Everquest is now about "End Game" shenanigans. Everyone rushes past 60+ nowadays, so adding in those zones would be a horrible waste of time unless they made them level 100 zones :).

half of those zones were added after release,  the map never said what levels you need to be

Gunthak  -   added in LOY expansion (2003)

Loping Plains   (75 to 80 zone)  - added in Secrets of Faydwer expansion (2007)

1. The Ruins of Kunark (April 2000)
2. The Scars of Velious (December 2000)
3. The Shadows of Luclin (December 2001)
4. The Planes of Power (October 2002)
5. The Legacy of Ykesha (February 2003)
6. Lost Dungeons of Norrath (September 2003)
7. Gates of Discord (February 2004)
8. Omens of War (September 2004)
9. Dragons of Norrath (February 2005)
10. Depths of Darkhollow (September 2005)
11. Prophecy of Ro (February 2006)
12. The Serpent's Spine (September 2006)
13. The Buried Sea (February 2007)
14. Secrets of Faydwer (November 2007)
15. Seeds of Destruction (October 2008)
16. Underfoot (December 2009)
17. House of Thule (October 2010)
18. Veil of Alaris (November 2011)
19. Rain of Fear (Coming November 2012)

Originally posted by Nadia

Originally posted by Stayonboard

• Profession bundle weapons (engineer kits, elementalist conjure skills, warrior banners) can now save their autoattack status.

 what is this referring to?

how it was explained on forums

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/professions/engineer/Engineer-Kits-Auto-attacks-Fixed

 

engineers weapon kits (like Flamethrower) used to not have an auto-attack set. You would have to manually spam the 1 key, or Ctrl + click on the first ability to toggle it, EVERY time you switched to a weapon kit.

That is now fixed and this removed a lot of the awkwardness engineers had to deal with.

That's interesting - I guess this never really bugged me before :)  Im used to spamming the 1 key but I also normally use grenades which is ground targetting and not really an auto attack so I can appreciate how this would annoy others.

Regardless the patch notes look very good - really pleased with the direction this game is going. Can't wait to get home and play!

Originally posted by observer

Originally posted by prpshrt

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by prpshrt

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by prpshrt
Still waiting for the update that has: Second half of game now released. 

huh?

Ring of fire isles, magumma wastes, crystal desert, far shiverpeaks, magus falls, isle of janthir, woodland cascades... That stuff...

so because they have plenty of room for expansion the game is only half a game?... makes a lot of sense

I define an expansion as a whole new map. You know, like with cantha in factions and elona in nightfall? 

Huh. Apparently I've painted a target at the back of my head for trying to be honest.

So Lotro was a half finished game?  They didn't release with mines of moria, rohan, etc.  WoW was a half released game too?  They didn't release with Northrend, Outland, Pandaria..  Oh, let's not forget Swtor either, since they didn't release with all the planets and galaxies..

Sorry, but you weren't being honest, you were just expecting too much and being impatient.

No, vanilla WoW was clearly ony 1/5 of the game.  The other 80% came later.  The last 20% was just finished now, after 8 FREAKING YEARS.  Blizzard is slow as balls.  

You know that Tyria and Elona are the same continent, right?

And that the GW2 Kryta is only a small peninsula of the main continent?

GW2 number of zones has been set to 25 long before pre-purchase was announced.

This new complaint smells of "new attack of the week".

And yet a simple preview on auction is yet again not added?

Man do I really have to search on websites to see how x weapon/armour looks before buying it?

Originally posted by prpshrt
Still waiting for the update that has: Second half of game now released. 

Good :) let me know it to me too

Originally posted by Reizla

And still no word about minion AI for the necromancer >:( You don't wanna know how many times these minions just stand there when I'm attacking or how many times they're on a killing spree killing everything they see when I'm just walking around.

Necro minion AI sucks balls!

I agree. Nothing like fighting a veteran mob while your pet is checking out a nearby tree or rock. Necro pet AI needs fixed.

Originally posted by prpshrt

Originally posted by observer

Originally posted by prpshrt

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by prpshrt

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by prpshrt
Still waiting for the update that has: Second half of game now released. 

huh?

Ring of fire isles, magumma wastes, crystal desert, far shiverpeaks, magus falls, isle of janthir, woodland cascades... That stuff...

so because they have plenty of room for expansion the game is only half a game?... makes a lot of sense

I define an expansion as a whole new map. You know, like with cantha in factions and elona in nightfall? 

Huh. Apparently I've painted a target at the back of my head for trying to be honest.

So Lotro was a half finished game?  They didn't release with mines of moria, rohan, etc.  WoW was a half released game too?  They didn't release with Northrend, Outland, Pandaria..  Oh, let's not forget Swtor either, since they didn't release with all the planets and galaxies..

Sorry, but you weren't being honest, you were just expecting too much and being impatient.

Idk about lotro but do you remember seeing outland, pandaria, northrend as part of the original map? I certainly do not. I'm not being impatient. I saw these regions in beta and expected them to be released given that I was required to have at least 25 GB of space. I'm certainly not expecting too much given what I saw and read. PvE straight up ends with Orr and frost sound after you hit 80. For someone like me who doesn't give two craps about PvP this is disappointing. You could argue that WoW only had level 85 with the twilight place but they made up for it with HUGE lower level areas. I'm not defending WoW but seeing as you brought it in for comparison I will too. I powered through levels 1 - 80 by just being a casual player. If anything compare it to the content that GW1 had once you hit level 20.  I hope I've convinced you. If not you're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine. Good day. 

 If you were really casual about GW2 you would not have reached level 80 that fast.

The reason the map has places that are not yet available is the game GW1. That game established the map we play on. Would you expect them to alter the map that we all know exists in order to leave out places and make you happy?

Originally posted by observer

Originally posted by prpshrt

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by prpshrt

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by prpshrt
Still waiting for the update that has: Second half of game now released. 

huh?

Ring of fire isles, magumma wastes, crystal desert, far shiverpeaks, magus falls, isle of janthir, woodland cascades... That stuff...

so because they have plenty of room for expansion the game is only half a game?... makes a lot of sense

I define an expansion as a whole new map. You know, like with cantha in factions and elona in nightfall? 

Huh. Apparently I've painted a target at the back of my head for trying to be honest.

So Lotro was a half finished game?  They didn't release with mines of moria, rohan, etc.  WoW was a half released game too?  They didn't release with Northrend, Outland, Pandaria..  Oh, let's not forget Swtor either, since they didn't release with all the planets and galaxies..

Sorry, but you weren't being honest, you were just expecting too much and being impatient.

It's amazing how many trolls say they're just "being honest," when it's obvious to everyone that they're just trying to be a tool.  Not saying anyone in this thread is a troll, but just making an observation about gamer human nature.

Originally posted by Nadia

Originally posted by SneakyRussian

These were zones scrapped from their respective release, and then subsequently forgotten about. It was considered a "waste of resources" to go back and add them as they'd be well under the level 60 range, and most of Everquest is now about "End Game" shenanigans. Everyone rushes past 60+ nowadays, so adding in those zones would be a horrible waste of time unless they made them level 100 zones :).

half of those zones were added after release,  the map never said what levels you need to be

 

Gunthak  -   added in LOY expansion (2003)

Loping Plains   (75 to 80 zone)  - added in Secrets of Faydwer expansion (2007)

 

 

1. The Ruins of Kunark (April 2000)
2. The Scars of Velious (December 2000)
3. The Shadows of Luclin (December 2001)
4. The Planes of Power (October 2002)
5. The Legacy of Ykesha (February 2003)
6. Lost Dungeons of Norrath (September 2003)
7. Gates of Discord (February 2004)
8. Omens of War (September 2004)
9. Dragons of Norrath (February 2005)
10. Depths of Darkhollow (September 2005)
11. Prophecy of Ro (February 2006)
12. The Serpent's Spine (September 2006)
13. The Buried Sea (February 2007)
14. Secrets of Faydwer (November 2007)
15. Seeds of Destruction (October 2008)
16. Underfoot (December 2009)
17. House of Thule (October 2010)
18. Veil of Alaris (November 2011)
19. Rain of Fear (Coming November 2012)

Thank you.  Was hoping someone else did all that pesky research and linkage.  =)

Originally posted by Creslin321
Ah man, I wish you guys could have seen my phantasmal warden with phantasmal haste, time warp, and sharper images before this patch.  Literally a non-stop spinning whirlwind of death that absorbs projectiles and puts like 15 stacks of bleed on anything in melee range.

Haha! I ran w/ a couple mesmers doing that before the patch. Made dungeons like CM explorable rediculously easy. Literally made it impossible for the majority of mobs to even hurt us. We even had a few of the bosses completion shutdown the whole, because they couldn't get any attacks passed the wardens, lol. I think we had 5 wardens out at one time. Crazy stuff!