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  Kilawua

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OP  9/29/12 8:19:33 AM#1
I'm looking for a gaming desktop, I know I won't be able to get anything high end or whatever, but I'm looking for a medium computer than can play most games and has room for upgrades......If i ever learn how to do that. :P And my price range would be around 500-700 dollars. I've been looking at a few on Newegg and amazon, mostly from cyberpower, but they all have mixed reviews. So if anyone could help me that would be great! Thanks. ^_^
  ShakyMo

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9/29/12 8:23:18 AM#2
Build it yourself

Or ask someone who's good with computers to help you build one.

I don't know what its like in the usa, but here in the UK, pcs from high street retail chains are massively overpriced
  David_Lopan

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"There is no progress. Everything is the same as it was. Form changes. The essence does not." RLS

9/29/12 8:27:44 AM#3

Making one yourself can be fun, if you dont want to do that I suggest Newegg's http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229333.

 

You can upgrade the GPU down the road and the PSU if desired.

  jdnewell

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9/29/12 8:52:02 AM#4

You can build a decent desktop within your price range. Or buy the parts and pay someone at a local PC shop to spend an hour putting it together. I assume you would be able to load the OS and what not once the physical parts were put together?

If you take your time and shop for specials on Newegg.com, Tigerdirect.com, Amazon, ect over a few weeks you can get many PC components on a 24-48 sale. Example I bought another samsung 830 SSD ( 120G) for $89 and free shipping at Newegg a few weeks ago, they had a 24 hour special going.

If your on a limited budget and want the most for your money then take a month, shop and buy stuff on sale, once you get everything build it ( or have it built) and prosper.

If you must have it now and buy from Cyberpower, Ibuypower, ect a budget desktop. Then you will get exactly that, a budget desktop.

I can put together a real decent gaming PC for $800 or less on newegg right now, including OS. That will blow cyberpower out of the water when it comes to reliable, good components.

Either way I hope it works out for you =)

If you decide to build / buy parts. Post your stated budget and folks will help you pick parts within that budget.

 

Good luck

  zevni78

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9/29/12 8:55:35 AM#5

I recomend the HAL 9000, they have never be known to make a mistake, and enjoy playing games with humans.

  Quizzical

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9/29/12 11:31:24 AM#6

On your budget, you want an AMD Trinity based rig.  That launches next Tuesday, so I'd recommend waiting for it.

In the meantime, can you assemble parts yourself or would you need to pay someone else to do so for you?  If the latter, then assume that that will eat up around $100 of your budget.  All you need is a screwdriver, and if you haven't done it before, then it's easier than you probably think.  It's not really any harder to plug things into SATA ports and memory slots inside the case than ethernet ports and USB ports outside of the case--and you'll need to do the latter even if you buy a prebuilt computer, unless you also hire someone to come to your house and plug it in.

  Kilawua

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OP  9/29/12 12:15:48 PM#7

I really can't build one myself. :/ I know close to nothing about computers. I know buying one from a company is a sin to you guys, but I think it would be better for the first time. :P I was thinking about this one, which was advised:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229333

And also these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227408

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229285

http://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-Gamer-Xtreme-GXi290-Desktop/dp/B008ABKW2C/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1348938757&sr=1-5&keywords=cyberpower

http://www.amazon.com/iBuyPower-Gamer-Power-AM522D3-Desktop/dp/B006O5ZJJ2/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1348938757&sr=1-2&keywords=cyberpower

I know they're all similar, but I wanted to know if anything bad or good about them stood out to you guys. Thanks again. :)

  Matticus75

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9/29/12 12:24:22 PM#8
  Matticus75

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9/29/12 12:27:01 PM#9
Originally posted by zevni78

I recomend the HAL 9000, they have never be known to make a mistake, and enjoy playing games with humans.

WOPR FTW!

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WOPR

and steven hawings saying "would you like to play a game" lmao

  imp0

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9/29/12 12:28:19 PM#10
if you are a hardcore gamer, you'd buy an alienware.
  Jonoku

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9/29/12 12:29:06 PM#11
Originally posted by imp0
if you are a hardcore gamer, you'd buy an alienware.

Either sterotypical or trololololol :)

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  Quizzical

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9/29/12 12:32:51 PM#12

Do not buy a pre-built computer at all.  Ever.  Unless you live in a very small market with very few options (say, a country that most people in the world haven't heard of, and no option to buy things from a foreing supplier), in which case you can probably still get around it.

If you can't build your own, then the next best thing is getting one built to order from a site that lets you pick the parts.  That will let you get a computer configured properly.  Buying a prebuilt computer from a site like New Egg or Amazon rarely will.

But again, anything you could buy today on your budget would be obsolete next Tuesday.  So you really should wait three days.

The one thing that the computers you link all have in common is a cheap junk power supply.  So if you want the computer to have any semblance of reliability, you're looking at having to replace the power supply yourself as soon as it arrives.  If you can do that, then you really should just build your own.  They probably also all have ultra low-end motherboards, but three of them don't say what they have.

Your first, third, and fifth links all have a Radeon HD 6670, which is basically the slowest you can go and call it a budget gaming card.  The fourth has a GeForce GT 620, which is substantially worse.

The second link is a different class of product entirely.  Its Radeon HD 6870 is somewhat dated, but still a respectable gaming card.  It also has an eight core processor.  But eight slower cores rather than four faster cores only works well in things that can scale to many cores.  And with a truly ancient chipset, I wouldn't be surprised if processor and/or don't perform properly.

The fourth computer also has a low-voltage processor, where the basic idea is that you pay Intel extra to bin out the parts that can run at reduced voltages and clock speeds.  That means you pay extra for less performance, but get less power consumption in return.  And then they pair that with the least energy-efficient video card they can find, which completely defeats the point of paying extra for energy efficiency on the processor.

  Quizzical

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9/29/12 12:33:51 PM#13
Originally posted by imp0
if you are a hardcore Dell fanboy, you'd buy an alienware.

Fixed that for you.  Speaking of which, does Dell have any fanboys?

  jpnole

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9/29/12 1:42:33 PM#14
Originally posted by Kilawua
I'm looking for a gaming desktop, I know I won't be able to get anything high end or whatever, but I'm looking for a medium computer than can play most games and has room for upgrades......If i ever learn how to do that. :P And my price range would be around 500-700 dollars. I've been looking at a few on Newegg and amazon, mostly from cyberpower, but they all have mixed reviews. So if anyone could help me that would be great! Thanks. ^_^

If you are dead set against building it and all of the pre built computers in your price range suck, consider going on craigslist.

Where I live in Florida, people are always unloading their old gaming rigs for VERY cheap. Sometimes, though not always, you can get a PC less than a year old with a fast GPU in it already. You have to know your parts though.

 

But seriously, you should buy the parts and have someone build it. I watched my father build my first custom PC and I've built mine ever since. You must have a freind or family member that could do it for you. If you buy a pre built PC in your price range, expect to have to upgrade the PSU & GPU at minimum.

  Kilawua

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OP  9/29/12 1:53:00 PM#15
Would their be a computer with an AMD Trinity in my price range on Tuesday? And also, is there any site that like you said, would assemble the parts I want into a computer? Because I really wouldn't be able to do it. And I don't know anyone that can. :( And one more thing. :P If you had to pick one of those computers, or a totally different one in my price range, which would it be? Thanks. ^^
  jpnole

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9/29/12 1:57:52 PM#16
Originally posted by Kilawua
Would their be a computer with an AMD Trinity in my price range on Tuesday? And also, is there any site that like you said, would assemble the parts I want into a computer? Because I really wouldn't be able to do it. And I don't know anyone that can. :( And one more thing. :P If you had to pick one of those computers, or a totally different one in my price range, which would it be? Thanks. ^^

There will most certainly not be a pre built PC with Trinity parts on Tuesday but not too long after there might be on Ibuypower or Cyber Power, etc.

I would not buy any of the PCs you linked. I would save my money and wait until I had enough to buy a PC worth gaming on. While were at it, list the specs of the PC you are using now. You might be a couple upgrades from a respectable PC now?

  Kilawua

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OP  9/29/12 2:02:16 PM#17
I don't have an upgradable computer at the moment. I've been using a laptop which used to run games decently, but is starting it give out with all the dust and everything in it. So i was looking for a decent desktop to maybe upgrade eventually. I can't buy one of the ones I listed and upgrade that? Could I put the AMD Trinity in it?
  jpnole

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9/29/12 2:05:53 PM#18
Originally posted by Kilawua
I don't have an upgradable computer at the moment. I've been using a laptop which used to run games decently, but is starting it give out with all the dust and everything in it. So i was looking for a decent desktop to maybe upgrade eventually. I can't buy one of the ones I listed and upgrade that? Could I put the AMD Trinity in it?

You could do that, but you are better off spending more to get what you want up front rather than immediately throwing out parts and upgrading. Let me take another look at your links.

  Kilawua

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OP  9/29/12 2:07:53 PM#19
Well I mainly would like to play GW2, Torchlight 2, TF2, and maybe some half-life mods. You think I could play those with one of the pre-builts?
  jpnole

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9/29/12 2:09:41 PM#20

This is the best of the ones you linked. The rest have really crappy graphics cards. If you are really in the position of not knowing any builders, than I take back what I said - get this one that you linked with the 6850. For $660, free 3 day shipping and no tax outisde of CA, it's actually quite a good deal. I play with 2 6850s and it chews through most games on high settings:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227408&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=4176333&SID=j4s5e7u2x5u4

 

You will easily be able to play all the games you mentioned with this one. The motherboard has one PCI-E lane so you will not be able to crossfire. Not a big deal for the price though.

 

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