Did you seriously just try to white knight after opening by insulting the person? I get that he did the same to you, but it's not a great way to show intelligence. But more than that, you try to champion not using the TP. He's not talking about playing it like stocks, he's saying to actually bother selling things. I've never been rich in this game, but so long as I farm a good majority of what I need for crafting, I come out with money still intact. 

Legendary weapons have many exotic items that are comparable to the legendaries, the only reason to have a legendary weapon is for "leet gear." Otherwise, I genuinely don't agree with your opinion, plain and simple.

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Originally posted by Sylvarii

Originally posted by Eir_S

Originally posted by grimal

I laughed out loud to your response.

The game definitely has starch defenders, I will say that.

That's STAUNCH defenders.  

As for the OP, good... maybe now you'll stop making these threads complaining instead of just playing somethng you enjoy.

As for you,no one forces you to read these threads,why wouldl it bother you what the OP is saying,aint you meant to be having tons of fun playing GW2,i don't think you like the game as much as you claim.

 

Nice try, my gaming pc is down.  I stand by what I said.

It is funny that people come into Review and Impressions section to moan about negativity and tell OP to stop making topics likes these. yeah right.

Some of you guys spend way too much time defending GW2 i wonder when do you even play? i am on my way to second LVL 80 now. Love the game despite its issues but can't say the same for the fan base. Way too obnoxious.

Originally posted by camia

Originally posted by halflife25

It is funny that people come into Review and Impressions section to moan about negativity and tell OP to stop making topics likes these. yeah right.

Some of you guys spend way too much time defending GW2 i wonder when do you even play? i am on my way to second LVL 80 now. Love the game despite its issues but can't say the same for the fan base. Way too obnoxious.

Some people look at the most recently commented-on section and see stupidity like this. People are just as permitted to complain about idiotic complaints as people are to make them. It's funny how you can't see that, but instead complain  about opinions.

In a similar vein, some people don't marathon through games, and I'm sorry that your wow-addled mind can't seem to grasp that.

I'm pretty much done with people like you who attack anyone who tries to defend a game being unwarrantly attacked.

Ehh? marathon? so now you are upset because after first month i am able to take another character to level 80? considering leveling is fast and easy by design.

Very weak attempt to flame me dude. Your post would make more sense if i leveled two 80's say in a week. It took me one whole month to get my first 80.

But yeah thanks for proving my point about obnoxious fan base. There is difference bteween complaining and telling OP to stop posting. If it bothers you so much why even come into specific section of forums which is meant for giving reviews?

I don't think you are pretty much done, and posting on sock puppet accounts? not cool dude.

But then again i don't give much credit to people who try to inject 'wow' as an insult wherever they can.

Originally posted by halflife25

Originally posted by camia

Originally posted by halflife25

It is funny that people come into Review and Impressions section to moan about negativity and tell OP to stop making topics likes these. yeah right.

Some of you guys spend way too much time defending GW2 i wonder when do you even play? i am on my way to second LVL 80 now. Love the game despite its issues but can't say the same for the fan base. Way too obnoxious.

Some people look at the most recently commented-on section and see stupidity like this. People are just as permitted to complain about idiotic complaints as people are to make them. It's funny how you can't see that, but instead complain  about opinions.

In a similar vein, some people don't marathon through games, and I'm sorry that your wow-addled mind can't seem to grasp that.

I'm pretty much done with people like you who attack anyone who tries to defend a game being unwarrantly attacked.

Ehh? marathon? so now you are upset because after first month i am able to take another character to level 80? considering leveling is fast and easy by design.

Very weak attempt to flame me dude. Your post would make more sense if i leveled two 80's say in a week. It took me one whole month to get my first 80.

But yeah thanks for proving my point about obnoxious fan base. There is difference bteween complaining and telling OP to stop posting. If it bothers you so much why even come into specific section of forums which is meant for giving reviews?

I don't think you are pretty much done, and posting on sock puppet accounts? not cool dude.

But then again i don't give much credit to people who try to inject 'wow' as an insult wherever they can.

Did you even check when this account was made to see if it was slightly likely that this was a sock puppet acount before the baseless claim? Good try though, other than that it's easy to access information.

If you're relatively done with the content of an MMO within a month, I would definitely say you're marathoning. I'm level 61 after a month of playing because I spent time playing classes to a decent level first to decide if I liked that playstyle, instead of forcing myself through something. 

It wasn't an attempt to flame you, it was just to say that you and the op have both said laughable things (and this post doesn't help your case).

Originally posted by camia

 

I'm pretty much done with people like you who attack anyone who tries to defend a game being unwarrantly attacked.

Oh the Irony! 

Yea while there were some bad decisions taken while development, the game sure does look good. Except for the charr running animation, that animation SUCKS, in "MY" humble opinion! 

EDIT:

Originally posted by camia

 

If you're relatively done with the content of an MMO within a month, I would definitely say you're marathoning. I'm level 61 after a month of playing because I spent time playing classes to a decent level first to decide if I liked that playstyle, instead of forcing myself through something. 

So basically he is 'not playing it right', yea?

Originally posted by camia

Originally posted by halflife25

Originally posted by camia

Originally posted by halflife25

It is funny that people come into Review and Impressions section to moan about negativity and tell OP to stop making topics likes these. yeah right.

Some of you guys spend way too much time defending GW2 i wonder when do you even play? i am on my way to second LVL 80 now. Love the game despite its issues but can't say the same for the fan base. Way too obnoxious.

Some people look at the most recently commented-on section and see stupidity like this. People are just as permitted to complain about idiotic complaints as people are to make them. It's funny how you can't see that, but instead complain  about opinions.

In a similar vein, some people don't marathon through games, and I'm sorry that your wow-addled mind can't seem to grasp that.

I'm pretty much done with people like you who attack anyone who tries to defend a game being unwarrantly attacked.

Ehh? marathon? so now you are upset because after first month i am able to take another character to level 80? considering leveling is fast and easy by design.

Very weak attempt to flame me dude. Your post would make more sense if i leveled two 80's say in a week. It took me one whole month to get my first 80.

But yeah thanks for proving my point about obnoxious fan base. There is difference bteween complaining and telling OP to stop posting. If it bothers you so much why even come into specific section of forums which is meant for giving reviews?

I don't think you are pretty much done, and posting on sock puppet accounts? not cool dude.

But then again i don't give much credit to people who try to inject 'wow' as an insult wherever they can.

Did you even check when this account was made to see if it was slightly likely that this was a sock puppet acount before the baseless claim? Good try though, other than that it's easy to access information.

If you're relatively done with the content of an MMO within a month, I would definitely say you're marathoning. I'm level 61 after a month of playing because I spent time playing classes to a decent level first to decide if I liked that playstyle, instead of forcing myself through something. 

It wasn't an attempt to flame you, it was just to say that you and the op have both said laughable things (and this post doesn't help your case).

Yeah because sock puppet accounts are only valid if made in 2012. 

Secondly, where did i say i am done with content? care to show me?. because i re read what i wrote and no where i mentioned that i completed all the content. All i said was that i love the game despite the issues and on my way to second level 80. So ofcourse i enjoy the game that i want to level another character to 80.

Laughable indeed. How about this. Read properly next time before you want to argue just for argument sake? the leveling curve in GW2 is such that crafting, W v W along with DE's and exploring will easily get you to level 80. And no i didn't have any alts. I like to stick to one character at a time. Want me to apologise for finding the class i enjoyed from the get go?

Originally posted by camia

Originally posted by halflife25

Originally posted by camia

Originally posted by halflife25

It is funny that people come into Review and Impressions section to moan about negativity and tell OP to stop making topics likes these. yeah right.

Some of you guys spend way too much time defending GW2 i wonder when do you even play? i am on my way to second LVL 80 now. Love the game despite its issues but can't say the same for the fan base. Way too obnoxious.

Some people look at the most recently commented-on section and see stupidity like this. People are just as permitted to complain about idiotic complaints as people are to make them. It's funny how you can't see that, but instead complain  about opinions.

In a similar vein, some people don't marathon through games, and I'm sorry that your wow-addled mind can't seem to grasp that.

I'm pretty much done with people like you who attack anyone who tries to defend a game being unwarrantly attacked.

Ehh? marathon? so now you are upset because after first month i am able to take another character to level 80? considering leveling is fast and easy by design.

Very weak attempt to flame me dude. Your post would make more sense if i leveled two 80's say in a week. It took me one whole month to get my first 80.

But yeah thanks for proving my point about obnoxious fan base. There is difference bteween complaining and telling OP to stop posting. If it bothers you so much why even come into specific section of forums which is meant for giving reviews?

I don't think you are pretty much done, and posting on sock puppet accounts? not cool dude.

But then again i don't give much credit to people who try to inject 'wow' as an insult wherever they can.

Did you even check when this account was made to see if it was slightly likely that this was a sock puppet acount before the baseless claim? Good try though, other than that it's easy to access information.

If you're relatively done with the content of an MMO within a month, I would definitely say you're marathoning. I'm level 61 after a month of playing because I spent time playing classes to a decent level first to decide if I liked that playstyle, instead of forcing myself through something. 

It wasn't an attempt to flame you, it was just to say that you and the op have both said laughable things (and this post doesn't help your case).

You're not at cap level yet because you couldn't  settle on one class yet you have one at 61? You don't consider that marathoning?

My highest is 26...after a month. Just to put things in perspective. See? To me you marathoned even though you may not have. It's all perspective.

And you're being holier-than-thou against someone who did settle on one class and experienced more of the content?

I love the GW2 community. They're winners.

After reading a few posts I just sat with my head in my hands. Anet has some tweaking to aspects of the game. Respawn rates and enemy densisty in zones will be adjusted as the game settles and player bases spread out through out the game. I remember in a few other MMOs the enemy spawn rates were scewed until things settled after launch.

As far as the whole trinity and game play being bad.... it just goes to show how many people have been craddled like little babies for too long. Button mashing endless rotations with little plaining on ability usage for too long leads to bad habits of game play. GW2 gives players a chance to better control their gameplay and this gamer is excited about it. This is not a game where you go from 1-30 or higher without dying a few times AND dying a few times in a dungeon is NOT a failed group or over powered enemies. It is a challenging game that makes me want to get better at my evassive abilities and learn to do better next time. Many classes especially the guardian can be a great support healer if traited and played right. Before writing off the game as bad design take more than a few weeks of game play to try out the different trait and stat options for better configurations in group play. You might realize how versatile the game can be.

For many we have been handed such an easy game play formula for so long that when something challenging and different comes along you'd rather run back to candyland.

Originally posted by Connmacart

Originally posted by thexrated

Originally posted by eggy08

The only lack in social interaction is the lack of effort that people put into it themselves.

Shifting the blame. It is a design decision. In games, just like in real life, people need reasons to socialise, group and network. Society is based on the fact that we can achieve more together than alone.

If you go to a bar and just sit there drinking quietly and afterwards complain no one talked to you. That doesn't mean the place isn't social. In games just as in real life you need to put in effort to socialize it does not happen on its own. So stop shifting the problem to the game.

But that is not what GW2 feels like to me. It feels more like going into a bar, trying to talk to people, and have them give as short a response as possible to answer your question before turning and walking away. In my experience, people in GW2 overall do not *want* to socialize or interact. They are too busy tearing off after the next DE or map point of interest etc.  The game does not require interaction on that level, and many people, again in my experience, do not bother with it.

Originally posted by Hrimnir

Either way all i can be is happy as hell that storm legion is coming out soon.

It took me till the last line to realize why he thought all these things were bad lol.  Yes if what your looking for is more WoW clones don't play GW2 it is designed for people who don't want to play games like Rift or WoW or Aion.  Also Orichalchum ore is like 2-3 silver a piece not for 3 of them and while i respect your oppinion GW2 is the only game i have ever heard of where casaul players can make enough money for everything they need.  In most games to be a halfway decent player you have to farm dungeons to sell loot on extreemly low drop rates or your so poor you can afford anything.  In GW2 you really can do everything yourself. If your dieing too much try a different weapon combo or a different trait spec.  This game is very play style dependant so if you play a certain way different specs will work better for you.  

Fundementally it comes back to one point.  Anyone whose attitude is i play a game to reach max level and then run a couple of raids should not play this game.  That is not what it is about  The end game is playing the game its not an old school RPG where your goal is to be the biggest badass in the room becuase you have farmed more of this or that.  That was evident from the start when they choose to make names not show in WvW. 

Originally posted by Hrimnir

Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter

Pro tip:

Orr is not solo friendly.

If you dying anywhere else well..

 

Now I'm waiting for the posts stating GW2 PvE is easy, waypoints make the world so small ans the game hand held you at every step.

And it is not botters - it is the difference between a TP of about 2 million vs a trade post of tens of thousands.

On the plus side equipment is cheap.

And going to a city is free. Returning not so much.

You would have a valid point except that your SOLO storyline quest makes you travel through supposedly not intended for solo areas.  Personally i call bullshit, i think they just screwed the pooch.

As for GW2 PVE, it is easy.  There is a difference between cheap and difficult.  Putting 9 million mobs in a zone and having them respawn 5 seconds after you kill them is cheap.  Hvaing little stalk things scattered around that fire a 1000 round per minute barrage of projectiles that kill you in under 1 second, is cheap.  i could go on but you get my point.  Or you dont, whatever /shrug

The DE go right by every story quest so if you follow the Zergs its easy.  I didnt do the second and third zones of orr till i was 80 by which point i could solo the zones np even the veterans.  People fail to realize that there are so many ways to level unlike most games.  In most games crafting gives you shit xp, not in GW2, and WvW is great xp as well.  Also personal story quests can be done in groups so if your having trouble get a friend.  GW2 is a social game.  They did a good job of making it so that you never have to say LFG to do standard PVE because of the way the downed system works people will work together when near each other automatically, btu nothing in the game says you can't go out and get a group.

Originally posted by Xepo

After reading a few posts I just sat with my head in my hands. Anet has some tweaking to aspects of the game. Respawn rates and enemy densisty in zones will be adjusted as the game settles and player bases spread out through out the game. I remember in a few other MMOs the enemy spawn rates were scewed until things settled after launch.

 

As far as the whole trinity and game play being bad.... it just goes to show how many people have been craddled like little babies for too long. Button mashing endless rotations with little plaining on ability usage for too long leads to bad habits of game play. GW2 gives players a chance to better control their gameplay and this gamer is excited about it. This is not a game where you go from 1-30 or higher without dying a few times AND dying a few times in a dungeon is NOT a failed group or over powered enemies. It is a challenging game that makes me want to get better at my evassive abilities and learn to do better next time. Many classes especially the guardian can be a great support healer if traited and played right. Before writing off the game as bad design take more than a few weeks of game play to try out the different trait and stat options for better configurations in group play. You might realize how versatile the game can be.

 

For many we have been handed such an easy game play formula for so long that when something challenging and different comes along you'd rather run back to candyland.

So endlessly button mashing dodge and CC abilities is better why?

People are used to the carrot on the stick approach.

I left games because it focused on "progression" to much (WoW, Swtor, etc).

People are having a hard time coming out of the box they've lived in for the last 10 years.  MMOs have all tried to be like WoW, one way or another.  When a game comes along and makes EVERYONE EQUAL where fun and skill are the basis for competition, instead of gear grinds, people can't handle the freedom.

If you want a more structured game with hard set rules, progression, and carrots on sticks.... 99% of the market will offer it to you.   For me, I like not having to play GW2 for 3 months, come back, and feel that I'm still on equal footing as everyone else.

BTW - those of you saying Guild Wars 2 has simple combat is just flat out false.  Gw2 classes have more customization and variety than most other games combined.

Originally posted by Hrimnir

 

 

Originally posted by aesperus
**snip** response #1

Well, once again it appears im going to have to draw the picture and actually color it, since the level of reading comprehension and ability to discern underlying meaning in a sentence has apparently gone the way of the dodo.

The point is not that the system is broken, its that IT SUCKS.  Its exactly like you said, you have to be responsible for yourself.  Now that would be fine, except that in dungeons the boss mobs can quite easily 2 shot you.  So despite player skill you will invariably get situations where you're up shit creek without a paddle.  Last night i did story mode arah and the bits on the air ships was basically death a thon since half the area would get carpetted by bombs that knocked you over and then you get swarmed by mobs.

Now, ive played tanks in every MMO except WOW starting with EQ1, so please, don't talk to me about personal responsibility.  You can keep trying to imply things about me but it doesnt make them true, it just makes you look like a presumptive douche.

**snip** response #2

So, basically you're saying that the "normal" way to play an MMO is to game the auction house? You are correct, i am aware of it, and no i don't do it due to a personal choice.  I'm not the type of guy who likes to get ahead in life by stepping on the backs of others.  Clearly you dont have an issue with that.

As for "using these services far in excess of what they're intended", uhm, bullshit.  Once again ill spell it out for you. When 1 death means 1.5s worth of repair costs and 1.5-2s worth of port costs, and the average event which can take 5-10min or longer only rewards less than 2s.  The issue is not frequency of use, its the overall base costs vs rewards for pve content.  It just doesnt scale properly at the higher levels. Your costs go up but your income doesn go up accordingly.

Ive never had any game where i've seen repeated discussions in /ooc (or /map for this game) about how people were sick of feeling like they are constantly on the verge of or are actually broke.  Yes, if you dont craft and sell all your mats, then you can come out ahead, but its not on the order that i should be.  In roughly 5 hours of playing today i made a little over 1g, and that included finding 5 of 6 orichalcum nodes, etc.

**snip** response #3

Not required huh?  Where else do you get legendary weapons?  Oh, thats right, nowhere except the mystic forge.  Sounds pretty required to me. The other point is i shouldnt have to use google to figure things like that out.  The problem is they provide literally no way in game to discover things other than trial and error.  Even back in the days of EQ before websites existed that told you how to do quests and things, they actually put things in the quest text or gave you clues along the way so you could actually figure it out of your own accord IN GAME.  Apparently anet is so lazy they just decided to use the fact that they knew people would google after the harder core fanboys figured stuff out through trial and error and posted it on the internet.

**snip*** response #4

You really are just trying way too hard to sound like you passively don't really care, but man you just felt obligated to post.  When you read something with a pre bias and respond to issues that werent even brought up its called a straw man. Read through the actual thread and you will see there are people on both sides who clearly understood my points and either agreed or disagreed. 

Its not an issue of whats right or whats wrong.  Its an issue of, MY OPINION of the systems in the game is that they are stupid and fail at a basic level.  It doesnt mean i dont understand how they work, or not know how to properly utilize them.  I know it probably makes you feel like your smart to denigrate me and imply that i somehow "dont understand" but it simply isnt the case.

You can put the crayons away and have an adult conversation. It's fine.

1) If your issue isn't with the system being broken, then don't lead your opening post with a paragraph talking about how it doesn't work. "The whole grouping dynamic in this game is just quirky and retarded and doesn't work for shit". Your words, not mine. Whatever your experience with a trinity system is kind of irrelevant, when talking about how this system plays differently. I know that typically being a main tank in a raiding guild gives you a lot status, but that doesn't really matter when we're talking about a system in which everyone is responsible for themselves. Most bosses will only 2shot you if you go into a dungeon with no health. That's mistake #1 in which most people make. You can't go into a dungeon with 5k hp, when most players are rolling with 10k+, and not expect to have issues with dying. You can still cover for your teamm8s, but it's done much more actively now, as opposed to through some arbitrary 'taunt' mechanic. You have skills that completely negate damage: blocks, blinds, reflections, evasion, invulnerable. They are there for a reason.

2) I never said that the "normal" way of making money was via the auction house. In fact I specifically described things in reference to not using it. Please don't put words in my mouth. It's merely a system that exists, and one that can be used to profit quite a lot with some basic math & observation. As I mentioned in my last post, it's also not a requirement to make money in the game. It's simply one very useful option you can choose to use or not.

- Again, back to my original post. You can make back your repair costs (at lvl 80 with full exotics) by doing 1 event alone, and you will come out w/ more money than you started with. If you think doing 1-5minutes of content to pay for a few repair bills is too much, then my god what MMOs have you been playing? I've been playing since the days of EQ, and few MMOs ever hand out money as easily as this one does. Money only becomes an issue if you are dying repeatedly, all the time, and doing nothing to earn it back. Or if you are constantly waypointing across the world via paid waypoints (which can cost as much as ~5s at 80) without doing anything to earn your money back. Either way, it all comes back to you needing to do something to earn that money back. It's not even hard, it takes 1-5minutes of your time to come back w/ more money than you started with. Or you could do some of the more challenging content and come out w/ even larger chunks of cash. High lvl events yield 5-10silver, and drop A LOT of items you can sell for money. Couple that w/ there being very few things you need to actually spend money on in the game, and there really isn't much of an issue. What this really comes down to is how often you are dying, and why?

3) No, they aren't required. You seem to be forgetting that this game isn't very heavily focused on gear. Legendary gear is mostly cosmetic, and you can easily obtain exotics for a small fraction of what it costs to make a legendary. You can clear the hardest content in the game w/ blue gear, your stats get scaled in WvW, and you don't need anything to have evenly powered gear in sPvP. People get legendaries for the skin. There is no power advantage. Thus, I don't see how they are 'required' by any stretch of the word. The simple fact that barely anyone has legendaries atm should make this pretty obvious.

Some things in the game are told to you, but yes, they want you to figure some things out on your own. The horror.

4) Thanks for the label. I love how you seem to know my inner most thoughts. That must be a very useful gift. And thanks for repeatedly suggesting I should 'read more', and then following it up with a complete lack of comprehension towards my original post. I read your OP. I read your reply. I suggest you carefully read mine. The only reason I didn't quote the whole thing is because it would be a massive wall of text.

I don't care whether or not you view me as having some pre-bias, but I can tell you right now that you are projecting w/ each paragraph. Like I said in my earlier post, I don't care if you dislike the game or not, but your reasonings are very flawed. I even reiterated as to why. It's your choice whether you want to listen or not. Most of your opinions (as I've seen others point out in this thread) come from you treating this game like something it's not. You are very much looking at it from an EQ / WoW mindset, and then blaming the game for having different mechanics. The whole appeal of GW2 is that it promised to break away from those mechanics and try something new.

If you are going to respond, than I'd suggest not doing it w/ some pre-conceived notion as to what my intent is, or what you think I sound like.

Oh, and btw, that's not what a strawman is.

Originally posted by ZizouX

People are used to the carrot on the stick approach.

I left games because it focused on "progression" to much (WoW, Swtor, etc).

People are having a hard time coming out of the box they've lived in for the last 10 years.  MMOs have all tried to be like WoW, one way or another.  When a game comes along and makes EVERYONE EQUAL where fun and skill are the basis for competition, instead of gear grinds, people can't handle the freedom.

If you want a more structured game with hard set rules, progression, and carrots on sticks.... 99% of the market will offer it to you.   For me, I like not having to play GW2 for 3 months, come back, and feel that I'm still on equal footing as everyone else.

BTW - those of you saying Guild Wars 2 has simple combat is just flat out false.  Gw2 classes have more customization and variety than most other games combined.

This is something I constantly see both ingame and on forums.

Part of what GW2 suffers from is that it's caught in between a game that doesn't want to focus on linear progression, and a game that is forced to cater to that mindset in order to have a decent amount of players.

Many people (including the OP) still try and play this game like it's WoW, inspite being told repeatedly why that doesn't work. I still see many groups trying to play the game like a trinity. Expecting someone to tank for everyone else, and suggestion that 'healing' is needed for some bs reason or another.

You also see this when it comes to gear. People still think they need full exotics to be valid in this game. However the math shows that the different between a blue weapon & an exotic of the same lvl is only about 10%. The majority of your power comes from your skills, traits, runes/sigils, and how you use them.

The sooner people start seeing the game for what it is, the sooner they can appreciate it and start focusing on real issues (like fixing the Zaitan fight, WvW imbalances, token costs, etc.)

Originally posted by aesperus

This is something I constantly see both ingame and on forums.

Part of what GW2 suffers from is that it's caught in between a game that doesn't want to focus on linear progression, and a game that is forced to cater to that mindset in order to have a decent amount of players.

Many people (including the OP) still try and play this game like it's WoW, inspite being told repeatedly why that doesn't work. I still see many groups trying to play the game like a trinity. Expecting someone to tank for everyone else, and suggestion that 'healing' is needed for some bs reason or another.

You also see this when it comes to gear. People still think they need full exotics to be valid in this game. However the math shows that the different between a blue weapon & an exotic of the same lvl is only about 10%. The majority of your power comes from your skills, traits, runes/sigils, and how you use them.

The sooner people start seeing the game for what it is, the sooner they can appreciate it and start focusing on real issues (like fixing the Zaitan fight, WvW imbalances, token costs, etc.)

So.....he's playing it wrong(tm)?

Originally posted by Connmacart

Originally posted by thexrated

Originally posted by eggy08

The only lack in social interaction is the lack of effort that people put into it themselves.

Shifting the blame. It is a design decision. In games, just like in real life, people need reasons to socialise, group and network. Society is based on the fact that we can achieve more together than alone.

If you go to a bar and just sit there drinking quietly and afterwards complain no one talked to you. That doesn't mean the place isn't social. In games just as in real life you need to put in effort to socialize it does not happen on its own. So stop shifting the problem to the game.

 Thank you Connmacart.

Originally posted by grimal

Originally posted by aesperus

This is something I constantly see both ingame and on forums.

Part of what GW2 suffers from is that it's caught in between a game that doesn't want to focus on linear progression, and a game that is forced to cater to that mindset in order to have a decent amount of players.

Many people (including the OP) still try and play this game like it's WoW, inspite being told repeatedly why that doesn't work. I still see many groups trying to play the game like a trinity. Expecting someone to tank for everyone else, and suggestion that 'healing' is needed for some bs reason or another.

You also see this when it comes to gear. People still think they need full exotics to be valid in this game. However the math shows that the different between a blue weapon & an exotic of the same lvl is only about 10%. The majority of your power comes from your skills, traits, runes/sigils, and how you use them.

The sooner people start seeing the game for what it is, the sooner they can appreciate it and start focusing on real issues (like fixing the Zaitan fight, WvW imbalances, token costs, etc.)

So.....he's playing it wrong(tm)?

heh well lets put it this way say I bought a Rainbow Six game and got pissed and bitched up and down I couldn't just run in guns blazing like CoD. Both are shooters so you should be able to play them exactly the same and get the best experience from it right?